Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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Nothing weird about it tbh.

pomenitul, Thursday, 5 September 2019 09:29 (one month ago) link

I haven't listened to Art Angels in a while, but on first listen one of the melodies feels lifted from one of those songs.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 5 September 2019 11:49 (one month ago) link

i think it's just a very typically grimes melody, the sort that was all over art angels. that's not a bad thing at all, i just wish the backing was better (and i'm largely blaming her choice of collaborator, i_o, for this since his solo work sounds very similarly bland from the little i listened)

ufo, Thursday, 5 September 2019 12:00 (one month ago) link

improving production at the cost of distinctiveness is a story as old as production itself

this all has a certain “jokers trick” aspect to it ...

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 5 September 2019 13:36 (one month ago) link

"my goal is to make climate change fun (lol..??)" - joker

ufo, Thursday, 5 September 2019 13:40 (one month ago) link

tangentially, I did end up seeing the Grimes-boosted Nicole Dollanganger last week and it was a pretty good show!

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 5 September 2019 14:04 (one month ago) link

this is decent but definitely more in the realm of grimes music that poppy et al. have moved into while she was between albums, and thus sounds less exciting

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 5 September 2019 14:22 (one month ago) link

I mean it's weird because supposedly the more you master something the more 'freely' you can push the limit of your knowledge. I mean Picasso had to learn and master how to paint properly first before he evolved it into his own style. According to her Visions was created in Garageband in a week since she couldn't leave her home due to a fever. Even with the rushed job and some of the presets she used it probably is her most creative and unique sounding album.

That said, I didn't know who i_o was or that he was a co-producer in this one, and apparently he is an edm producer which is a red flag in itself, so I'll also send blame of the genericness of this one his way. Is there a genre more generic than EDM in the past decade? I think that might be one of the few genres where it's extremely difficult to tell an artists production work one from another.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:12 (one month ago) link

it's also the difference between working on an album for 2 weeks and working on an album for 2 years

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:28 (one month ago) link

But also every producer knows that you get the most interesting results out of a piece of gear the first time you use it, when you're exciting and don't really know what you're doing yet.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:40 (one month ago) link

usually yes

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:47 (one month ago) link

(exciting -> excited)

Also creating without the expectation of an audience vs the knowledge of a huge audience, and the usual curve of your technical expertise and experience going up while the number of good ideas that are most 'you' go down/get used up, etc.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:54 (one month ago) link

Yes those are good points. There’s a lot of pressure on her in this album’s cycle that wasn’t there before and there have been several signs, like behind the curtain drama with her label and the constant re-scheduling.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:43 (one month ago) link

it's also the difference between working on an album for 2 weeks and working on an album for 2 years

― flappy bird, Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:28 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Makes me think of Brian Eno saying how deadlines and small budgets usually make for great records and how no deadlines and endless budgets don’t

winters (josh), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:09 (one month ago) link

My feeling is ppl are jumping to conclusions way too fast itt; this is more how I hoped “art angels” era would sound, maybe not a home run as a single but I could see being either disappointed or exciting depending on what follows ... not mad at refinement though, a lot of ilx hated “the present lover” for similar reasons & imo that album is a total classic

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:41 (one month ago) link

i personally like the track but i also don't have a particular allegiance to any single grimes style or sound or aesthetic, i'd have been disappointed if she'd stuck to a Visions template. it's hard to remember now how some of her earlier stuff found its way into chillwave threads (where even then something like "Vanessa" stood out as superior to most of the other tracks being posted and that's where i first heard of her) and it's probably good she didn't stick to a predictable path.

omar little, Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:10 (one month ago) link

Oh, I like this much more than WAP

winters (josh), Friday, 6 September 2019 03:42 (one month ago) link

love the way this song sounds

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 6 September 2019 03:43 (one month ago) link

I've listened to it a few more times and I'm enjoying it more than my first listen. I guess the reservation I really have with it is that it sounds like the coda to some longer, more fleshed out song. Which it very well could be, in context of the album, but it's a pretty irritating choice for a first single.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 6 September 2019 11:12 (one month ago) link

This new song is great, easily the most I've ever enjoyed her music.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 13:38 (one month ago) link

this sounds like a good song to do the macarena to

Non stop chantar (crüt), Friday, 6 September 2019 14:09 (one month ago) link


.@Grimezsz is awesome. That is all.

— Andrew Yang (@AndrewYang) September 9, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:00 (one month ago) link

symphonia mmxx (my wait is ubi)

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:39 (one month ago) link

Pursuing that coveted World Princess vote

what else are you all “over” (Champiness), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 02:46 (one month ago) link

Well, there's not much of a song but I still like this more than almost anything she's done since Visions (I REALLY disliked Art Angels and the following stuff).
So I might be interested in her output again... that's good !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:00 (one month ago) link

i don't get the people who hated art angels but like this because this just sounds like a sketch of an art angels song to me (in a negative way not in positive realiti demo comparison lol)

ufo, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:44 (one month ago) link

Well, I guess that's the more understated, minimalist, atmospheric/dreamy, demo aspect that I prefer in her work.
I loved Visions but couldn't stand the OTT production approach of Art Angels.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:53 (one month ago) link


pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:54 (one month ago) link

And that new track isn't great or anything. But it doesn't annoy me and is nice enough so that's already a big improvement to me !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:54 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

will relisten to hear this putative optimization!

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:06 (one week ago) link

that show looks rad and i wish i were anywhere near miami so i could go. i had missed the new single until seeing that article. i rlly like it but i want to remix it and add a B section after the breakdown.

davey, Thursday, 3 October 2019 09:29 (one week ago) link

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