PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

xp annunziata would send shivers down you wouldnt she

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— wint MP (@parliawint) September 4, 2019

can't wait for the hilarious sitcom/offbeat coming of age memoir whatever nauseating shite the bbc has commissioned by this nauseating fucking egomaniac.

interesting that the Victorian black and white etching of the foul rentier is labelled as a photo.

tarquin is a playwright, the voice of the people really. tarquin, how does all this politics make you feel, darling?

thing is she does the painfully wearying tearful performance like she's only just found out about the evil and duplicity of boris, hence all the energy she wasted trolling idiots on twitter, taking selfies with the also evil and duplicitous JRM a couple of years back. that's what you call opposition

well that's what some fucking idiots call the opposition.

Absolutely mad. https://t.co/3FrGWRxx0Z pic.twitter.com/NoTnujuGt2

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 4, 2019

deranged fuhrer bunker comments otm

Watching True get a shelling in the Lords is good value. As always, the Lords makes the Commons look like one of those modern no-fuss plain-speaking parliaments.

look at all that ageing wood panelling ... and the spectacular decor.

Damn, apparently I missed a lot of good stuff after the big vote.

the Americans are gon love this one..

Latest intel from the red benches. If Lords sits thru night and don't adjourn until after 10.30am tmrw (Thurs), it is still technically a 'Wednesday' until peers decide otherwise.
In parl terms, it could still be 'Wednesday' in Lords *for several days* until peers sort things.

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) September 4, 2019

sounds legit

Latest intel from the red benches. If Lords sits thru night and don't adjourn until after 10.30am tmrw (Thurs), it is still technically a 'Wednesday' until peers decide otherwise.
In parl terms, it could still be 'Wednesday' in Lords *for several days* until peers sort things.

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) September 4, 2019

Sorry! Xpost

*clock radio bursts into life playing "I Got EU Babe"*

Arriving in Lords with duvet, change of clothes and shaving kit. Could take us a while to see off 86 wrecking amendments on timetable motion today/tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/Knbxu1Odlf

— Dick Newby (@RichardNewby3) September 4, 2019

Hump day only lasted an hour or so longer in the end

Yeah I saw. Talk the Tories stopped filibustering as Boris still hopes to get an election.

Observation: the media, certainly BBC approach, to news, has become:

BJ, government do something outrageous like suspending Parliament, no deal Brexit, deselecting 21 MPs

JC criticises, cogently

BJ responds with bombastic attack that has nothing to do with the criticism or the questions posed

... and the crucial bit:

the media reports this by showing BJ's bombastic attack.

That then becomes the item, the news, the issue for discussion -- thus, literally yesterday, the BBC led with a story about JC avoiding an election. Meanwhile the things BJ has actually done; the questions posed; and his utter failure to acknowledge them -- are silenced.

The BBC and much of the UK for a long time has talked about the US going over the edge; 'normalising Trump'; the responsibility of the free press to hold him the account; etc -- but they are now doing the same thing; they are normalising a kind of UK Trump fake / anti / post - politics that has no relation to truth, accountability or even anything that has just been said in the previous 5 minutes -- that just exists as soundbites for uninformed people to see out of context.

You can always say 'it [the Con party] was always this bad', and it was indeed very bad, but I don't think it was quite like this.

I think that the liberals who have spent 3 years talking sententiously about Trump need to look at themselves about all this.

I saw someone tweet, about Trump preparing to remove birthright citizenship, that the Tories had already done this in this country in 1983.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDrfv_KUcAE3MuH.jpg

lol penis

curious that the melts decided that some pathetic grandstanding by Jess was a more pointed attack on Boris than Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi's, when it was the latter who attacked him for his racism rather than inarticulate blathering and genuinely made him squirm.

Arseholes on BBC Breakfast refusing to listen to John Mc's very clear explanation just so they can repeat Johnson's party line, it's pretty shockingly blatant.

Expect to hear the phrase "They/He are/is frightened of the British people" about a 1000 times before the end of the day.

i’m frightened of the british people tbf, seems like a pretty rational reaction

tbf Dhesi's attack was in the bbc news reports last night, including the applause and the BJ's refusal to answer it (well, replaying his "but most diverse cabinet ever!1!"), but I agree with Pinefox that on the whole the media haven't a clue how to deal with this and are definitely normalising BJ here.

I've got to leave the house at some point today, might be nice to take a break

xp
the whole house applauded him as well, it was quite a thing.

I'm frightened of elections, it's a perfectly rational fear though.

As we roll over into a new day, a reminder that it's Thursday morning so it's business questions. Jacob Rees-Mogg has to stand up in the Chamber in less than 11 hours & tell the House what's happening next week 👀

— Brigid Fowler (@Brigid_Fowler) September 4, 2019

Total BS https://t.co/DsjTKKyTtb

— LabourLordsUK (@LabourLordsUK) September 5, 2019

is farage actually per se more lethal to boris in a Nov election than an Oct one. having it in Nov focuses the election more on the specifics of why the Tories couldn't carry it out for 31/10. what exactly is farage going to argue boris should've done differently the last 2 weeks

— Tyron (@TyronWilson) September 4, 2019

it was indeed very bad, but I don't think it was quite like this.

Oh, I don't know, just been watching Canny Cops and the blight caused by Thatcher has lasted nearly 40 years which is not too shabby.

You, it must be said, love to see it

Tonight, @jeremycorbyn took the record for the Most Govt defeats during their tender as Leader of the Opposition: 41 vs Thatchers 40 pic.twitter.com/P0mD5QDm8u

— LeftWingScot (@LeftWingScot) September 4, 2019

Laura K is terrible

4. But one wise head with no skin in this game points out, flip side of FTPA traps Johnson, also protects him-govts don't fall just because of a few defeats - so if HE wanted to go long, then he could-opposition parties have taken a LONG time to start working together

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) September 5, 2019

And obviously they can table a VONC literally whenever they like

"I saw someone tweet, about Trump preparing to remove birthright citizenship, that the Tories had already done this in this country in 1983."

one of their reforms from that era put them in the embarrassing situation that the Falklands War was being waged on behalf of a territory whose population had recently been stripped of their main British Citizenship rights, like importantly I think the right of abode, lol Tories.

the Americans are gon love this one

this is a good point, please could British politics stop resembling a 6th form debating society playing Mao <hands self a penalty card> as my German teacher will ask what's going on and it's very embarrassing and quite hard to explain in bad-grade-at-GCSE-level German

now to spend the next 3 hours catching up on things which happened last night, and then there will be 3 hours of new baffling and worrying developments to catch up on, and maybe at some point someone might think I should do some work, I dunno

A senior government minister also predicted the opposition parties are playing straight into Dominic Cummings’ hands — and that the Tories are now on course to win a snap election. “I’ve seen the numbers from CCHQ, it really is black and white,” they said. “People want it done. They love it when we talk about schools, hospitals and police; they love it when we talk about broadband; they hate it when we talk about Brexit — and these people have just voted to talk more about Brexit. Nobody wants to spend three, six months rowing about Brexit.” To repeat, this may well prove to be the case.

does strike the fear into me tbh

Sounds like wishful thinking to me though, it isn't like boris isn't talking about brexit every day. And in an election campaign the Labour manifesto will be extensively talked about.

I want to believe Calz, but I'm surprised (well not surprised, but... no wait still a bit surprised) how the scum rags (see The Sun) are turning this into a 'Corbz is a chicken' thing, almost completely absolving BJ.

in unrelated news, busily pushing a book abt the old-school uk music-press on social media is getting me an ever-more noxious pile-up of friends requests from ppl who would very probably and unforcedly help the book's sales but whose posts abt jamrambam cnrrbrrr i do not currently wish to see

this is my stupid doom tbf you (meaning you!) probably love to see it

I am friends with some of the people you describe and I almost never see them initiate melt debates, rather they’re on others’ pages talking about how dumb they think jermy crumbum is and getting silently judged by people like us.

re the inevitable bad media blitz: as we squeaked a bit upthread, there was always going to be a downside to taking tony blair's advice

the possibly smaller upside is that these media outlets have a smaller outreach today than they did even in 2017: the failing fake news media, to coin a phrase

Excuse me, MY advice!

xp i see them there as well, suzy -- that's exactly how i know that i don't (for now) wish for any greater overlap!

i consider you and he co-terminous andrew :D

not worried about the ensuing bad media blitz - has been that way day in day out for 4 years now. I am worried about fighting an election against someone whose entire platform is 'ffs let's just get on with it' (however many difficulties and intricacies that may elide) - it's quite a resonant message I think. granted though, while it even resonates w me I'm never going to vote CON so I should take succour from the fact that other vectors will be at play in any GE