Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind

and just to be clear I otherwise ADORE this record and wish I had 5 or 6 votes

tmyfml reminds me of another song, i think, but i have no clue which one. it sounds better when he doesn't sing and you only hear the keyboards and the organ. usually his songs are carried by his voice but here it is different. the last twenty instrumental seconds are like a door to heaven. sorry for being so pathetic. i voted for another song.

Not to pile on, but for me the melody of TMYFML is pure doggerel. I can’t believe it made the album - but if it didn’t, no doubt it would have come out on Tell Tale Signs and we’d all be hailing it as another “Blind Willie McTell”.

yeah no

One of his better Anonymous Piano Ballads: "I'll Remember You." "Born in Time" is almost memorable.

also: Tell Tale Signs has forgettable crap on it too

a few good alternate live renditions of TOOM songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w9fUZZfA78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hO-83CIVKM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilOOisEHnw

but for me the melody of TMYFML is pure doggerel

One of his better Anonymous Piano Ballads: "I'll Remember You

I'm in Boston town, in some restaurant
I got no idea what I want

No way does it belong in his top tier, but a C is better than a D-.

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Also, the gospel vocals and guitar licks on "I'll Remember You" help, notably in the tug they give the middle eight ("Didn't I sleep, didn't I weep beside you/With the rain blowing in your haaaaiiirrrr?").

If you think gospel is "schmaltz," then our dictionaries are different.

Yeah I thought twice about using “doggerel” but I’m pretty tired and it was the word which conveyed a sense of rote cliché at the time. And Alfred I was being a touch sarcastic there.

gospel is blues with a religious base, i can't hear that in that song. though i must admit that most of the time i prefer the idea of gospel to its' execution. weirdly enough on sunday mornings i love gospel though. additionaly i am not a fan of dylan's christian phase at all.

gospel is blues

hm no

I mean sometimes it is but not always

probably should be an ILM dylan thread drinking game to see how long it takes for alfred to bring up empire burlesque (and for me to start posting bootlegs)

would also have accepted Street Legal

gospel is blues with a religious base

With respect, this isn't the least bit true.

it may be a simplification but there is a link between those two. both of them have a strong effect on the listener. blues does not preach, it only tells the facts whereas gospel does preach in a kind of worshipping way.

I think even if you were restricting yr definition of gospel to African Americans that still wouldn't really hold true, if we're considering the actual musicological aspects of blues (melodic patterns, blues scale, specific chord progressions) there's lots of gospel that doesn't include those elements.

both styles are very broad and overlap, but one is not a subset of the other

did someone say......STREET LEGAL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6i6Pbpc0z4

I like Robyn Hitchcock's "Not Dark Yet" cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPXlZ_sKb-Y

Solid album. Quite dark.

that live version of cold irons bound upthread is crazy good.

my favs are that one, not dark yet, and standing in the doorway. agree with the chatter about make you feel my love, was requested to play that during a wedding ceremony and nearly fell asleep at the piano.

Oh and pardon self-xposting but another good "Not Dark Yet" in a different way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ixkCXSI7M

I miss Dylan playing guitar.

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oh, i was the only voter for the song i voted for, interesting.

Picking up from the Spector thread, coincidentally Marc Maron just did a podcast with Daniel Lanois, and they spend a little time talking about the Dylan records:

http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-1193-daniel-lanois

The most amusing and impressive bit involves the loops Lanois made for Time Out of Mind. I know he's talked about making loops for the album elsewhere, and it's been reported many times that Dylan gave Lanois a whole bunch of old blues records (e.g. Charley Patton) prior to recording just to show him what he had in mind. But apparently, the loops were an insurance policy. It was understood that Dylan wanted an old blues sound, but Lanois was afraid that they would end up sounding like a bar band. So he gathered the key players that were hired for the album and had them play along with the exact same records Dylan given him. Then he wiped those vintage records from the multi-track so that all that was left was their own playing, and those were turned into loops. That way if things didn't go so well at the recording sessions, he could dig those up and use them as is or as a backing track to play along with. Kind of a brilliant cheat.

Mark Howard recorded another interview about working on this album:

https://dylanfmc.castos.com/podcasts/44253/episodes/s0103-mark-howard-engineer-time-out-of-mind

Actually not as redundant as I would think, he does give more details on why it was such a difficult project to work on. For example, it's already known that changing locations made things difficult, but he goes into further detail on why. For example, Criteria may have been a famous studio, but the physical room where they recorded their most famous stuff in the '70s had been converted into their tape vault, and the place they were stuck with sounded like shit with plaster all over the walls, etc. (Apparently it was the room used for their music video productions.)

Also good stuff that's worth repeating, like how they ended up mixing Dylan's voice through the harmonica amp, and how Dylan was a big fan of Beck and wanted to "sound like him" (i.e. incorporate some hip-hop inspired tricks that Beck used on his records).

Like Erica Jong?

I’m walking through
The summer nights
Jukebox playing low