PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Thornberry ignored the question so i'm guessing officially plan is to ignore the amendment until they can regroup and analyze/take advice

The Art of Waaaaaah

The amendment places no legal obligations on Parliament other than to hold a vote, but a series of theories about why the government acted as it did are doing the rounds. The first is that they hoped that it would cause Labour to abandon its support for the bill as a whole, as the Labour leadership also opposed the amendment. However, because Labour’s legal advice – and indeed the legal and constitutional advice of essentially every lawyer and constitutional expert on the planet as far as I can tell – is that the amendment means very little there was no real prospect of that, and indeed, even had it it been Labour would have been highly reluctant to be left holding the bag for a no-deal Brexit.

But the second and more important consequence is that because the vote passed by default, there is no division list. Even in defeat, the bill risked creating a far more dangerous blow to Boris Johnson than any effort to delay no deal – a positive majority for an alternative Brexit approach. Had 30 or so Labour MPs actually voted for the deal, the path to a plausible and negotiable deal other than that favoured by Johnson would have been clear.

Bush on Skinnocks amendment.

Ah right, I was thinking the government engineered the Skinnock amendment passing to play up the absurdity of May's WA having to go before Parliament yet again and thus link Corbyn and the opposition parties to this absurdity. This is the WA that the current PM voted for three times, of course.

thank fucking god for stephen bush tbh. he's not always right, and things have turned out differently than he predicted (how could they not) but by god it's soothing to read his words sometimes.

yep

Agreed, pouring one out for Skinnock failing at failing

Guess what? On Twitter, every middlebrow Polly Filla in the UK is performatively circle-jerking over Jess Phillips’ debate comments...

it was all bluster + no content so perfect for them

Bush in with the sanity. I think the Lords can also strip the amendment tomorrow if they ever get done filibustering.

Did the stream hiccup or does the speaker literally just interrupt like that?

Not watching atm, but could easily be Bercow carrying on as he normally does

Yeah I'm watching a Nazi doc for light relief

I'm not following the bit about no division list.....

i think that johnsons ppl wanted at all costs to avoid a positive brexit option having the moral weight of a majority of the commons for the first time

The report on the ground was that the Nay lobby was rammed and nothing in the debate made it look like the amendment would pass but these things are unknowable now which doesn't hurt the government

John Bercow here, sounding like he’s been slain in a Megadrive game pic.twitter.com/NbXlwee6hG

— Richard Wheeler (@richard_kaputt) February 26, 2019

Oh good it's Sun Tzoubz

― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:29 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I blame this thread for hearing the 'one two' intro as 'woke soubz'

https://youtu.be/wsUHdgHQ8jE

Tracer: If for some reason the SKinnock amendment had got a majority and that included a load of Tories, then Boris would be fucked as it'd be clear there *was* now a majority for the WA, backstop included. No division list means we'll never know (except we do and their wasn't)

not letting this lie, we all need some devo from time to time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsUHdgHQ8jE&frags=pl%2Cwn

LOL Tories.

Woke Soubz (woke soubz) she'll stop brexit
Woke Soubz (woke soubz) always votes this way
Woke Soubz (woke soubz) wokest Tory by miles
Woke Sooouubz alwaaayys shiiine

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) January 19, 2018

Wrong. Tonight’s motion will not succeed. It cannot be moved again until new session which begins on 14 Oct. Any election called after 14 Oct will have to take place after 31 October. Any bill to repeal or set aside FTPA can be amended and will have to get through Lords. https://t.co/X2mFvJU3df

— Nick Boles MP (@NickBoles) September 4, 2019

never seen jess phillips more visibly upset than when she's talking about the break-up of the conservative party

— steffan (@SteffanBlayney) September 4, 2019

Sweet.

guys i think bojo's fucked it

we can but hope

cool party leader the Tories have there - completely fucks his priorities and splits the party all on his first day on the job.

i'm no fan of Bernard Jenkin but if TMay/Boris's parliament doesn't go down on Wikipedia as the ZOMBIE PARLIAMENT i think we'll all be a little poorer for it

The FTPA is David Cameron and Nick Clegg’s greatest gift to comedy.

Remember when may had fucked it?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51-tVXh2edL._SL500_.jpg

you love to see it

Am hearing many Tory MPs, including majority of Boris Johnson’s Cabinet, believe expelling two former Chancellors, moderates and long serving Tories like @NSoames was huge error. “We’ve got to bring them back if we want to win the coming election” said one. Watch this space

— Lionel Barber (@lionelbarber) September 4, 2019

Clowns.

“We’ve got to bring them back if we want to win the coming election”

lol idiots damage is done - already made them look bonkers

The prime minister along with the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, SNP Westminster leader, Ian Blackford, Jess Phillips and Dominic Grieve will be on Peston in a bit. Should be fun.

I still can't believe you have people with names like "Jacob Rees-Mogg" and "Dominic Grieve" running around the halls of government

Just catching up now and really happy at all of this.

(xp) You ain't seen nothin' yet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Drax

I was like "OK well Drax is an odd surname I guess" and then I clicked through and my jaw dropped

Especially at Soames' humiliation. Cummings ain't all bad, giving some of these cunts a kicking.

I can't follow any of this at all but it hasn't stopped my enjoyment

Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax? C'mon, that's not a real name. Did he have a mom and shit like that?

*apologies for obscure NME joke*

I was like "OK well Drax is an odd surname I guess" and then I clicked through and my jaw dropped

― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 5 September 2019 7:30 AM (twenty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

The James Bond character, Hugo Drax was named after his grandfather.

Grieve is French tbh, you want Mike Gapes and Roderick James Nugent Stewart in there instead

every time i hear about filibustering i forget how exactly it can be allowed to work in a nation fit to hold the name

youd be fucked out the oireachtas for that nonsense

well see we had to preserve slavery

and the filibuster was the only way!

xxp did we not invent obstruction (Parnell?)

ahem

not in our parliament

rip dave i wanna run to u

Just received a text to say that my Association Chairman has been told that I am no longer a member of the Conservative Party. First I’d heard of that.

Not even a member of the Conservative Party?

I finally have something in common with Dominic Cummings.

— David Gauke (@DavidGauke) September 4, 2019