I have never heard of Tom Watson
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link
feeling very seen and shamed that i *know* who all those ppl are tbrr
i shd take up something non-toxic and useful, maybe pokemon
― mark s, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link
There are obvious similarities
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link
Watson is that steroids guy who bravely brought down the paedo ring, that Kevin Costner movie The Untouchables is based on him
― calzino, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link
If this the last week or so is a tactical error by Cummings/Johnson, what should they have done differently. If you want to leave on the most definitive terms possible, what was the right move here?
― stet, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link
l-r: johnson, cummingshttps://i.imgur.com/8WwvFwG.jpg
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link
xp how would you get the bants when Big Baz goes off thoughLast night was a gift to memes
I’d like to bring something to Westminster’s attention pic.twitter.com/rkLcFNHfJz— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 3, 2019
pic.twitter.com/m4isdhfa0q— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 4, 2019
pic.twitter.com/zHtff866Pe— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 3, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:22 (four years ago) link
after last night I need a new fav Tory. I'm concerned Tommy Tugz smile is too bland & Dec-ish, but he does apparently speak dari
― ogmor, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
Scottish judge chucked out the "no proragation" case
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
Gina McKee and John Majors still at bat tomorrow tho
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link
Northern Ireland one still on, too, I think?
― coup de twat (suzy), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link
yesterday the FT said Sobez had one with Jess Phillips as well?
― ogmor, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link
I've lost track of which one's which tbh
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
Sleepwalking into disaster pic.twitter.com/C06GRR4H1O— cyriak harris (@cyriakharris) September 4, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:33 (four years ago) link
jacob rees-qwop
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link
cyriak :D
― imago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:36 (four years ago) link
The JRM picture says more than a thousand words. But these are some sweet words imo:
Rees-Mogg's 'arrogant' speech cost government four extra vote, says Tory rebelTurning back to Jacob Rees-Mogg, it has emerged that he single-handedly managed to push the size of the rebellion last night over the 20 mark. In an interview with the Today programme’s Ross Hawkins, Guto Bebb, one of the most prominent rebels, said that Rees-Mogg’s speech helped to persuade four MPs to join him in voting against the government. Bebb said:There were at least four individuals who were still doubtful who changed their position to being supportive and voting with us on the back of Jacob’s performance. He was deemed to be arrogant, out of touch and I think the way in which he treated some of the interventions was a red rag to bull in many cases.
Turning back to Jacob Rees-Mogg, it has emerged that he single-handedly managed to push the size of the rebellion last night over the 20 mark. In an interview with the Today programme’s Ross Hawkins, Guto Bebb, one of the most prominent rebels, said that Rees-Mogg’s speech helped to persuade four MPs to join him in voting against the government. Bebb said:
There were at least four individuals who were still doubtful who changed their position to being supportive and voting with us on the back of Jacob’s performance. He was deemed to be arrogant, out of touch and I think the way in which he treated some of the interventions was a red rag to bull in many cases.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link
Philip Lee said he quit cos of the way JRM dismissed the doctor worried about no deal
― gyac, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
If this bill can get done a prorogued Parliament hurts the govt more than the opposition so probably a good thing in short term if the cases fail
― stet, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link
Yeah they're a side show at the moment, don't think Johnson will be more meaningfully damaged by losing in court
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link
CHRIS MORRIS: Do you feel any pride now, about that?SIR ARTHUR STREEB-GREEBLING: I feel nothing but pride. That's all I do feel. An empty pride, a hopeless vanity, a dreadful arrogance, a stupefyingly futile conceit - but at least it's something to hang onto. pic.twitter.com/ozXp5X4TXI— Ian Penman (@pawboy2) September 4, 2019
― calzino, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link
There is some debate over whether all this – the prorogation, the expulsions – is a series of improvised moves born of panic or, on the contrary, a cunning plan. Within that question is a related one: is the PM’s chief aide, Dominic Cummings, an evil genius or what Marina Hyde calls a “crap svengali”? One of the victims of the Tory purge – Tory grandee and Churchill’s grandson Nicholas Soames – told BBC Newsnight he believes this is all very deliberate. The assumption is that Cummings is intentionally baiting MPs so that he can trigger an election that Johnson will then cast as a populist battle of “people vs parliament”.If that’s right, it is surely the most high-risk electoral strategy ever attempted in this country. It knowingly alienates moderate Tory voters who have always quite liked, say, Ken Clarke, thereby writing off a string of seats – in the south and the West Country – that are likely to fall to the Liberal Democrats. It similarly dooms the Tories in Scotland. So Johnson will begin the next election campaign with that immediate handicap. The Cummings plan is to make up for those lost seats, and gain many more, by winning pro-leave seats in the Midlands and north of England, many of them Labour-held, chiefly by neutralising the Brexit party. Why vote for Nigel Farage when you can get a no-deal, full-monty Brexit with Johnson?The trouble with that is, there are plenty of onetime Labour voters who were happy to vote leave in 2016, happy even to vote for Farage in May’s European elections, who may nevertheless baulk at voting Tory. Still, Cummings and Johnson are gambling on the belief that they can burn down every other plank of historic Tory support, but win power by delighting the hardcore Brexit base. Win the 35%, enrage everyone else.
If that’s right, it is surely the most high-risk electoral strategy ever attempted in this country. It knowingly alienates moderate Tory voters who have always quite liked, say, Ken Clarke, thereby writing off a string of seats – in the south and the West Country – that are likely to fall to the Liberal Democrats. It similarly dooms the Tories in Scotland. So Johnson will begin the next election campaign with that immediate handicap. The Cummings plan is to make up for those lost seats, and gain many more, by winning pro-leave seats in the Midlands and north of England, many of them Labour-held, chiefly by neutralising the Brexit party. Why vote for Nigel Farage when you can get a no-deal, full-monty Brexit with Johnson?
The trouble with that is, there are plenty of onetime Labour voters who were happy to vote leave in 2016, happy even to vote for Farage in May’s European elections, who may nevertheless baulk at voting Tory. Still, Cummings and Johnson are gambling on the belief that they can burn down every other plank of historic Tory support, but win power by delighting the hardcore Brexit base. Win the 35%, enrage everyone else.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/04/boris-johnson-electoral-gamble-wreck-tory-party
Freedland trying to figure out if it's Machiavellian or cunning Baldrick style. "Full-monty Brexit with Johnson" is a sentence I'll not forget today, sadly.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link
sics aggressively rude style of posting stands out for sure
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:51 (four years ago) link
sicco mode
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
slouching towards bedlam
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 09:16 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
second a+ post in as many days, brexitbos good again
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link
At cabinet this morning the chancellor discussed his plans ahead of today’s spending round where he will present an ambitious domestic agenda, delivering on the government’s priorities. He said that thanks to the hard work of the British people and tough decisions made over the last decade, we are beginning a new decade of renewal.
We are delivering a step-change in spending on people’s priorities, which is why we are spending more on the NHS, properly funding our schools, boosting further education and tackling violent crime by hiring 20,000 new police officers.
The prime minister thanked the chancellor and HM Treasury for all of their work and said that levelling up was at the core of this spending round, unlocking the talent of the whole of the United Kingdom.
corbyn did this
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link
xpif he is hardy enough to dish it out and take it without crying, what concern is there to keep fucking droning on about it? beyond doing your daily trolling rounds of course!
― calzino, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link
first "surrender bill" of the day :D
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link
Moggwump the H8 pencil in human form needs to be kneecapped by MPs and media alike much more on how he stands to profit from No Deal imo
― nashwan, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link
Hours of daylight on potential election day possibly an issue. If shorter daylight= lower turnout that will probably benefit tories. December 21st poll then.
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link
I’d settle for him just being kneecapped tbh xp
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link
calz if pointing out the utterly pointlessly aggressive approach taken by a few gatekeepers in this thread to any discussion they dont like is trolling find me a bridge to underhabit
if we have to discuss it in the combative terms that seem to be required i just think, to drone on, that yourself and others could probably do without being such right cunts quite so often. its not like the fractured smash of uk politics isnt a broad church at present with some room for uncertain questioning.
this is where i type "idk, but" so that wins can declare im being whimsically obtuse or whatever
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link
ken clarke for pm an all
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link
lol you are often obtuse and a troll, and a complete cunt in the same post. So i can't really take your faux outrage here seriously. A couple of harsh sentences got posted late at night, nobody got thread-banned, nobody died - nothing to see.
― calzino, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link
but you agree about ken clarke
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link
jazz is good now
― mark s, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link
goodbye pork pie tugendhat
anyway lol
Not sure which version of the last night's meme I like best... pic.twitter.com/WUa6UnuqOv— Martin Stabe (@martinstabe) September 4, 2019
― nashwan, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link
I was not being pointlessly aggressive btw. Just trying to get some sense out of what sic was saying last night. It was odd to get someone on the JC hates the EU just at the moment he was doing his best to keep its integrity xps
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link
Woodcraft in Corbynworld
^my people
Jimmy Crubbles played a blinder last night. Very much the right man for the moment. Saying this not just to avoid a tankie monstering. (Monster away). Political machinations are definitely his thing. Looking forward to his upcoming premiership, but also to effective labour succession planning because we could do with not being lead by an old white man for at least a little bit (record with old white women is poor too).
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link
BJ just called JC caracas lmao
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link
jazz always was good
― calzino, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link
caracas!.jpg
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link
the matter is closed xyz we shall all carry on posting (bags sid james)
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link
in better news my drywall joke on twitter has nearly gone viral
― mark s, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link
Hammond, Clarke and others still sitting on the government benches this morning
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link
Ok darragh until next time you pointlessly try and tell me off for the way I post just note you are wasting your time. I find the classroom monitoring cute at best.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link
@NickBolesCorbyn should learn from history. If Brown had called an election in Sept 2007, he would have won. By Oct, the honeymoon dust had worn off and it was too late. If Corbyn grants Johnson an Oct election, Johnson is odds on to win. By Nov, after an extension, he will be beatable.10:24 AM · Sep 4, 2019
Buffoon undermines own argument - Johnson's honeymoon is already over, his polls bounce was pitiful and his party are at their weakest since before the global crash.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link
I find the classroom monitoring cute at best
lol you do this all the time
― mark s, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link
hmm will certainly look out for anyone itt wasting their time lecturing ppl, thx
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link
effective labour succession planning
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrrTkFyFrYPsz6dU4GjGpBxTj5OMbBD16ELZeRUqRuDjXGrOPZYw
He's ready
― anvil, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link