It’s to get an extension and an election.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
so Labour's goal here is to get an extension and not have an election? idg how this is a victory and not just another delay of the inevitable.
Have an election at the proper time when Bozo has become a laughing stock who's destroyed the Tory Party.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
Multixp why are some of the men in the picture titled Mr and some not, is it some arcane HoC rule?
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
Examples?
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
idg how this is a victory
Corbyn is already incompetent at winning an election & Labour have collapsed in the polls, so an election doesn't need to be his main priority
also he is pro-Brexit & thinks everyone will just live off community vegetable patches, but most of his party are Remain, so remaining in stasis suits his leadership
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
when Bozo has become a laughing stock who's destroyed the Tory Party.
but.... isn't that what just happened
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
some of them are women
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
The point of getting an election first is so the country doesn’t crash out during/just after an election campaign, so if labour won the election they’re not taking power to food and medicine shortages and deaths while the Tories slip off into the sunset
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
my guess would be those ones entered their title on the conservative party intranet or w/e
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
no
xxps
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
I didn’t know Ian Dunt posted here
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
always up for a package from katie razzle
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
"so Labour's goal here is to get an extension and not have an election?"
sic are you ok hun?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
Are the nontitled ones unmarried maybe?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
Tonight we defeated Boris Johnson in his first Commons test and tomorrow we will legislate against his disastrous No Deal plans. We'll support a vote to call a General Election, so the people can decide our country's future, once the Bill to stop No Deal is law.— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) September 3, 2019
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
"Corbyn is already incompetent at winning an election & Labour have collapsed in the polls, so an election doesn't need to be his main priority"
Lol my phone but the state of this.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
looking forward to lots of performative confusion about labour's stance on a GE over the coming days
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
... despite the fact the position can be put clearly in a tweet
just a disgrace. Change UK should never have been allowed to lead the National Unity Government. pic.twitter.com/RIjJcjechr— Reel Politik podcast (@reel_politcast) September 3, 2019
― calzino, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
Dominic Cummings just bumped into Corbyn in Portcullis House and shouted “Come on Jeremy let’s do this election, don’t be scared.” My spy says Corbyn was bundled away by horrified aides— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) September 3, 2019
― stet, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
So, strategically, the idea is to set in stone that No Deal is no-go, which means the only options are deal or remain, which means that whoever wins the election would then be forced into the same untenable position as May, in search of a fantasy deal that will satisfy no majority?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
If you mean why are some MPs addressed as the Rt Hon so and so, it depends if they hold senior office and/or are on the privy council, so members of the opposition can be the Rt Hon as well
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
TS: MR dominic cummings Vs MR seumas milne
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
get they whips withdrawn, PM cummings ya wee jeans and sheux fuckdeep feels on this post
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
Needs a bawbag to get full marks
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 bookmarkflaglink
One step at a time. This is going to go on for a potentially very long time. You are looking at one election, a recession. At the least.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
Corbyn @ Cummingshttps://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/indy100/WJgN8NinxBZ/26809-8mqc93.jpg
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
I'm getting real Scaramucci vibes from Cummings at this point.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
At least that fat cunt Soames is retiring
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
yes, in the array of photos it looks like get a "mr" by their name if they're privy councillors (and male lol, justine greening is a privy councillor): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_British_Privy_Council
arcane HoC rules (privy councillor = has been in the cabinet at some point = what gyac just said)
*i didn't check everyone tho
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
whoever wins the election would then be forced into the same untenable position as May, in search of a fantasy deal that will satisfy no majority?
well, the make-up of the house changes after an election, so there may then be a majority for... something (good or bad)
or, you know, there may not - we may shake the snowglobe and end up exactly as stuck as before
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
Jereboam Crowbar having a good night.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
This has been worth staying up for (watch the background). pic.twitter.com/ZbRrSguSLU— Tami Hoffman (@TamiHoffman) September 3, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
rory gone
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
Wonder what odds I can get on Big Dom actually twatting somebody before the week's out
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
xpost Can a new majority simply ("simply") vote to just put No Deal back on the agenda?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
several xps sorry i ended up posting that garbage uncorrected, pick the bones out of it if you need to
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
What was he doing riding a bike in Edinburgh at this time of night?
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
Idk either so
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
Yes - if the Tories win a majority they can put No Deal back on the agenda. But they (quite) probably can't get a majority by campaigning for No Deal.
― stet, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
if labour/some unity govt win the next election there would be 1) a new deal (fewer of may's red lines, so mb customs union or the fabled 'common market 2.0', which were iirc the most popular options in the indicative voting they had in the commons a few months back) and then, if the arithmetic maintains 2) a referendum on the new deal v remain
a lot of the tories who voted with the govt tonight don't want no deal per se, they just want the threat to get a deal. no deal is unpopular
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
My guess is if Brexit is to go through it would be via a re-worded withdrawal agreement by a future commons with diff numbers.
But that needs an election. And fuck knows what else.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
BREAKING: Rory Stewart confirms at the GQ awards (of all places) that he won’t be standing at the next election. His political career ends here... but goes out with quite a bang at the after party. https://t.co/gyVfICeMqy— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) September 3, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
The whole idea that the "threat" of No Deal gives the UK any sort of advantage is so risible but seems impossible to unpick
― stet, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
lol cummings getting pelters on NN
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
rip rory, walking & listening into the sunset
― ogmor, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
xpssic, leave the thread fule!
― calzino, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
Second ref suddenly feels quite likely.
― stet, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link
hammond gone
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link
lovely stuff