The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

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feel like the POTUS skipping the WW2 memorial to monitor the hurricane and then going golfing at his own resort on the taxpayer's dime instead should probably be a bigger story but oh well

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

BREAKING: In a massive 357 page opinion a North Carolina Court has struck down the State's legislative districts as partisan gerrymanders. New districts to be in place for 2020 elections.

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) September 3, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

Yeah, but it was "very fast" and "very inexpensive," so nothing to see here. xp

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

Oh and also, yay North Carolina! Need to read about this.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

Wow. And that's a finding on state Constitution grounds, which should mean that, as in Pennsylvania, there's no appeal to SCOTUS.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

I truly love when judges issue tome-length opinions

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

lol owned

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

fuck wrong thread

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

not really

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

Ted Cruz, on FB yesterday, requesting a tin foil beard covering of some sort:

The Deep State is hard at work, working to prevent this admin from dismantling the Iran nuclear deal completely...The Obama-Iran deal was a disaster when Obama implemented this policy & if the Deep State prevails they will have deceived POTUS into making the same mistakes.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

Chris Hayes has an interview with Ted Cruz being aired at the end of the month. Scheduled to be recorded on the 28th September during a live Why Is This Happening tour.

Sounded like an odd choice for a live interview. unless giving him the best part of an hour's airti9me is supposed to be giving him enough room to hang himself.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

Would love to have one of these absolute ding dongs sit down and explain at length what they mean by 'deep state', like who is its constituency exactly, how does it function, from where does it derive its operating funds, etc. I mean this is shit that a not particularly bright six-year-old could pick apart without much effort.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link

amusingly when they do they are basically describing the Trump administration

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

Mike Pence expected to arrive in Doonbeg shortly. Hopefully gardai can manage the large crowds. pic.twitter.com/2eIQG5FGFC

— Ian Begley (@IanBegley_) September 3, 2019

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

More like Mike Ha'penny amirite

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

this is a pretty loaded image

https://i.imgur.com/dyxsKP8.jpg

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

so not gonna happen

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

BREAKING: Trump just told reporters Dow stock index would be "10,000 points higher" if he hadn't started tariff war with China.

— Mike Dorning (@MikeDorning) September 4, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

Yes, and in more general terms, many other things in the world would be vastly improved if you had been bound and gagged for your entire adult life, Donald. Many many things.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

this is the final straw; pelosi has no choice but to impeach

The President of the United States altered a National Hurricane Center map with a sharpie to falsely extend the official forecast toward Alabama so he didn't have to admit he was wrong in a tweet. https://t.co/i0CJcYV4yq pic.twitter.com/pR57IL6WfT

— Dennis Mersereau (@wxdam) September 4, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

It's fun to have a president who ceaselessly provides all-new reasons to ask 'no, seriously: what the actual fucking fuck is wrong with you?'.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

I was surprised to see the NC republicans aren't appealing the decision, abandoning their playbook of doing literally everything possible to obstruct until the fat lady sings.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

We all know what's wrong with him; this issue is what's wrong with the people who voted for him

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

hilarious and sad. could he be any more DSM-y??

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

I mean anyone with functioning sense organs and passable critical faculties knows what's wrong with him. It's just astonishing that there are seemingly an endless number of novel ways in which his damage manifests.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

I was surprised to see the NC republicans aren't appealing the decision, abandoning their playbook of doing literally everything possible to obstruct until the fat lady sings.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive),

I won't believe it yet!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article234668747.html

“We disagree with the court’s ruling as it contradicts the Constitution and binding legal precedent, but we intend to respect the court’s decision and finally put this divisive battle behind us,” Berger said in a statement. “Nearly a decade of relentless litigation has strained the legitimacy of this state’s institutions, and the relationship between its leaders, to the breaking point. It’s time to move on.”

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

*guy shits in punch bowl at a party*
everyone who isn't shitter or friends with shitter: "for fuck's sake man don't shit in the punch bowl, do we really need to make a law against that???"
shitter: "this party has been strained to the breaking point by these anti-shitters. guess it's time for me to bowel move on"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

at least he didn't sign the hurricane map, one step at a time folks

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

Conservative operative Jacob Wohl is wanted on a felony arrest warrant in California, a development that could hamper his spree of bizarre, blundering political schemes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

lmao securities fraud same thing that got Martin Shkreli

goes to show if you're a white conservative you can commit as many crimes as you want so long as you don't fuck with rich people's money

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

This has been known for years, though

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Some might argue that this marks a radical departure for conservative operative Jacob Wohl, but to this reviewer, there's a seamless continuity between a felony arrest warrant and the earlier bizarre and blundering work of this budding auteur.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

admittedly I'm still shocked he didn't get anything for trying to gin up an obviously fake sex scandal against Mueller

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

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quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

please stop doing that you tiresome self-parody

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/459943-trump-displays-map-with-dorians-original-path-extended-toward-alabama
trump's big map that he found with a sharpy circle extending to Alabama

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

jesus, sorry for repost

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

I humbly apologise for being curious to read Steveo's link but also for not wanting to fund a company that is actively undermining free elections around the world

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

the Irish Times?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

Unsurprisingly, fears of Brexit have been a positive for foreign direct investment in Ireland, as the preferred English-speaking portal to Europe.

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

the Irish Times?

Facebook, if I'm parsing that argument correctly

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

yes but stevo's link is from the Irish Times

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Post the link without the tracking hash. Then people can use what you post rather than thinking your posts suck?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

ah now I get it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link

Laura Loomer coming off like a C-Team Kardashian in that pic upthread.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

Post the link without the tracking hash. Then people can use what you post rather than thinking your posts suck?


Or, you know, c+p the link and cut out the tracky bits, like a fucking adult

Takes less work than reposting just the tracky bits to prove what a fucking smarmy knowitall you are

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

This is from last week, but it's the best explanation I've seen of the whole CrowdStrike thing: https://www.wired.com/story/trump-ukraine-call-crowdstrike-dnc-russia/.

I know this is just kind of footnote in the larger craziness, but it's a great example of the way closed information systems can generate their own pseudo-reality, and the consequences when that collides with actual reality. It leads to the president of the U.S. asking the president of Ukraine to investigate something that never happened, involving entities with no actual connection to Ukraine.

This kind of stuff makes me paranoid that the actual reality will also turn out to be false, even though I know better.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link

also regarding CrowdStrike:

https://thebulwark.com/about-that-favor-trump-wanted-from-ukraine/

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

who is the most honorable person that Trump appointed?

Rick Perry admitted publically that the Department of Energy that he now runs actually does some useful and important work, which surprised him. But he's probably done some evil shit around fossil fuels that I didn't connect to him when it happened, because he keeps his head down.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link

Just read this on an actual normally-intelligent friend's page:

"Trump has a point! When he calls out fake news he is not always on the wrong side. Trump did not threaten civil war. I have heard this on numerous outlets. He retweeted a message that said “If the Democrats are successful in removing the president...it will cause a CIVIL WAR LIKE FRACTURE from which our nation will never recover.” That is NOT threatening civil war. When news outlets do this it literally rips the higher ground we stand on from
Under our feet. STOP IT!!"

It's takes like this that make me want to live in New Zealand in 2020

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:38 (four years ago) link

sorry, peter thiel took the last spot

meanwhile he is paying to have you ruled by kris kobach

j., Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:42 (four years ago) link

really don't want to see that shit

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:45 (four years ago) link

:((((

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link

i was driving home from work and someone had unfurled a giant banner across the overpass that said "DEMOCRATS ARE THE ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE". i of course steered the vehicle with my knees in rush hour so i could give them a tremendously exuberant double fuck you, and accidentally honked my horn at the same time

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link

sorry Neanderthal, I’m really anxious about what’s going to happen, it’s hard enough for me to deal with the official news

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 05:17 (four years ago) link

normally-intelligent friend

Might be time to reassess their intelligence based on new evidence.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

New thread!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link

let's keep the new one free of Star Wars nerdery

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link


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