TOOL - C/D!?

The guitar has always been the least interesting part of Tool

I still haven't finished this. Hurricane stress has me playing all death metal

I have liked what i have heard tho

love this record I decided.

same

It's definitely growing on me. It helps to focus on the drumming. I think on first listen I was just hearing a lot of flat empty space where it seemed like they were avoiding songcraft. Probably why 7empest stood out first.

Every few years I’ll catch Sober somewhere and I’m surprised by how much I still like it. Special kind of eeriness that sticks out in that early 90s rock landscape. Won’t rep for Maynard as a person or a lyricist but “Waiting like a stalking butler/Who upon the finger rests” is forever buried in my brain. Great haunted house of a song.

The more prog they got the less I cared.

"Eulogy" is my all time fav

Yeah that was a fav from AEnima too at the time. I really loved these guys in high school (up to the Lateralus era, which I half dug) so can’t fully get on the lol-TOOL train.

Can’t make it through a whole album anymore, but still have some appreciation for the pre-Lateralus jams. Debuting your big deal followup album with a single about fisting buttholes was pretty good imo.

I liked your review, Whiney.

if there's one album I'd completely trust Whiney to review well it's this lol

ha, thanks guys!

I dreaded listening to this (the length, the austerity, the lyrics, Toolbros, etc) but...I like it? Adding some dynamics and simmer to odd-time meditations is a good move. And it sounds really good.

Listening to the Trap set episode with Carey, I thought he'd be a little more erudite, he sounds like some 70s burnout guy, with endless repetition of 'maaaan', 'dude' and 'fuckin...' was jarring to listen to.

Oh same for sure, I imagined him being more of a pseudo-intellectual stoner type.

Put this on again yesterday, still think it's mostly just OK. "7empest" is cool but sounds like something that would have been toward the start of past Tool albums rather than its conclusion. And too many of their songs end the same way, with some minimal morse-code guitar riff while Carey does a bunch of killer fills. Though I kind of like that about them.

morse code uses a single tone and seems like a bad description. i don't recall any marquee moon solos in this thing.

Morse code riffs then. Chug. Chug chug. Chug. Chug Chug Chug. Chug.

i agree that the single tone of a morse code and the multiple tones of these riffs are excited according to the timing of a rhythm

I know what you mean. I just think all riffs are as much morse code as these riffs.

and you are being unfair to these poor riffs, which are good

lol I got back to my headphones and you are correct, Josh. They do that multiple times with the same tone at the end of songs.

it is just Invincible and Descending, though.

the one chord chug always sounds cool

I love the minimalist one chord chugs, actually. And the Carey fills. It just underscores how for all the tightness of the arrangements and chops and stuff their compositions are often in the end just variations on time signature subdivisions. Which is cool, too!

the one chord chug always sounds cool

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:46 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

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the post-helmet database of 90s alt-rock bands copping staccato/modal/minimal riffs

god this record is just so good. great review whiney

yeah good review. i love all the six actual songs on here pretty much equally at this point.

I enjoyed listening to it again at dinner, and it says ... something that my family did not tell me to turn it off! Also, I listened to it on a mono bluetooth speaker, which did some awesome things to the mix, most notably making it sound (even more) like one big drum solo, which was kind of cool.

the way adam jones plays the same riff for three minutes straight on 'invincible' while the song changes dramatically around him is something else

i had no idea how much Maynard looks like the guy who played Dean Pelton of Community

Taylor Swift stans learning who Tool are because they're currently selling more copies than "Lover" is really something special pic.twitter.com/k398YRDzvZ

— Ryan Broderick (@broderick) September 4, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Cqbk9CJz8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L6UNI4S-dc

mmm, I'm not sure - not as convincing as the 10,000 Days one imho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ALEXvu3b8

Dig the repetitive riffs remind me of "Didn't We Deserve a Look at you As you really are" by Shellac

I was just thinking how funny this album would sound if all the muscular drums were replaced with rinky-dink '80s electric drums.

Chocolate Chip Trip is some good bloop bleep

Yeah the occasional synth or thumb piano texture is like a blast of fresh air

Did I hear a triggered clap or two?

another printing of the ltd edition is available to order on their site until midnight tonight

sold out already btw

none of this is anything Meshuggah haven't done way better obv

― imago, Friday, August 30, 2019 1:31 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have yet to have my "Meshuggah moment" because I can't handle the vocals. But I should give 'em another try.

― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 August 2019 18:19 (one week ago) link

I'm not sure Meshuggah is a remotely comparable band.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2019 18:26 (one week ago) link

quick chime in that years back during a Lateralus-era tour Mesuggah opened for them and during the Tool set they brought out their drummer to jam during "Triad" and it fucking killed.

I also saw that tour and enjoyed Meshuggah far more than Tool, even though I hadn't heard any Meshuggah. Maynard sang at the rear of the stage with his back to the audience the whole show, and during a break they played a ten minute noise loop. I think I'd dig that kind of weirdness more now but at age 21 I felt completely ripped off

Isis opened for Tool on one tour too, iirc.

I've seen the band a few times but don't remember much about any of the shows. I saw them on Ozzfest once or twice, in a smaller theatre once, in a bigger theatre once (I brought my dad, who was amused).

I caught the Meshuggah/Tool show in Toledo, Ohio.
It might have been the only time I ever went to Toledo, Ohio.

Anyway, I like the new record a lot and i feel that "7empest" might be the quintessential Tool track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEGZdBEgH1M

Someone on Reddit said they get a different playing order when using Android Auto or Apple Carplay - don't know if it works, am going to try:

Numerical UFO (just in case the album title is an anagram too) ("Rueful Monica" is another one)

1: 7empest
2: Chocolate Chip Trip
3: Culling Voices
4: Legion Inoculant
5: Litanie contre la Peur
6: Invincible
7: Mocking Beat
8: Fear Inoculum
9: Descending
10: Pneuma

Is there any way to buy this album in a standard affordable format? I've only seen the CD box version for €85

Nope. So far that's the only available physical release. Rumored that a vinyl release and standard CD version is coming, but nothing concrete just yet.

Got an email with just this attached pic.twitter.com/pwqbYhtSYW

— Jeremy D. Larson (@jeremydlarson) September 21, 2019

Kinda hard to get Tool when you have no ears

"Parabola" does that sometimes