I dare you to anticipate Joaquin Phoenix in Todd Phillips's JOKER (now with something that may or may not be a SPOILER)

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Lmao Glieberman's rave for Variety is such horseshit

Simon H., Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

this is a regular thing for Mekler - within the hour Indiewire, Slashfilm, IGN and C/Net had quoted him straight-faced, and Warner Bros Worldwide Picture Marketing sent him a release form requesting permission to quote him in all media in perpetuity

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

lol @ those Mekler tweets

circa1916, Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

it’s hilarious that this particular role has become the Everest for male actors wanting to prove their actorly intensity tho especially when you go back to the pre-ledger ones

The most intensely challenging, daunting role that any actor can play is that of the clown who fights Batman.

— ℑ 𝔇𝔬𝔫'𝔱 𝔅𝔩𝔞𝔪𝔢 𝔜𝔬𝔲 (@NickPinkerton) January 22, 2016

Number None, Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

the clown prince of blockbuster reviews

Hmmm, kinda reminds me of somebody.

pplains, Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

And behold, the ONLY WOC review I've seen. https://t.co/Uw5DZ8aeqv

— Yolanda Machado (@SassyMamainLA) August 31, 2019

... (Eazy), Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

we can "joke" but the Joker is such an intense character to play that it killed Heath Ledger via the most diabolical weapon of all, method acting.

omar little, Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

please stop making fun of the joker itt. when you laugh at the joker, you are just feeding into his insane plan.

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 31 August 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

good review

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

love the bathos of the editorially demanded "B+" at the end tbqh

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

When fight club came out the reviewer in my local paper wrote the most hilariously ott hook-line-and-sinker review, like “this film will change America forever, within 6 months there will be fight clubs like this in every city and town, everything you thought you knew is about to change.” Some of the reviews remind me of that, like “will America be able to handle the edgy truths that this film is about to redpill us all with?”

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 1 September 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link

If that movie does well, I guess we can expect 'Network' starring the Riddler, 'Serpico' with Bane and 'Persona' starring Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn. Who says they aren't making original movies for grown ups anymore?

— Alex Winter (@Winter) September 1, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

excellent!!

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

It’s a movie from the director of The Hangover and Road Trip, featuring the guy with the lisp from Gladiator, as a character from Suicide Squad. Colour me excited

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 September 2019 08:03 (four years ago) link

has anyone seen it yet

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link

wonder if it might be good, like

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 08:50 (four years ago) link

a good movie

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

watch the trailer. the movie is a longer version of it.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Monday, 2 September 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link

this is one f*cked up clown

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 2 September 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link

this clown is insane, and this time...he has a posse

violent j(oaquin) IS the joker

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Monday, 2 September 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link

big reveal is that wacky Joe Kerr from down the block has a funny side
and you wouldn't like him when he's funny

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

It’s a movie from the director of The Hangover and Road Trip, featuring the guy with the lisp from Gladiator, as a character from Suicide Squad. Colour me excited

I _really_ liked two of the documentaries he made: Hated and Frat House. Old School and The Hangover are also good.

Is there any comic stuff in this? For example, Batman?

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

I’ll have you know Batman is very serious

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

y so?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

I for one am excited to finally at long last learn the origins of the joker, which up to now have been kept secret and shrouded in mystery

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

Wait, so this is supposed to be the same character from the Batman universe? Whoa. Now you have my attention, Johnny Cash.

pplains, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

Holy shit I just thought this was about the Steve Miller Band song.

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

It's about the pompitous of love and the havoc it wrecks on the forgotten man.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

and the CROWN prince of CRIME heehehehehehheehheeahahahahahahhHAHAHA!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

I really think everything about this movie is enraging horseshit.

We do not need to humanize the goddamned fucking Joker.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

It's just a clown.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link

Like literally give me a movie of Jared Leto's Joker from Suicide Squad stomping on puppies for 2.5 hours over this nonsense

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

At what point do the majority shareholders of WB begin questioning the wisdom of their portfolio, is a question I occasionally find myself asking

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

This joaker is one twisted mf and that's no 'joke'

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

We do not need to humanize the goddamned fucking Joker.

this is what was so good about the "Did I ever tell you how I got my scars?" bit in the Ledger movie: the first time you hear it, you're drawn in -- you want to humanize the Joker, he's there to help you do that. and then when he tells a different story the next time, you as the viewer are supposed to go "oh lol @ me, this guy is obviously a sadistic asshole, do not try to get the 'two sides to every story' bit on him"

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

It's just... The Joker isn't a sad character. He is not a character that should be pitied or identified with. He is not a downtrodden soul bent and misshapen by a cruel, uncaring world into a vengeful monster. He's a vengeful monster because he wants to be one. He destroys things because he can. He hurts and kills because it's fun. He is screaming, unchecked id driven by cunning and malevolence, which is why Ledger's version worked so well. Turning him into a sad little man with so many problems and setbacks and issues that he couldn't help but turn into a monster in response is not only a fundamental misunderstanding of the character; it lets him off the hook by inviting you to rationalize why he became what he is and allows you to think that it's possible to redeem him.

I don't care how Comic Book Guy I'm coming across as here because every review talking about how this movie is likely to be an incel rallying cry resonates strongly with every vibe I've picked up off this movie from the trailers and, given where the entirety of western civilization has been going over the past 5 years, I do have some actual, legitimate concerns about whether shit like this will make the world worse for me and my kids.

xp: YES EXACTLY JCLC

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

I've seen it suggested in several reviews that there's a satirical undercurrent to the film. The problem being that we're living in a post-satirical world filled with people who lack the critical faculties to differentiate satire from a call to arms.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

xpost JCLC otm

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

It's funny how they pulled that "naughty liberals hunting down MAGA chuds" movie in case it was a bad influence but this is like "here you go scumbags knock yourselves out"

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

Every review I've read of this has not mentioned satire and in fact has said the movie's lack of a clear POV seriously undermines whatever positives the movie has.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

I've seen it suggested in several reviews that there's a satirical undercurrent to the film. The problem being that we're living in a post-satirical world filled with people who lack the critical faculties to differentiate satire from a call to arms.

I mean, people took Natural Born Killers at face value; we've been in a post-satirical world for at least the entirety of my adult life

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

I'm just so fucking tired of comic book movies

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

i'm wondering what the movie-themed beer at the local brewhouse/cinema will be. a sour would be truly twisted

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/b4inf0n.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link

A N A R C H Y G R A P H I C S

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

WEISS SO SERIOUS

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

at this point 'the joker' as a character no longer exists in any meaningful way, its a costume

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

just like masculinity

j., Tuesday, 3 September 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

i have a sinking feeling that some nutbag is going to use the opening of this film to shoot up a movie theater again.

akm, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link


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