Follow-ups that could almost be part twos of classic albums

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Alien Lanes is completely different animal than Bee Thousand and to conflate the two is pure laziness

calstars, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

xp think you're right about the Nick Cave albums

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

murmur/reckoning

My turn to disagree; these are v distinct

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

X, Hendrix: totally wrong. Huge leaps made in both cases.

The second Kvelertak album is literally called Mer (“more” in Norwegian) and it’s pretty much a clone of the debut - same producer and everything. Also, how am I the first person to mention the first three Ramones albums, which might as well have been the product of a single marathon session?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

xp chronic town / murmur are more similar imo, but there's even a significant progression between those two

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

All the Mazzy Star albums (thanks PBKR for the prompt)

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

Peeps be stretchin itt

calstars, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

challenge: propose album companions that were not made sequentially. example: the Manics' Holy Bible and Journal for Plague Lovers

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

First Cheap Trick v different from second and third imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link

xp Bat Out of Hell I, II, & III(?)

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link

I feel like that's cheating, but then again I kinda did too

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link

see also Harvest and Harvest Moon

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

idk Parklife is classic, The Great Escape scattered and wholly subpar imo

world's #1 piece of shit (rip van wanko), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

well yeah, but MLIR->Parklife->TGE are structurally and tonally very connected, I don't think that can be denied

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

the s/t and 13 feel like a combo as well, the "American" records

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

Musick to Play in the Dark wasn't presented as a Volume 1 when it was released as far as I know, (although The Wire listed it as such near the top of their year-end poll in 1999). When Volume 2 came out a year later it seemed like an augmentation of its brilliance

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

Toys > Rocks maybe, maybe

calstars, Friday, 30 August 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

The Boatman's Call and No More Shall We Part

otm

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 30 August 2019 04:22 (four years ago) link

Suffer + No Control

ArchCarrier, Friday, 30 August 2019 07:40 (four years ago) link

Seventeen Seconds and Faith, in fact they released those in America as a double album called Happily Ever After.

Bee OK, Friday, 30 August 2019 08:07 (four years ago) link

Disagree with 90% of these. Even on Trout Mask/Decals, which I agree with, Decals has one guitar instead of two, has two drummers on some tracks and marimba on others and was 'arranged' by Zoot Horn Rollo instead of Drumbo.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 30 August 2019 08:14 (four years ago) link

Tom is correct. If these were, in fact, double albums, they wouldn't feel of a piece in most instances.

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link

Tusk feels like a natural extension of Rumors to me.

I'd say the 1975 s/t and Rumours make a better pair but I don't know if I'm just reaching because of the very similar cover art (think that plays a big part in me mentally grouping albums together in general).

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 August 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link

17 Seconds and Faith utterly different records to me, in sound, mood and content

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 30 August 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

Metallica have done this twice - Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are pretty much mirror images of each other, and then there's Load/ReLoad, in which case a lot of the tracks were literally leftovers from the earlier sessions that they reworked (sometimes a lot, sometimes not very much) after touring the first album.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 30 August 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link

Also, how am I the first person to mention the first three Ramones albums, which might as well have been the product of a single marathon session?

Came to post this, but a little too late I guess.

The (first great) Miles Davis Quintet actually did release four separate albums recorded in one giant session, Cookin’, Relaxin’, Workin’ and Steamin’.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 August 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

John Martyn: Sold Air / Inside Out.

Also Ziggy /Aladdin Sane maybe

fetter, Friday, 30 August 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

Scritti Politti: Cupid & Psyche 85 + Provision

Bloody Snail, Friday, 30 August 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

I don't agree w the Built to Spill ones tbh

Yeah, you're right.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 30 August 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

#1 Record/Radio City. I heard them first on the two-fer CD and it's just one big album to me.


Maybe it’s because I heard #1 Record a few months before hearing Radio City, but I’ve never been able to hear them as anything but completely separate and distinct entities. It’s not just the presence of Chris Bell on the first record; the arrangements and harmonies are much more lush and expansive, and the drum sound is ‘70s close-miked (whereas on Radio City it’s a very live, cracky Glyn Johns drum sound).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link

Yes, that's another one I don't agree with.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 30 August 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

Black Saint and the Sinner Lady and Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus, but may be cheating as a few of the tracks on the latter album were recorded during the Black Saint sessions.

city worker, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

The second and third This Mortal Coil albums are like this (the first one is more of a stand-alone kind of thing).

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

Savage Republic Customs to Jamhiriya. Slightly different instrumentation thanks to difference in location.
Has one track that's a bit of a reworking

Stevolende, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

Disagree with 90% of these. Even on Trout Mask/Decals, which I agree with, Decals has one guitar instead of two, has two drummers on some tracks and marimba on others and was 'arranged' by Zoot Horn Rollo instead of Drumbo.


Just want to point out that the OP doesn’t say the two records need sound exactly the same... it says In some of these cases the follow-up album feels almost like a more *extreme* version of the classic album, which suggests room for variation.

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

TV on the Radio -- Dear Science and Nine Types of Light. The latter is not as consistently creative as the former, but they are of a piece in terms of the overall sound, and the high points on NToL are just about as high as those of Science.

I don't see much talk about TVotR on ILM - how do folks around here rate them?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

The Who does not have a classic/follow-up in their discography, but if all their planned/cancelled albums were released at the time, they'd have several: Sell Out followed by Who's For Tennis; Who's Next followed by Rock Is Dead -- Long Live Rock (or just any collection of all the '71-'72 singles, b-sides, and Who's Next leftovers); maybe even Tommy followed by the 7ft. Wide Car, 6ft. Wide Garage EP.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

i mean if you ignore lifehouse/who's next, tommy to quadrophenia seems to fit

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

kinda agree w Tom D here tbh most of these nominations make no sense to me

Οὖτις, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

the ones that make the most sense are the irish twin albums that come out within 12 months of each other and had some songs recorded at the same sessions

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

i mean if you ignore lifehouse/who's next, tommy to quadrophenia seems to fit

― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, August 30, 2019 11:04 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I dunno, they sound pretty different -- Tommy is austere compared to Quadrophenia's synth- and horn-heavy arrangements. I actually think Tommy and the cancelled 1970 EP is a stretch, as the EP tracks have more electric guitar than all of Tommy.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

Some members of The Band considered Big Pink and "the brown album" to be basically the same album.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

xp yeah i don't actually think tommy/quad fits, but i was thinking of it asa hollywood-type blockbuster sequel (bigger, longer, etc)

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I can see it from that perspective. And that was part of the original intention of Lifehouse, to make an exponentially more ambitious and larger-scale Tommy-type project.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

Sgt Pepper/Magical Mystery Tour

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

?

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Kimono My House -> Propaganda makes a lot of sense

frogbs, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

Yes to the Band and the Beatles.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 30 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

The almost complete absence of Chris Bell on Radio City kind of makes the first two Big Star records seem quite as much of a unit IMO

PaulTMA, Friday, 30 August 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

"I don't see much talk about TVotR on ILM - how do folks around here rate them?"

I love them, I think there's a fair number of people who feel the same. They only release an album every three years or so though and they're not huge so there isn't tons of active discussion on them.

akm, Friday, 30 August 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

Another version of this would be "albums you got used to listening to on a single CD but which wouldn't otherwise sound like they should fit together" - for me The Soft Machine / Volume Two

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

Spirit of Eden -> Laughing Stock

Duke, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers – Damn the Torpedoes/Hard Promises

whalemusic, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

ZZ Top - Eliminator and Afterburner

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

The first two Magnetic Fields albums feel like this though the later album is perhaps a bit more jaunty. They obviously encouraged this impression by making the CD edition a twofer almost immediately. (And then by having Merritt finally singing his own songs by the third album.)

Also the artwork is super similar!

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Fleetwood Mac: Future Games -> Bare Trees

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link

the first two david axelrod albums —song of innocence + songs of experience— fit here pretty well.

bill evans has a couple, but i'm not sure if it's cheating to include them, as they were recorded at the same time and then split up into single lps later. the ones i'm thinking of are:
sunday at the village vanguard + waltz for debby
moonbeams + how my heart sings

would also like to mention some curtis mayfield in the form of:
back to the world + sweet exorcist (+ arguably even got to find a way)
and obviously curtis + roots

and finally, adrian borland and the sound:
shock of daylight + heads and hearts

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

Swordfishtrombones...Rain Dogs

fetter, Saturday, 7 September 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

This came to mind last night, though it doesn't fit squarely within the parameters of this discussion: The Cult's Electric and the first Danzig album sound and feel like two chapters of the same story.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

Cultosaurus Erectus and Fire Of Unknown Origin

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

The Cult's Electric and the first Danzig album sound and feel like two chapters of the same story.

I've always felt similarly about Primal Scream's XTRMNTR and David Holmes' Bow Down to the Exit Sign.

fetter, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

How about the One Dove album as a sequel to Screamadelica?

Mark G, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

surely the sequel to XTRMNTR is Evil Heat?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

XTRMNTR was already kind of a sequel to Vanishing Point.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

Dan Lissvik’s 7Trx & Taken By Trees - East of Eden

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

why are you all so bad at this?

Talk Talk "Spirit of Eden" and "Laughingstock"

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

see Duke's post a week ago!

Dan S, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link

ah sorry I was control+f'ing Talk Talk

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

Boston --> Don't Look Back

Lee626, Monday, 9 September 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link


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