Follow-ups that could almost be part twos of classic albums

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X fits there too I think

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 August 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link

Built to Spill's Perfect From Now On and Keep It Like a Secret? Although I would switch the order of which one was part 1 and 2.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 29 August 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

Wholeheartedly disagree with the VdGG suggestion upthread.

― van dyke parks generator (anagram)

idk "la rossa" was literally recorded during the godbluff sessions, right?

not an album but "easy to slip away" is a "part two" to "refugees"

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Thursday, 29 August 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

The Jimi Hendrix Experience: Are You Experienced? followed by Axis: Bold As Love.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

I wouldn't put Television's Adventure in this category - not bc I think it pales in comparison to MM, but it's got a very different sound & feel to my ears

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 30 August 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

1st 2 B52s albums are pretty perfect for this though - I can never remember which songs are on which record

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 30 August 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link

#1 Record/Radio City. I heard them first on the two-fer CD and it's just one big album to me.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 30 August 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link

^good one

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 August 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

it was my experience too hearing them first on the CD that combined the two

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 01:33 (four years ago) link

American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead ftw imo

tobo73, Friday, 30 August 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link

those do seem like companion classic albums

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link

first three Cheap Trick albums

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link

murmur/reckoning

mookieproof, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link

I don't agree w the Built to Spill ones tbh

I did always feel a strong connection btwn The Boatman's Call and No More Shall We Part, like the latter is a sort of burrowed elaboration of the formee

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link

Alien Lanes is completely different animal than Bee Thousand and to conflate the two is pure laziness

calstars, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

xp think you're right about the Nick Cave albums

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

murmur/reckoning

My turn to disagree; these are v distinct

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

X, Hendrix: totally wrong. Huge leaps made in both cases.

The second Kvelertak album is literally called Mer (“more” in Norwegian) and it’s pretty much a clone of the debut - same producer and everything. Also, how am I the first person to mention the first three Ramones albums, which might as well have been the product of a single marathon session?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

xp chronic town / murmur are more similar imo, but there's even a significant progression between those two

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

All the Mazzy Star albums (thanks PBKR for the prompt)

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

Peeps be stretchin itt

calstars, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

challenge: propose album companions that were not made sequentially. example: the Manics' Holy Bible and Journal for Plague Lovers

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

First Cheap Trick v different from second and third imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 30 August 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link

xp Bat Out of Hell I, II, & III(?)

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link

I feel like that's cheating, but then again I kinda did too

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link

see also Harvest and Harvest Moon

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

idk Parklife is classic, The Great Escape scattered and wholly subpar imo

world's #1 piece of shit (rip van wanko), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

well yeah, but MLIR->Parklife->TGE are structurally and tonally very connected, I don't think that can be denied

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

the s/t and 13 feel like a combo as well, the "American" records

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

Musick to Play in the Dark wasn't presented as a Volume 1 when it was released as far as I know, (although The Wire listed it as such near the top of their year-end poll in 1999). When Volume 2 came out a year later it seemed like an augmentation of its brilliance

Dan S, Friday, 30 August 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

Toys > Rocks maybe, maybe

calstars, Friday, 30 August 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

The Boatman's Call and No More Shall We Part

otm

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 30 August 2019 04:22 (four years ago) link

Suffer + No Control

ArchCarrier, Friday, 30 August 2019 07:40 (four years ago) link

Seventeen Seconds and Faith, in fact they released those in America as a double album called Happily Ever After.

Bee OK, Friday, 30 August 2019 08:07 (four years ago) link

Disagree with 90% of these. Even on Trout Mask/Decals, which I agree with, Decals has one guitar instead of two, has two drummers on some tracks and marimba on others and was 'arranged' by Zoot Horn Rollo instead of Drumbo.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 30 August 2019 08:14 (four years ago) link

Tom is correct. If these were, in fact, double albums, they wouldn't feel of a piece in most instances.

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link

Tusk feels like a natural extension of Rumors to me.

I'd say the 1975 s/t and Rumours make a better pair but I don't know if I'm just reaching because of the very similar cover art (think that plays a big part in me mentally grouping albums together in general).

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 August 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link

17 Seconds and Faith utterly different records to me, in sound, mood and content

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 30 August 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

Metallica have done this twice - Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are pretty much mirror images of each other, and then there's Load/ReLoad, in which case a lot of the tracks were literally leftovers from the earlier sessions that they reworked (sometimes a lot, sometimes not very much) after touring the first album.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 30 August 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link

Also, how am I the first person to mention the first three Ramones albums, which might as well have been the product of a single marathon session?

Came to post this, but a little too late I guess.

The (first great) Miles Davis Quintet actually did release four separate albums recorded in one giant session, Cookin’, Relaxin’, Workin’ and Steamin’.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 August 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

John Martyn: Sold Air / Inside Out.

Also Ziggy /Aladdin Sane maybe

fetter, Friday, 30 August 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

Scritti Politti: Cupid & Psyche 85 + Provision

Bloody Snail, Friday, 30 August 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

I don't agree w the Built to Spill ones tbh

Yeah, you're right.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 30 August 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

#1 Record/Radio City. I heard them first on the two-fer CD and it's just one big album to me.


Maybe it’s because I heard #1 Record a few months before hearing Radio City, but I’ve never been able to hear them as anything but completely separate and distinct entities. It’s not just the presence of Chris Bell on the first record; the arrangements and harmonies are much more lush and expansive, and the drum sound is ‘70s close-miked (whereas on Radio City it’s a very live, cracky Glyn Johns drum sound).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link

Yes, that's another one I don't agree with.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 30 August 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

Black Saint and the Sinner Lady and Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus, but may be cheating as a few of the tracks on the latter album were recorded during the Black Saint sessions.

city worker, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

The second and third This Mortal Coil albums are like this (the first one is more of a stand-alone kind of thing).

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

Savage Republic Customs to Jamhiriya. Slightly different instrumentation thanks to difference in location.
Has one track that's a bit of a reworking

Stevolende, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

Disagree with 90% of these. Even on Trout Mask/Decals, which I agree with, Decals has one guitar instead of two, has two drummers on some tracks and marimba on others and was 'arranged' by Zoot Horn Rollo instead of Drumbo.


Just want to point out that the OP doesn’t say the two records need sound exactly the same... it says In some of these cases the follow-up album feels almost like a more *extreme* version of the classic album, which suggests room for variation.

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

TV on the Radio -- Dear Science and Nine Types of Light. The latter is not as consistently creative as the former, but they are of a piece in terms of the overall sound, and the high points on NToL are just about as high as those of Science.

I don't see much talk about TVotR on ILM - how do folks around here rate them?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

XP John Fry claimed about a third of Radio City was Chris co-writes that he declined to take credit for.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

Thanks. Was just about to make another pass through the Bruce Eaton 33 1/3 book on Radio City to refresh my memory about things like that.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

Chris co-wrote “O My Soul” and “Back Of A Car” but, in what John Fry describes as “horsetrading,” Chris gave full credit to Alex in return for keeping full credit on two other songs, “There’s A Light” and “Got Kind Of Lost.” Chris later sent a letter to John Fry asking for credit on “those two songs” but didn’t say which, although Andy and Alex knew. All four songs were recorded on an early Radio City demo that went missing.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 August 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link

Both of those last two, all four songs actually, can be heard on the Live At Lafayette’s Music Room album which came out last year.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

I think some of those demos popped up on the box set (alongside that concert).

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah. Wonder if those are the same initial demos that were supposed to have been erased or later ones.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

Stevie Wonder - Talking Book / Innervisions.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 September 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

The first two Magnetic Fields albums feel like this though the later album is perhaps a bit more jaunty. They obviously encouraged this impression by making the CD edition a twofer almost immediately. (And then by having Merritt finally singing his own songs by the third album.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

What about the first two Stooges LPs? genuine q, I don't really know them that well but as a teen I had this compilation that conflated them into one LP which felt pretty consistent.

umsworth (emsworth), Monday, 2 September 2019 09:17 (four years ago) link

The second Tindersticks album seems to fit into that scheme. More of the same but not quite as good, one obvious reason being that the sound wasn't new anymore.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

Kraftwerk 1 / Kraftwerk 2

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

The first two Stooges albums feel fairly distinct to me in terms of rhythmic feel, production quality, and even instrumentation (sax on the latter album, some piano and viola on the earlier one).

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

Achtung Baby/Zooropa

Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

Stevie Wonder - Talking Book / Innervisions.

I always mentally group Innervisions with Fulfillingness' First Finale because the cover art styles are similar.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

Another version of this would be "albums you got used to listening to on a single CD but which wouldn't otherwise sound like they should fit together" - for me The Soft Machine / Volume Two

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

Spirit of Eden -> Laughing Stock

Duke, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers – Damn the Torpedoes/Hard Promises

whalemusic, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

ZZ Top - Eliminator and Afterburner

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

The first two Magnetic Fields albums feel like this though the later album is perhaps a bit more jaunty. They obviously encouraged this impression by making the CD edition a twofer almost immediately. (And then by having Merritt finally singing his own songs by the third album.)

Also the artwork is super similar!

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Fleetwood Mac: Future Games -> Bare Trees

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link

the first two david axelrod albums —song of innocence + songs of experience— fit here pretty well.

bill evans has a couple, but i'm not sure if it's cheating to include them, as they were recorded at the same time and then split up into single lps later. the ones i'm thinking of are:
sunday at the village vanguard + waltz for debby
moonbeams + how my heart sings

would also like to mention some curtis mayfield in the form of:
back to the world + sweet exorcist (+ arguably even got to find a way)
and obviously curtis + roots

and finally, adrian borland and the sound:
shock of daylight + heads and hearts

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

Swordfishtrombones...Rain Dogs

fetter, Saturday, 7 September 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

This came to mind last night, though it doesn't fit squarely within the parameters of this discussion: The Cult's Electric and the first Danzig album sound and feel like two chapters of the same story.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

Cultosaurus Erectus and Fire Of Unknown Origin

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

The Cult's Electric and the first Danzig album sound and feel like two chapters of the same story.

I've always felt similarly about Primal Scream's XTRMNTR and David Holmes' Bow Down to the Exit Sign.

fetter, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

How about the One Dove album as a sequel to Screamadelica?

Mark G, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

surely the sequel to XTRMNTR is Evil Heat?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

XTRMNTR was already kind of a sequel to Vanishing Point.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

Dan Lissvik’s 7Trx & Taken By Trees - East of Eden

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

why are you all so bad at this?

Talk Talk "Spirit of Eden" and "Laughingstock"

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

see Duke's post a week ago!

Dan S, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link

ah sorry I was control+f'ing Talk Talk

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

Boston --> Don't Look Back

Lee626, Monday, 9 September 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link


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