News at 10 is going pretty hard on this. First 3 reax: Hammond, Corbyn, Sturgeon. Later a quite shifty close-up on Gove.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
not sure this is strictly relevant to the immediate editorial position of the News at Ten but the BBC have a fair bit to fear from a Johnson led government. noises already are that he would put public pressure on them to avoid charging over 75s (never mind that this was a complete stitch-up by the government/Osborne, to which the BBC should never have agreed.) While they’re already looking at moderate reductions this would blow a massive hole in their budget.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
The DG has already made the decision. It will be means-tested. Balls's in govt's court now on whether to top that up.Christ the people they find on these shows. "There's a little core of politicians in Parliament who are throwing their rattles out of the pram and trying to stop what WE voted for. Boris is absolutely right - let him get on with it!"There does seem to be an endless supply of these people.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
I cannot help imagining every cunt who voted for this shit and still goes on about "get on with it" having their faces rubbed in it, I know this is probably not a reasonable or mature position, but at this point, yup.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
yeah it's a fuck off to the Irish of NI
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
xp they’re all on twitter today, going on about Remainer tears. It’s purely spite driven among some of them now. To nick a horrible phrase off some American journalist: “they’d eat shit so the others have to smell it on their breath”.
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
So genuine question, are Parliament going to assert their much-vaunted supremacy and decline to be prorogued or are they going to say "oh well, we're supreme except we can be deconstituted at will by the hereditary monarch" and go home
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
lol govt still not providing anyone for Newsnight. no credibility! (for Newsnight)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
xp suspect they’ll fiddle us all off the cliff (none of the Tory rebels will do so). But I love to be proved wrong!
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
xp I see Kirsty Wark is still saving the majority of her contempt for when she says the words "Jeremy Corbyn" though
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
#AbolishTheMonarchy is no.1 Trending on UK Twitter now lol
― help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
lads if ye play yere cards right ye could get out of the EU under corbyn and be rid of boris and liz in time for all souls
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
how much of a fucking braindead fbpe centrist-melt cunt do you have to be to be republicanism-curious for the first time due to the queen fulfilling a ceremonial function?
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
I’m not searching for that fpbe tweet about someone hoping the Ra would assassinate Boris cos Brexit, but that’s probably yr peak.
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
a pity there wasn't more of this sentiment about when the parasitic lowlifes were getting a hugely expensive refurb whilst etc... etc...
― calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
Look at this stage in the game we take the laughs where we can get them.
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
our next monarch's brother is an epstein-adjacent paedophile on the public's pound and his uncle/mentor was a pederast = cool, fine
liz didn't tell boris to do one: let's get the guillotines out.
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link
Then again, we also tend to lazily refer to the whole thing as 'England', which I imagine can be quite infuriating (see also: Holland)..
D'ye reckon? Anyway, I'm Paris right now and had to sit there stony faced and say, "I'm not English", twice, when my companion said to a waitress, "How did you know we were English,".
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link
The... the FT is calling for a Corbyn-led GNU. No matter what you think of GNUs (not a fan), something has changed. https://t.co/t0zzMF6y9I— Kuba Stawiski 🇵🇱 (@kayes67) August 28, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
Whaaat no soul-crushingly "whimsical" arts package from Stephen Smith??
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
Sorry just got thrown there for a minute!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
Gnus, voncs, is UK politics growing up at last?
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
Tracer, for your dose of whimsy have some muppets singing the Gnu song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGVdCGxh1IY
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
shadow cabinet of a gnuman
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
how much of a fucking braindead fbpe centrist-melt cunt do you have to be to be republicanism-curious for the first time due to the queen fulfilling a ceremonial function?― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 bookmarkflaglink
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 bookmarkflaglink
Never mind yer centrist melt but its good if the outcome of today is that The Queen gets...cancelled. We are all saying that its tough to get any kind of civic education (and various factors contribute to that state of affairs), but if today is an education for many then its to the good.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
GNU GNU, wretched GNUBut it’s that or the fucking coup
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
"the monarchy should have been abolished after Diana died tbh" lool
pics of Jimmy Savile chilling with Charles
various nazis with Windsors, sieg heiling Liz, pics of guillotines, pics of someone giving a finger to Buckingham Palace
it's predictable but fun trawling the new wave of fbpe-republican twitter tonight!
― calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
is brexit good now
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
Sinn Fein condemn the fact that MPs will not be attending Parliament from 10 Sept until 14 Oct! But Sinn Fein do not attend any day!!!!!— Lord John Kilclooney (@KilclooneyJohn) August 28, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
This fucking crewhttps://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/boris-johnson-brexit-extreme-measures
― stet, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
I don't really understand how Boris expects to survive a no deal Brexit politically, does anyone wanna explain that to me?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
(full disclosure I do follow this thread but find most of it bafflingly if charmingly incomprehensible)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
(same)
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
I genuinely can’t decide between “people like Cummings are Bannon-style first-you-must-destroy-it zealots who want out and don’t care the cost the little people have to pay and even if they do lose an election ehhh Labour can pick up the pieces who gives a shit we’ll be out” and “they really know it would be bad but have backed into a corner because Brexit was always incoherent and they’re trapped but this is 5-D chess to get an election they might win”.
― stet, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link
looking like a complete idiot bowing to the Queen how do ppl put up with this shit
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
just all the bowing, it's an affront to human dignity
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
Re:Boris, assuming the plan is (1) hold an election, get a majority, sit on it for 5 years til the storm has passed and (2) find some good scapegoats for the disaster and get them blamed as soon as it happens.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
(1) hold an election, get a majority,
how is this remotely feasible in the middle of an economic collapse/crisis caused by the ruling party
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
hold it five days after No Deal day before the impact has been felt/people & still have their medicines/enough food in the cupboards.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
it does seem ridiculous, yes, but also it could work, they currently have a decent lead in the polls and he could suck up some of those Brexit party votes if he looks tough enough
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
and I thought the people in *my* country were stupid
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link
I've watched vox pops of people saying "get on with it" for three years now, hard to have any faith in the sound judgement of british voters
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
Yeah, if the next election isn't just before or close enough to Our Independence Day for Blame the EU and "this is only temporary please reward us for delivering Brexit", they surely will struggle. So Labour would be wise to block an instant election, you'd think.
Repercussions of pulling off Brexit in this way are going to be very long-term, though. It was one (reckless) thing for May to utterly discount losers' consent back when they were talking about a negotiated exit, but for Johnson to steal the hardest of Brexits in blatantly underhand ways is another. You maybe please the chipshop voxpops in English beach towns, but you permanently alienate a huge swathe, especially Remain voters who might have gone along with a negotiated Brexit.
What does the long-term political landscape look like after such a heist? One possibility is the Tories will be left trying to corral power by combining an aging and overheated base with those floaters who will respond to necessarily populist rhetoric. I don't know enough about American politics, but it doesn't sound wildly different to the situation I think the Republicans are in now. Well done, everybody.
― stet, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
Tracer, we did get a cartoon of Paul Mason calling for civil disobedience, then actual Paul Mason in a suit.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link
Why was paul mason in cartoon form? That was odd.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 29 August 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link
I think that's the filter used by the person videoing it on their phone
― stet, Thursday, 29 August 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
Look, if you could hurry up with the pound tanking, I've got some books to order from the UK.
― And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Thursday, 29 August 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link
Seriously. I’m waiting for the big drop to pay off my student loan (now 20 years old)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 29 August 2019 01:33 (four years ago) link
Also, xpost to is the Guardian bad thread, but they do a live blog for a Trump fart, but not this?
― And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Thursday, 29 August 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link
The had a live blog all day on the homepage.
It was not nearly as great as this thread.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:56 (four years ago) link