I wish Taylor Swift had covered the Killers' "The Man."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 August 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
Fuck me if this lump in the throat I get from "Cornelia Street" doesn't get bigger every time.
― cpl593H, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
haven't messed with sequencing but my abridged version is almost the exact same song selection (just minus the man) xxp
― petey v, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
"the man" has been stuck in my head since friday i think it's undeniable
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
the verses & bridge on the man don't really work for me :/ at least not yet
― petey v, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
Having trouble tracking the political metaphor in “Miss Americana...”. Who exactly is the “Heartbreak Prince” – is it, like, America itself?
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
HE LOOKS UP, GRINNING LIKE A DEVIL
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 26 August 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link
Re: Miss Americana, that one confuses me too. It seems to switch back and forth between being about America - "crazier for you than I was at sixteen," "I think you should come home" - and being about someone specific - "you are the only one who seems to care."
I like that she calls herself "Miss Americana," though, it's clever.
― Lily Dale, Monday, 26 August 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
“Daylight” kind of uses the same closing-track trick as “Clean” (from 1989)... it’s a good song, though, I like the bridge with that warbly background vocal.Some of these songs reach for the same “refined ‘80s pop” sound as 1989, maybe even to better results. I can’t get over how good “False God” is, both the music and lyric — it’s like the coolest song playing in a late-night, uptown NYC sushi bar / disco in the late Eighties.
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link
the chorus melody of "the man" sounds like it was thought up by danielle haim. that's about its only redeeming feature.
"i think he knows" would've been my pick for the first single, but i think "false god" is my firm favourite. a subtle sophistipop song possibly about cunnilingus on a taylor swift album? loving that concept!
also really like "it's nice to have a friend"
― monotony, Monday, 26 August 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
"paper rings" is perfect imo
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 26 August 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link
i just caught the line "i used to think love would be burning red" in "daylight" and got v emotional
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
the 80s pop sound was way better on 1989, like 1989 wasn't the best sounding pop album or anything but it still has much richer sounding production than this album
― ufo, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
1989 had the benefit of Martin/Shellback; but it also didn’t have anything like “False God.”
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link
"you are in love" wasn't too far off and better at the specific thing it does than "false god" is at its sophisti sound
― ufo, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link
not enough love for "Soon You'll Get Better" and "Death by a Thousand Cuts."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link
― ufo, Monday, August 26, 2019 6:31 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
"you are in love" sounds like "secret garden" by bruce springsteen, i think they're different targets
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link
"death by a thousand cuts" may be my favorite pop taylor swift song, feels like she mastered something there
the slightly off-rhythm guitar!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link
not enough love for "Soon You'll Get Better" and "Death by a Thousand Cuts.""Soon You'll Get Better" is well done, but a little hard to discuss/evaluate (due to lyrical content).
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link
on the contrary it's for her a model of restraint, even the Jesus mention
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link
"Death By A Thousand Cuts" is mostly v good but the bit about getting lost in a "haunted club" (?) and "our songs, our films, united we stand" etc is very odd to me
― monotony, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link
Something for everyone I guess, Miss Americana might actually be my favorite. Best lyric on the whole album: “You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes”
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
^^
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 04:08 (four years ago) link
i uniformly hate the joel little songs on here... me, you need to calm down, miss americana, the man... all terrible. there's something really chintzy and cloying in all those productions. if i'm cutting ones i'm starting there.
"it's nice to have a friend" makes me wonder what the frank dukes/louis bell sessions sounded like when they weren't doing stuff bland spotify pop like "i forgot that you existed"
i need to see if i can get into "afterglow" and "daylight"... it feels like there's one too many songs on this album that remind me of "wildest dreams"
if i'm recutting this album i'm going
1. lover2. cruel summer3. the archer4. i think he knows5. paper rings6. cornelia street7. death by a thousand cuts8. soon you'll get better9. false god10. it's nice to have a friend
still a little too short to be called a properly good album by her standards... maybe if i come around on those other two songs tho
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link
I’ve taken my own stab at an ideal alternate sequence:
1. The Archer2. Death By A Thousand Cuts3. I Think He Knows4. Cruel Summer5. Cornelia Street6. False God7. Soon You’ll Get Better (ft. Dixie Chicks)8. Daylight9. Lover
It’s pretty leaned out, but all in all, you have a dreamier, moodier, more focused and more potent record. There’s the Dixie Chicks track cutting through the fog, and then there’s “Lover” serving as the closer that brings everything back down to blissful reality.
― winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 07:15 (four years ago) link
“Afterglow” would be the B-side
― winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 07:33 (four years ago) link
I'm listening to this album now and i have news:it's good
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 08:00 (four years ago) link
extremely benoit & sergio vibes from much of it!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 08:13 (four years ago) link
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― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 08:20 (four years ago) link
i mean this as the highest compliment: “afterglow” would be a killer amy grant album track
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 09:50 (four years ago) link
I'm finding "I forgot that you existed" somewhat hard to swallow. It's probably her weakest album opener to date... I suppose I've never been a fan of WANEGBT.
But everything from Cruel Summer up to Afterglow really rolls; "London Boy" and "You Need to Calm Down" just a couple bumps in the road. I'd even defend "London Boy" as a kind of companion to "Welcome to NY", another widely ridiculed song portraying a rose-tinted view of a big city. But it's a feeling me, as a tourist, can really relate to. And Xgau pretty much nailed it for me in his 1989 review; all he said about "Welcome" there kind of applies here, to me (though I can concede "London" is weaker than "Welcome")
"The Man" is much better than I expected it to be, and "I Think He Knows" is really great, though it's somewhat buried among the other standouts in a first listen. And "Paper Rings", is it "Stay Stay Stay" part 2?
Production's probably not as...resourceful? than in 1989/Rep. In the sense that it's very clear Antonoff's is not the provider of ideas than Max Martin was. He's less of a source. But he does seem to provide a lot more room for her songwriting to breath here. I've always considered "Speak Now" her strongest and I'm always hoping she, at some point, will go back to fully writing on herself (as she is obviously a better songwriter than all the partners she's had), so this is a welcome change.
― cpl593H, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:25 (four years ago) link
i put it on shuffle and it went archer - cornelia st - death by a thousand cuts - and i am currently an emotional mess
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link
"Death by a thousand cuts" - in my mind is the closest thing she'll ever have to a Mike Garson moment.
― cpl593H, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link
I don’t think “London Boy” requires elaborate defenses; it’s a fine song. There was a trending “Twitter Moment” over the weekend in which Londoners were making fun of it — hanging their hats on the idea that she claims to visit various, far-flung neighborhoods all in the same day, via a circuitous route. Since she never says that in the song, I can only conclude that Londoners need something to complain about!
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
it's definitely worth making fun of, but yeah, the song is fine. it sounds more like a Reputation track than this album, but that's part of the sprawl here. at least she doesn't try to pull off an accent.
― L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
"london boy" would still be pretty bad if the lyrics weren't as embarrassing as they are
― ufo, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
Why are they embarrassing?
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
This 4-different-deluxe-editions-each-with-different-pages-of-diary-entries is one of the great formatting wheezes of recent years. ZTT would be proud
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9R3rLQWwAAWlkt.jpg
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
in order to go to the Paris show in a couple of weeks I bought a different deluxe edition that comes with a tote bag, a phone grip, some temporary tattoos based on images from the "You Need To Calm Down" video, and four pretty big post cards. it cost 40 € but with a ticket to the show included, I'm ok having this goofy junk.
― L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
https://www.difymusic.com/taylorswift
in case anyone cares.
― L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
40€ only for a CD+show ticket ?? That's very cheap !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
yes ! at the Olympia
― L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
I don't even care about her but I may get it just for the opportunity !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
Oh, of course, it's sold out...
I'm suprised she plays at the Olympia : shouldn't she play Bercy or even Stade de France or is she not that big in France ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
she played the Zenith in 2011 but it didn't sell out and she's not played France since. This show is mostly for promotion; there are 200 tickets being sold along with those boxes, and there's a loterie for some other tickets; but I think it'll be a lot of radio people there who she's trying to charm into playing her stuff & breaking her here. I don't think she's yet very popular here; the review in Libération yesterday was characteristically blasé.
― L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
Bizarre.Ariana is playing at Bercy tonight... and tomorrow !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
looking at her previous chart positions the best she's ever charted in France was #9 with 1989 (Red was 30, Reputation was 16), so yeah she doesn't seem to be very popular in France, at least not compared to most of the world which wpuld make touring there not a good prospect for her. it seems like the only time she's really toured Europe was the Speak Now tour - more recently she's only played the UK and Ireland consistently, with some dates in Germany and the Netherlands but nowhere else.
― ufo, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link
Beyoncé played the Stade de France with Jay-Z last summer. it's not like American music is unpopular here. & yet Swift struggles. I reckon it's that Swift was a country artist, and there's absolutely no interest in that here (and not much elsewhere in Europe either).
― L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link