Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

I’m more interested in this than 9

Well well

https://deadline.com/2019/10/star-wars-setback-game-of-thrones-duo-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-exit-trilogy-1202771184/

Yeah had a hunch that wouldn't pan out.

"So anyway, Ms. Kennedy, like we said at the panel, it turns out we weren't remotely qualified or ready and they gave us $6 million an episode anyway!

. . . we'll show ourselves out."

Maybe they were talking about taking out all the space and force and Jedi stuff, and the producers got nervous.

They did a decent enough job after an uneven start of making a fantasy swords and sorcery series into some real HBO bait. Not a very good record of working with a larger writing team or coming up with original material, which is about half of the Star Wars job.

Uh, original material as in plots that aren't pre-written. There's... not a lot of original other material being added to Star Wars.

The only thing that bums me out about this is watching all the keyboard nerd rage warriors tweeting out "WE DID IT!!!", "WE WON!", etc etc ad infinitum.

avoid those comment sections imo

obvs, but those tweets kept popping up in the middle of otherwise reasonable takes on the announcement.

I'm wondering how much synergy they're going to build between the Clone Wars cartoon final season they're dropping after many years that'll include the *drum roll* Siege of Mandalore and the flashbacks to the title character's past in The Mandalorian. Might be some of the same scenes!

they obviously knew they were toast re: Star Wars before the netflix deal came up.

So first they were going to do 'Confederate', but that never got off the ground. Next they were going to do a Star Wars trilogy, but they've given up on that as well. Now they are at Netflix doing... things? People probably need to stop giving these guys money. Oh, and also, how's it going with those seventeen GoT prequel shows?

I thought they were bringing in other showrunners for the GoT prequels, but it's been pretty quiet on that end.

I'll be definitely curious to see what they do for Netflix.

I figure if they adapt a finished book or series, there's a chance it will be good.

Yeah, I mean despite all the rage about the ending, they did do a pretty damn good job of building out Westeros for the first 4-5 seasons.

I'm not sure they'd want to dive back into fantasy already, but I was thinking I wouldn't mind seeing them work with Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive (tho that's dangerous water with a so-far unfinished book series).

yeah but if the same book was adapted by non-idiots it would almost certainly be better

I know it doesn't fit with the tidy narrative going right now, but I don't get this whole repainting of the entire run of GoT as some terrible failure. There were a lot of great seasons before it landed in a steaming pile of shit, and they deserve some of the praise for that.

I just want to take advantage of this digression to mention that I'm just now becoming aware that people were miffed about the GoT ending and that I'm feeling real, real good about having told every GoT cheerleader that I would probably wait and see how they stuck the landing before I gave the show a shot.

(I guess I should have inferred from the cheerleaders' silence after the show wrapped up.)

I just decided to skip the last season. Probably should have also skipped the penultimate season also.

Something can be good without having a good ending.

It's true, many people are awesome even though their end is a rear.

especially television xp

Is the new Rian Johnson trilogy still a thing?

The superfans who chased Kelly Marie Tran off of Twitter sure hope so!

It's very much still a thing.

The show was close to good as long as they just followed what GRRM wrote, and didn't take any important decisions themselves. Then they had to, and it became awful.

The Game of Thrones prequel show at HBO is dead according to what I just read.

RIP, Unstructured Pastime of Thrones

apparently this means there are now no active GoT spin offs. HBO says they still want to do something, but I can see them either 1) waiting several years until nostalgia kicks up 2) just ditching this entirely if they're able to make strides with other series. I"m not sure what happened with this one, the article I read wasn't clear; they had a full staff and a showrunner and everything. Maybe no one was able to write a script.

full cast, I meant.

Maybe no one was able to write a script.

Didn't stop them before.

The whole thing honestly might be toxic at this point. They probably had to commit an insane amount of money to make this new show, and if the connection to GoT wasn't a really positive thing, it might be a really big gamble.

apparently this means there are now no active GoT spin offs.

They announced a new one just yesterday

https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/29/20939230/game-of-thrones-spinofff-series-house-of-the-dragons-ordered-hbo-max

Poll on when it gets cancelled?

Can’t wait to see the subscription model they use to lock folks in before they get a look at it

It seems pretty obvious that the main reason they cancelled the first series because they decided to go with this other series. This idea being thrown around that game of thrones is suddenly really unpopular is a weird one.

Nah. If you've already shot a pilot for one show, hired a full cast and crew, you don't normally go 'but let's do a different series!'.

Probably not, no, but I don't suspect is has anything to do with the franchise being "toxic", otherwise they wouldn't announce another show.

Fair enough. Let's say it's still in the process of becoming toxic. Once they cancel this show as they find out there really isn't enough of a show in Fire & Blood (it's basically hundreds of pages of 'my dragon is bigger than yours!), and then just make a cheap Duncan & Egg buddy comedy, which then fails, THEN we can say it's toxic :)

Still, though. A remarkable amount of bad stories about Benioff & Weiss and GoT this week.

get these damn throne games off my goddamn star wars thread!

A War of Stars. A Strike of Empires. A Return of Jedis.

They reshot and recast the original GoT pilot and HBO have shot plenty of pilots (with starry casts and directors) that haven't been picked up

Doesn't really mean anything that they've decided to go with another GoT show

HOW BOUT THAT MANDALORIAN

was not expecting to see Bill Burr in the trailer but here we are

Whoa, I had somehow missed Taika Waititi's involvement:

Series Directed by
Deborah Chow ... (2 episodes, 2019)
Rick Famuyiwa ... (2 episodes, 2019)
Dave Filoni ... (2 episodes, 2019)
Bryce Dallas Howard ... (1 episode, 2019)
Taika Waititi ... (1 episode, 2019)

he is also the ig-88-style killbot

wow only one of those directors is a white man

ig-88-style killbot

this 1.5 seconds had me the most hyped of any star wars stuff I've seen in ages - I was totally obsessed with IG-88 when I was a kid a and the five seconds of screen time in empire didn't come anywhere close to satisfying me.

Also as someone who has zero knowledge of non-film star wars canon, is carbon freezing for transfer by bounty hunters an actual thing? I always thought it was something they did to han solo out of necessity - like fuck it, we've got this carbon freezer, maybe this will work?

totally. see also, obi-wan's "blast helmet plus lightsaber" one-off from the first film, rendered as a standard three-credit tuesday/thursday class with Yoda in the prequels