PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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same clouds too

michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

The flow chart guy is at it again

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

we have never called the tans the old enemy

True enough.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Auld_Enemy

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 August 2019 06:37 (four years ago) link

This is how these things repeat down the generations, some kids grow up to be inclusive and other kids grow up to be cunts and right now everything in our culture is telling them and their parents that it's basically OK to tell these kids and their families to fuck off.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link

The racism in this place I've always seen as merely repressed - by the fact that the economy was growing, by that liberal attitude of 'tolerance' - it was always there, waiting to come up.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:31 (four years ago) link

there were violent flare ups between Eastern European immigrants and British Asians locally around the time of the referendum, and there are still tensions where the communities cross each other and some of it is criminal gang war related and some of it was definitely stoked up by the right wing media/right wing politicians telling people bigotry/xenophobia/racism is legitimate and justified, either explicitly or in weasel-worded dog whistle speak.

calzino, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:45 (four years ago) link

I probably won't win many friends on here for pointing out that despite getting murdered by a far-right fascist - Jo Cox was one of the many pols disseminating hateful legitimate concerns speak at the time herself - FP me to yr hearts content - but it is the fucking truth!

calzino, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link

As have much of the Labour Party and most of the Lib Dems at one point or another. The failure to defend migrants from Eastern Europe has been consistent - from lamenting Blair/Brown's decision not to delay FOM from accession countries to the 'EU remain and reform agenda' looking to place unworkable restrictions on the right to come to the UK. I'm not sure any of the main parties have much to say to the largest group of new migrants in the country, other than 'freedom of movement was working quite nicely until it allowed you in'. How that changes over the next year or so, if there is a new referendum, will be crucial. It's a question the Labour left will need to answer but as much of an issue for the explicitly Remain faction.

ShariVari, Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link

Revoking art 50 (my option) will have to come with a whole set of measures to tackle economic inequality but also yes a leadership that does not pander to racism and isn't afraid of calling it out, one that will not tolerate it (which could mean tight controls in media reporting). A lot else to be done but that would be a start.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

xxxp I remember reading that some British Asians voted Leave in the hope of stopping immigration from EE and also because they perceived the immigration system to be racist (which is correct). Also Priti Patel telling restaurant owners they could bring in more chefs (implied to be at the expense of migration from Europe) was a motivating factor.

gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link

which is why councils are now having to campaign for an exemption to the visa requirements to bring in chefs from the subcontinent because the existing wage requirement is too fucking high

what's wrong with being centre-y? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:36 (four years ago) link

here's a link that explains it slightly better than my half brain

https://www.bighospitality.co.uk/Article/2019/05/30/Government-advised-to-relax-chef-visa-rules

what's wrong with being centre-y? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

good work Priti

what's wrong with being centre-y? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:44 (four years ago) link

Chefs were also de-listed as a category of ‘skilled migrants’ a while back.

ShariVari, Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

it's almost as if

what's wrong with being centre-y? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 August 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

Yes it was repressed but probably not among actual children to the same extent. Among adults yes obviously, the difference is the level of social acceptability, bigotry flares up more visibly when the wider political culture tells them it's OK.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link

Sorry that was to xyzzz.

Matt DC, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

Lots in this- but perhaps most crucial is where he says he won't vote to bring down the government so long as Johnson is committed to trying to secure a deal. Given PM will say he is til the last moment, Boles (and others like him) prob never will. https://t.co/PquwI3nrJy

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) August 22, 2019

are fbpe ever going to realise they’ve been pressuring the wrong people? No, they’ll be truthering it up about Corbyn wanting no deal while sharing this guys resignation video around with comments like “now THIS is leadership!”

gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

The Tories have been forced to suspend a senior party member after she made a sick jibe about Nicola Sturgeon's miscarriage.https://t.co/SEKcjYcVQy

— The National (@ScotNational) August 22, 2019

would it surprise you to learn that this woman was picked as an audience member who got to ask a question on a taping of question time?

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 August 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

which one?

calzino, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

Had an amazing time at the grand opening of Mr T’s restaurant in Batley, with special guest and heavyweight boxing champion of the world Deontay Wilder 🥊 It’s amazing to see so many businesses choosing Batley to be their home, and for us to welcome a world class athlete. pic.twitter.com/sJI6NFdb66

— Tracy Brabin MP (@TracyBrabin) August 22, 2019

the night Deontay Wilder showed up at an opening of a new fast food restaurant in Batley.

calzino, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

<3 <3 <3

A trial of three Extinction Rebellion activists has just heard a statement provided by @johnmcdonnellMP supporting them.
He says the mass protests in April led directly to MPs in the House of Commons debating and declaring a formal climate and environment emergency.

— Ben Quinn (@BenQuinn75) August 22, 2019

suzy, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

Oh I was wondering why full time hater Jul13 Ann M0ylan was shiting on about him opposing the GFA earlier this evening - hadn’t seen this from him.

gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Ahahahahahaha

EXPRESS: Brexit victory salute! #tomorrowspaperstoday pic.twitter.com/Y6ZFvbm96D

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) August 22, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link

wat.

pomenitul, Friday, 23 August 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link

"hardliner"

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link

It’s not even a Pyrrhic victory.

pomenitul, Friday, 23 August 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link

they didnt even get the ictory never mind the v

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:17 (four years ago) link

we’ve known the WA could be renegotiated ? trouble is it needs a softening of red lines not hardening

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

Hard lines indeed.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link

Body language-wise, that circular snapshot near the bottom-right doesn't exactly scream triumph for Boris. Unless a soft and seductive bashfulness was his strategy all along?

pomenitul, Friday, 23 August 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link

Not exactly his usual seduction technique.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

if i didn't know better i'd almost have thought the quite public merkel/macron pronouncements of a "willingness" to hear backstop alternatives was engineered to provide cover for boris to climb down from his hard-Brexit aerie. of course there is no alternative to the backstop so it means nothing. and if engineered, i'd lay money that it was engineered by merkel/macron, rather than uk, who will squander this little window.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

noble purebred culture war against bastard son harry and his coloured parasite wife continuing as well i see

imago, Friday, 23 August 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

can't wait for chancellor mcdonnell to send the red guard into the express offices

imago, Friday, 23 August 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link

Isn't the problem also that this is in no way what Macron said? It feels to under-slept and over-conspiratorial me like it's the papers (the Telegraph took the same line) laying the ground for "EU Treachery as they renege on their offers of hope"

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 23 August 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

well he said the backstop is indispensable but also said "new UK ideas" had to respect integrity of the single market so.. a backstop-like-thing that one can pretend is not the backstop feels like the goal here

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

(xp) You don't say?

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

He's just going "what's your big idea then?" Merkel sounds more conciliatory but that might just be because she's smarter than Macron.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 August 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link

Playing up to their respective reputations and home audiences, I suspect.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 23 August 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECpec8bW4AEpbn7?format=jpg&name=small

It's more common than you'd think in mammals too. Many rodent mothers may eat some of their young if they're sick, dead, or too numerous to feed.

Bears and lions kill and eat the offspring of adult females to make them more receptive to mating.

Chimpanzees sometimes cannibalise unlucky rivals, usually infants, seemingly for the mere opportunity of some extra protein.

For humans though, cannibalism is the ultimate taboo. In fact, our aversion to cannibalism is so strong that consent and ethics count for little.

they should at least be doing guides to cooking domestic pets, insects and recipes for that bark you've just stripped off a tree in a deranged state of famishment before stanning for the old longpig, but this is the fucking Mail

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

this is relevant to my interests

Andy Jones, Earth-Born Angel of Love (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

i was listening to a 70's Vincent Price narrated horror story about cannibalism t'other day and it reminded me of thee!

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link

genuinely touched tbh

Andy Jones, Earth-Born Angel of Love (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

One thing the "30 days" thing will obviously do is defang the prospects of a no-confidence vote at the start of September.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 23 August 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

Will it be 28 Days Later tomorrow then?

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Friday, 23 August 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link

let's cut to the chase - who is eating who itt

nashwan, Friday, 23 August 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I would make excellent crackling if anybody's interested

what's wrong with being centre-y? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 August 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link


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