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The Bryan Stevenson book 'Just Mercy' has a section on victims' rights. They've led to a disparity of sentencing between races and classes. I haven't read the NYer article yet but it seems to go into that.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

see also: mandatory minimum sentencing, largely pushed by these groups iirc

sleeve, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

Kind of related - mistrial was declared last week in the case of the alt-right shitheads who shot a protester outside a Milo appearance in Seattle, apparently a minority on the jury were of similar mind to the defendants. However a big factor was that the victim refused to testify due to not believing in a punitive justice system, afaik he just wanted to meet with the defendants but I don’t think they agreed.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

I bought a copy of Hasbro's mean-spirited and woefully ill-informed "MONOPOLY: SOCIALISM" board game so you don't have to - a thread 1/ pic.twitter.com/YhZWDjkAnj

— Nick Kapur (@nick_kapur) August 21, 2019

imagine the kind of smug cunt who designed this shit

gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

that Monopoly thing is even more ironic considering the game was originally designed to satirize landlords & capitalism, then was stolen by someone else and turned into a highly profitable board game, none of which made its way to the original creator. capitalism at its finest.

frogbs, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

That Portland Mercury article is actually getting results: Andy Ngo has apparently been disowned by phrenologist site Quillette, where he was on the masthead until a couple of hours ago.

Andy Ngo just removed Quillette from his bio...

... the same day it was revealed that Ngo and the violent far-right group Patriot Prayer had an "understanding" that he would protect them and they'd protect him.

(h/t @Avi_Bueno) pic.twitter.com/WDJRST8EYJ

— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) August 27, 2019

All traces of far-right provoceateur Andy Ngo have been wiped from the far-right phrenology website, Quillette. He doesn’t even have Quillette in his bio anymore. Rumor has it that Andy was fired for paling around with the white nationalist group Patriot Prayer. pic.twitter.com/lo1yC34WfA

— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) August 27, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link

Glorious

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link

Monopoly is also much like capitalism in that it sucks

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link

great news

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:49 (four years ago) link

Do the phrenologists think patriot prayer are too extreme or not extreme enough? Not enough head bearings or head beating getting the lumps to appear in the wrong places?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link

Quillette's editor is claiming that he actually dropped out of service because of his oh-so-traumatic brain injury, but she would.

Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link

she was the one that published the fake DSA takedown piece a couple of weeks ago right?

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

he only did about 15 live interviews after that brain injury, let the man rest

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

Re: that Ijeoma Oluo about her house getting swatted she wrote something on it, link below. (she wrote one of my favorite pieces from 2018)

https://medium.com/@IjeomaOluo/the-thing-about-safety-a3e4cac767c2

Yerac, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

argh
that Ijeoma Oluo tweet from above about her house getting swatted... that should've said.

Yerac, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

There's saying the quiet part out loud, and then there's this fucknut (Modesto, CA):

white supremacist tryna form a straight pride parade accidentally lets truth slip at city council meeting pic.twitter.com/c8fWtOwORT

— bhad phag (@hebaddie) September 1, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 2 September 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

old video, but still refreshingly honest.

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 2 September 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

Milo reveals just how much the far right are struggling after being deplatformed from the main social media sites. pic.twitter.com/oB3T94J89B

— Roanna 🧙‍♀️ (@witchofpeace) September 9, 2019

🎻

gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

looooooooool

pic.twitter.com/7CGV3qxfMH

— Fintan Hennessy (@FintanHennessy) September 9, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 September 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

rip big man, heaven needed another small businessman crushed by the free market

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

looool

honestly i don't get their beef w Gab. too many "teen racists", you say? yeah no shit homeboy. it's operating exactly as an online FREEEZZE PEACH zone should be expected to.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Similar thing with Rave Dubin, going to The Blaze(?) whatever that is, so he can have free speech and also remove the trolls and their right to free speech

anvil, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

going to brag a little here and divulge that I Was Banned from Gab last year for (probably) relentlessly trolling Torba, his mother, and Ben Garrison. so much for the tolerant 'free speech warrior' right i guess.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

thank u for yr service

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

it was my honor to serve. telling Andrew Torba I was going to call the cops if he didn't wash his dick was my viet nam.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

A really good article on Andy Ngo.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

Have you been waiting for a 1500 word treatise from the Claremont Institute making the intellectual case for calling David French a cuck? pic.twitter.com/tqM9HuJNkm

— Adrenochrome Harvester (@ClenchedFisk) September 13, 2019

j., Saturday, 14 September 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link

Downtown Portland in the rain, some fun is happening against the Patriot Prayer types. Thread here:

A satanic ritual (?!) is happening in the square now. I think this is a strategy to distract from Patriot Prayer’s march, in which case: mission accomplished. pic.twitter.com/OIsVxmdDxG

— Blair Stenvick (@BlairStenvick) September 15, 2019

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 16 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

Milo in a crowd of fully disguised and anonymous people sounds like a bad combo.

Milo Yiannopoulos is a disgraced right wing troll who thrives on attention. This warning will be the only mention of him here. Do not allow him into MFF. Do not give him attention. Do not talk about him. Do not spread anything he says. He turns kids into Nazis. Stay away. pic.twitter.com/F87DU3YLls

— Furry Takes (@SpicyFurryTakes) September 15, 2019

... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link

Aaaand he’s out

I just want everyone to understand that the furry community kicked Milo Yiannopoulos to the curb a million times faster that the mainstream GOP pundit class ever dreamed of doinghttps://t.co/cX4BAggul7

— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) September 16, 2019

... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

The FBI has arrested a member of U.S. Army who allegedly discussed plans to bomb a major U.S. news network, discussed traveling to Ukraine to fight with violent far-right group, and allegedly distributed info online on how to build bombs. He also allegedly mentioned @BetoORourke.

— Mike Levine (@MLevineReports) September 23, 2019

four weeks pass...

A new career highlight for both of them

"What the fuck is Milo doing here, cornboy?" someone yelled.

Milo took the podium and said he's "fallen so hard and so far I've now been reduced to my previous career before I was a journalist and I am Mr. Wohl's personal stylist."

He then plugged some new show and went inside. pic.twitter.com/g5dyGsqs4R

— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) October 21, 2019

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 October 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

https://www.yahoo.com/news/proud-boys-sentenced-new-york.html

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

glad to see them described as an "extremist street gang" in a mainstream pub tbh

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

oh that's syndicated from HuffPost lol whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

yeah i was like - this is surprisingly antifascist for yahoo.com

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

there are some things in here I'm not sure I'd agree with (primarily involving who is classified as what), but the overarching hypothesis seems reasonable

https://www.wired.com/story/not-youtubes-algorithm-radicalizes-people/

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

The thing is, we had a sort of rebranded nazi party which became so big on YouTube that they could run for parliament, and after they were at long last banned from the algorithm for racism, the viewership of their videos fell 87%.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 October 2019 07:51 (four years ago) link

Interesting one for me listed there is Red Ice TV, I'm familiar with them from around 2007 when they were a conspiracy theory interview podcast called Red Ice Creations with my flatmate used to listen to all the time. The host was a very softly spoken Swedish guy, the show was interesting to listen to as I got the impression that he shared my opinion that the interviewees were people with fascinating delusions who he respected for their power to create and live in alternative realities. But looks like I may have been wrong about this.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 October 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link

full paper, by the way, is here https://osf.io/73jys/

again, there are some things I'm not sure about, for instance this: It can take days or weeks to produce one hour's worth of text content on Facebook or Twitter, but in some cases, creating one hour's worth of video content takes exactly one hour.

I mean... sure? if you're already someone established enough to livestream, live, with zero production values whatsoever, and have people care. but if you're not, this is not really going to get you any traction (as anyone who's stumbled upon, like, low-production-value let's plays with 40 views knows). the stuff that goes viral is either by a person who is known, or at least known in fringe circles (or tenacious/gonzo enough at self promoting that they can become so), and/or has surprisingly high production values

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

(which seems like a nitpick, but half the framework of the study is that there is a greater supply of videos largely for this reason)

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

i haven't read the whole paper but i don't really like what i'm getting from the wired story, it's got this "well, ACTUALLY..." vibe to it, the idea that people are fundamentally "moderates" who are "radicalized" is certainly a questionable assumption but a lot of it comes across like an apologia for youtube, which i don't think is necessary?

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

My main takeaway was that the audience already existed, it was just underserved. That certainly feels correct to me.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

I also didn’t understand the way they compared viewership numbers between cable and youtube? It seemed like they just made up an arbitrary ratio to represent “globalness” and assumed a can opener

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

to be fair "making up an arbitrary ______" describes more viewership numbers than you'd think

as far as the "well actually," that's kind of to be expected when presenting any sort of counter-argument; it did not come off as an apologia for youtube so much as "it's not as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube"

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

as far as the "well actually," that's kind of to be expected when presenting any sort of counter-argument; it did not come off as an apologia for youtube so much as "it's not as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube"

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine)

but is anybody arguing that it _is_ as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube, or are people just arguing that, you know, unplugging the third reich feeding tube might be a good thing, all things considered? the whole "counter-argument" aspect of it just strikes me as questionable framing

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Friday, 25 October 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link

Not sure what the full story is here, but looks like popcorn time to me

Milo just uploaded leaked audio of Richard Spencer reacting to the death of Heather Heyer and the negative press it did to his movement.

Just in case there was any question of the so-called "dapper white nationalist" being a raged fuelled hateful monster.

Explicit warning. pic.twitter.com/KpVk2fLYSu

— BAILEY, THE LIBTARDTARIAN 🃏 (@atheist_cvnt) November 4, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link

What a sad pathetic human

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 4 November 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link

remember when people wrung their hands bc he got punched? remember that? you remember when people said that it was bad? people said that.

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 4 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link


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