Remake/Remodel: DC Rebirth so you don't have to

That bit of #10 then reading The Button was pretty much comic Easter Eggs dosed with crank. Anytime you got the Flash running on the cosmic treadmill with Batman hanging from a rope off a Batarang(TM), you got some real comic action going.

I finally caught up with GMs Green Lantern and it’s probably his most unreadable book since Arkham Asylum. Also Liam Sharp, yecch .

I remember when I used to be excited about new GMoz work

some Tom King/DC movie Universe info i was unaware of:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2019-10-01/array-alliance-ava-duvernay

When Ava DuVernay started writing the in-the-works DC Comics movie “The New Gods,” she and co-writer Tom King spent each day working in a different part of the campus for maximum creativity, she said.

The post-Doomsday Clock DON'T CALL IT A CRISIS One True Timeline looks like more of a mess than any of us could have imagined.

Get outta town.

The post-Flashpoint fuckery has gone on long enough now that I finally accepted the other day that I have no interest in ever dipping my toe back into DC comics continuity. There's still stuff from the past and on the fringes that interests me, but their mainstream books (which comprised probably 30-40% of my pull list in like 2010) can suck my left one.

It's nearly all still speculation, since large chunks of it are based on a deliberately grainy slide from DC talk at NYCC, but with the power of the internet detectives shouting SHARPEN and ENHANCE at their computers like CSI Tentacle Hentai some of it has become clear. And it makes the 5G name for the relaunch clear.

We're back to Only One Troo Kvult Continuity again, split into 4 generations. 'CURRENT' TIME IS 1999.

Gen 1 starts with the explosion of Krypton in 1938 and the appearance of Wonder Woman, and goes through the JSA, J'onnz arriving on Earth, WWII, the atomic bomb, a Keene Act and ends with the formation of Challengers of the Unknown.

Gen 2 starts with the debut of Batman and Superman in 1963/64 and last 15 years up to CoIE.

Gen 3 is the 15 years where all the big events happened. Knightfall, Death In The Family, Killing Joke, Death and Return of Superman... and the crossovers. Identity Crisis, Zero Hour, Blackest Night, all the other Crises. Basically a shit time to be alive.

Gen 4 is a 5 year period where everything from the last decade happened, good or bad. Court of Owls, Rebirth, Metal, Year of the Villains.

So 5G is the fifth generation. And all the heroes will be new again. Batman will be Lucius Fox's son, Jonathan Kent will be made even older again and be Superman. And all the rest, a new one every month from Wonder Woman in November 2020 (Cassandra Sandsmark apparently).

I'll be gone by then so some other mug will need to read it.

Sounds like they've finally worked out all the kinks. Smooth sailing from here until, what, two-and-a-half years from now when they once again shout DO-OVER! DO-OVER!

jeez so they're gonna brand each book by its "gen"? what a shitshow

Yeah, Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent back inside two years.

are they pulling King and Bendis off the flagship books?

And that would be both understandable and fine if it were planned for and they had some idea of how to get back to that point. But you know they're gonna be caught flat-footed when fans start to grumble about Lobo becoming the new Flash and they'll do the eleventh-hour scramble, all 'chee, we didn't mean it, fellas, honest, don't be sore at us!'

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Speculation Bendis is behind all this. He calls himself the creator of the Ultimate line remember.

Having read the Ultimate line start to finish, I don't know that I'd brag too much about that.

Rebirth was only 3 years ago, right? At least that was kind of a soft reboot.

I'm not gonna grumble about Luke Fox Batman or Jonathan Kent Batman. New generations, new stories hopefully, definitely prefer that over bringing back a dead Flash for the gazillionth time

Feels like longer, but multiple #1s and biweekly books will do that.

Having read the Ultimate line start to finish, I don't know that I'd brag too much about that.

Having read Ultimate Spider-Man #1, Ultimate Team-Up #1, The Ultimates and four or five issues of Ultimate Adventures, I don't know that I'd brag too much about reading the line start to finish

By that logic you must consider disclosure of a syphilis diagnosis 'bragging' as well.

Penicillin won't cure a compulsion to read Bendis.

Hey now, we're all comics readers, we're all up to our waists in crap.

[looks at reading pile to right of laptop]

Bad Gateway hardcover, an issue of Meat Cake, Schizo #4, The Cheque Mate, the Bounty Law issue of Mad, an issue of Dash Shaw's Cosplayers, Love & Rockets vol II #20, kus! #30 edited by Gabe Fowler, a Hunt Emerson book on Rip Off, eleven different Simon Hanselmann minis, a stack of New Yorkers, the new TCJ, an issue of Lucky Peach with mini-interviews w/ John Pham, Sammy Harkham and Xaime in, and one Millar/Quitely floppy set in Sydney that I'm trying to bring myself to write a snarky blog about.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6fA9sJ3LBwg/hqdefault.jpg

comics: a friend of mine

comics: an abusive boyfriend of yours but if you keep giving him another chance he'll hold your hand in public once, on your next birthday, as long as you don't say anything stupid with your dumb mouth during the week beforehand

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6fA9sJ3LBwg/hqdefault.jpg

Why do you make me do this. Why.

Sic, it is possible to be too much of an arsehole.

:( I’m sorry for disparaging the dude that gave OL syphilis

Y'know tbf it's really a fool's errand to try and pin it on one solitary dude.

Exsyphiliselcior!

Lois Lane #4 starts out incest-y and only gets more so.

sold

Took a look at DC's books in a shop for the first time in ages because of this thread, and am predictably mystified and enraged. What is a Year of the Villain? Why is Event Leviathan? The fucking Legion of fucking tedious fucking Super-heroes again?

I tried reading Tom King's Batman a while ago on the strength of his Vision series. It was extraordinarily purple, with a plot that lurched like a drunk falling down stairs, but aside from the 1-page reintroduction of Kite Man, it was not very good.

http://www.superdickery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/crwtpy3wgaaew3sh8jkt.jpg

King's Batman is pretty wacky and they seem to be playing up the 'high tech' angle of everything. I thought it was ok fun. I'm I've read up to #48, so I am a couple arcs behind where it is at now. They did a Superman and Batman double dating with Lois Lane and Catwoman issue, which was cheesy but super hero comic catnip. The New 52 Batman is a pretty emotional creature compared to the ole' Miller Batd1ck.

I'm kind of skipping around catching up on some Batman comics. I am reading the last part of the Tomasi/Gleason Batman and Robin series and up to when the teams changed on the first N52 Detective series. I've read the whole VOL.2/N52 Snyder Batman run.

King's run has some slow stretches, but overall I admit love it (and its purpleness)

once the wedding passes tho, woo boy.

I'm back to enjoying King's run in a read-it-as-soon-as-its-out (but for free) way

With respect to the crap vs. indie discussion, I like both, but I'd pick a bad Tom Taylor comic over Simon Hanselmann any day, yikes

Some would have us believe that the world of indie comics is less crap-filled than the mainstream.

sturgeon's law as always applies

What that a Tom King comic is an indyref trigger?

A law established at federation restricted us from having more than one half-decent cartoonist every half-decade, and while I respect the gag of making this guy a clone of Wolverine, Tom Taylor cannot be it.

Looks like Nite Owl is in the Justice League now:

https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Nite-Owl-Justice-League-2.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=963&h=481

I was going to say "as much as the Kingdom Come Alan Scott", but apparently that's just what he looks like these days?

and the red son superman, looks like

Led by Kamandi? Yeah, probably some multiversal crossover.

So, having not really followed DC at large but strategically holding Doomsday Clock at arm’s length:
Did they really fuck up the timing with it so much that the culmination ties into crap that did or was supposed to happen in the main line of comics a long time back? And I’ve also read that they’ve already introduced a couple celestial-level characters capable of screwing around with all of reality that makes the whole deal kind of redundant?

they're called "the editors" but they answer to the awesome power of "THE SHAREHOLDERS"