even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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poverty takes one strange places

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link

looool bret stephens

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link

The edit history on his Wikipedia page is a real rollercoaster now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EC84gQUVUAAECaO?format=jpg&name=small

I love the people saying this is an example of the Streisand effect, implication being he actually is a bedbug and doesn’t want people to know.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

50% of columnists now are polished front row kids who played by all the rules, went to the right schools, learned how to properly couch their rightwing bile then twitter happed & random rose emojis told them to suck on a tailpipe and their columns are now just them melting down

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) August 27, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

50% seems low

love how the GW prof has apparently taken the day off to talk to every news outlet in the world

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

back to quiddities

“They should be put in jail,” said Doug Gansler, a former Maryland attorney general and an unsuccessful gubernatorial candidate, while his King Charles spaniel, Jack, searched for a new dog to hump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no-excessive-barking-a-chevy-chase-dog-park-divides-the-rich-and-powerful/2019/08/27/0b9fd242-c4e5-11e9-9986-1fb3e4397be4_story.html?noredirect=on

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

That could've gone a lot worse.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

Brett looks like he’s 35. Why do conservatives, even the not-obviously-Nazis kind, age so quickly?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 30 August 2019 03:59 (four years ago) link

Fear of life?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 30 August 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link

xp jfc

My jaw is on the floor pic.twitter.com/repnmcL2Ud

— David Klion🔥 (@DavidKlion) August 30, 2019

mookieproof, Saturday, 31 August 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

If you’re going to use a google books link, it’s generally a good idea to remember to clear the search.

(And maybe be a little wary if your only hit is an repurposed dissertation no one has bothered to review and that only equivocally supports your hypothesis.) pic.twitter.com/QC4hJ0KJfo

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) August 30, 2019

mookieproof, Saturday, 31 August 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link

ha! I was wondering which Brett looked like he was 35 because Brett Stephens is 45 and I thought he was David Brooks' age. And how is Ross Douhat 39? These guys need to figure some shit out.

Yerac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

wow indeed

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 31 August 2019 02:05 (four years ago) link

At the request of a senior editor, I deleted a previous tweet in which I implied that a prominent NYT opinion writer’s behavior were an embarrassment to NYT and it’s newsroom staff. 1/2

— Lil Uzi Hurt (@lostblackboy) August 31, 2019

Simon H., Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link

he should've deleted it, removed the implication and explicitly stated it. And posted the senior editor's request if it was written.

Yerac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

But there are so many embarrassments at the NYT maybe someone felt overshadowed.

Yerac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

he should've deleted it, removed the implication and explicitly stated it. And posted the senior editor's request if it was written.

I suspect he may wish to continue enjoying their paychecks

Simon H., Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

oh ha, i totally skipped over he had a @nytimes there.

Yerac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

i seriously don't understand why the NYT has taken this route of constantly shooting themselves in the dick.

Yerac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

they must keep missing b/c surely it only takes one hit to take care of it for good

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

nevermind, i take that back. nyt's share price has done very well since Trump got elected so keep on shooting.

Yerac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link

he should've deleted it, removed the implication and explicitly stated it. And posted the senior editor's request if it was written.
I suspect he may wish to continue enjoying their paychecks

― Simon H., Saturday, August 31, 2019 7:32 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Are NYT writers unionized, and if so, where the frick is their union on this?

Miami Herald but oh well:

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

Socialite waits for Hurricane Dorian

this should have been about you

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

good roundup

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/it-didnt-start-with-the-bedbugs.html

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

^ Bret Stephens wins that listicle through the sheer weight of appearing in it more times than all the other Times columnists added together. One senses a tendency.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

^^^can someone do a clusterfuck summary on this for me

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 02:14 (four years ago) link

I thought it was a good, sympathetic piece -- it leaves a lot of questions open but how could it not, probably.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

Summary: don’t believe everything you see on Instagram, don’t mix personal and professional relationships, and don’t fuck over your collaborators unless you have an ironclad NDA

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link

Being young in the age of social media sounds like my worst nightmare.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

It's a really well written piece, much more interesting for being so personal instead of journalistic, but... It is just me or does it seem like the really truly awful and horrendous thing Caroline does is... to get drunk and fall asleep and not answer her phone?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 07:35 (four years ago) link

I think yr meant to bring some awareness of how completely non-hinged her later grifting became, and not require Natalie to fill that in or to keep explaining that Caroline is a monstrous narcissist, when she’s writing a piece about unsettling intimacy

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 09:39 (four years ago) link

The Cut is really into writing these in depth "scam" articles. Just watch that Ingrid Goes West doc. Both of the women in that article suck in the way that most young 20 somethings suck.

Yerac, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

haha it's not a doc, it's a movie. I don't know why I wrote that. influencer culture is the most transparent scam ever.

Yerac, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure if this is the right thread, but I feel very :/ about this piece (which is also v relevant to my interests as an NYC public school parent)
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/10/when-the-culture-war-comes-for-the-kids/596668/

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 16 September 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

man I skimmed to the end of section 2 and was like "how many more words are you going to write to continue buttering yourself up for having the bravery to send your white children to public school"

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 16 September 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

oh I skimmed to the end and it's some PC gone mad bullshit by then cool

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 16 September 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link

I mean my daughter is only in elementary school but so far at least in our school I have seen very little of the PC gone mad type stuff he claims pervades the system. I do think Carranza is a bit of a fraud fwiw and promotes a lot of new agey bullshit as wokeness, but, again, my daughter is not spending her day in sensitivity training, she learns math and reading and stuff.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

My teacher wife occasionally has to attend a nonsensical workshop that I guess is part of the training being referred to in the article. She is generally pretty pro-PC and pro-wokeness but thinks a lot of the training is just ineffective and meaningless and doesn't accomplish what it sets out to do. That's just the nature of massive well-financed bureaucratic urban public school systems though -- lots of opportunities for grift and timewasting.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

my daughter... learns math and reading and stuff.

What?! Math and reading, instead of cookery, household management, sewing and embroidery?? It's PC gone mad!

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

right now there's a lot of handwringing in my neighborhood over Carranza's plan to phase out G&T programs. I actually kind of lean toward phasing them out based on my experiences -- (1) mostly they are gamed by better off (and mostly white and asian) people to separate their kids out from the rabble (2) in my neighborhood, where all the public schools are already strong, it just arbitrarily shuffles some kids around because they got a 98 instead of a 96 on a test they literally took when they were four years old.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

but it's def an example that some people read as "the end of meritocracy."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

gifted and talented programs, and even attending a regional magnet high school, did relatively little to challenge me and relatively a lot to prevent me from learning any kind of resilience and social skills

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link

I mean idk as someone who through 13 years of public school never struggled academically but often struggled emotionally as an adult I'm kind of leaning towards "school's bad"

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

in my (extremely personal and unfairly extrapolated) experience g&t classes were like, oh whoa someone in your household has already found the time to teach you to read and also you don't talk pidgin?? congratulations on being chosen as a Smart Kid for the next 12 years! what it is, you see, is that your brain is different. it's a special gift brain. all the other kids have normal brains that don't work as well as yours. [two decades pass] WHY IS EVERYONE A NAZI OH MY GOD I DON'T UNDERSTAND

difficult listening hour, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

the only assignments i remember from 1st grade g+t were about Logic, like lil basic syllogisms where you had to spot the error, etc.. i could mock this i guess but it was prob okay stuff. meanwhile my nominal classmates were gluing together loops of cardboard to make chains of red-white-and-blue decoration for the 4th (i remember this because i got momentarily yelled at over the shortness of my chain before the teacher remembered i'd been In Gifted And Talented that day and hadn't been available for this peon work-- she was of course v embarrassed and apologetic). this fragmented memory is not necc representative of the contrast between even my own school's g+t stuff and its regular-track stuff, let alone everybody else's, but it's always kinda stuck with me: aren't you lucky you get taken away and literally taught to think while the others stay behind to worship

difficult listening hour, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link


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