thread of youtubers whomst are not terrible

dang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWDgbCM8qc&list=UUwbLD07XxWfEw0OIHZKM7lw&index=7

try as I might I can't make heads or tails of this Contrapoints "cancellation"

Is she canceled though?

She quit twitter, right? But she got as much support as criticism. Its hard to see her really losing subscribers on this? I don't quite now how to judge but a high profile person is always going to come under attack, and from all directions. If some people were unhappy with her I think thats generally ok if thats their take

Its tangentially related but I was thinking about the concepts of "the left eats their own" vs "why are there no left wing grifters", and whether 'cancellation culture' is actually that bad.

Right wing media tends to be more personality driven, so cancellation doesn't really happen, and leftist media tends to be more issue driven, so taking a position on an issue can be more divisive. (but then the right has fractious splits, PJW vs Shapiro, but then seems personality led fallout)

I just can't even tell what the actual controversy was, by the time I heard about it she was off twitter

I guess I could trawl through her mentions to figure it out but I'd really really rather not

oh, basically she said in 'hyperwoke' spaces everyone is giving their pronouns (leading to bizarre situation where an entirely cis group is doing this, and then Natalie has to do it and then situation where a passing trans has to explain when they might just like to be accepted)

and then she can go into a sports bar in NC and no one gaf, no one misgenders her, and she's called ma'am and miss all night

backlash being, well great for you who can pass

I might sorta have that wrong, could be deeper about the concept of 'passing', and that some non-binary people resented the possible implication that pronoun announcing is bad (or merely irritating to Natalie?)

it isn't the first time that she has kinda said stuff that made nb folks say "hey but uhhhhhhh" and i think the most recent super personal "if not for nb ppl i'd have an easier time" admission kinda made a whole bunch of people say "ok can we stop deifying this person" and she never signed on to be deified in the first place and other ppl took the opportunity to say she's been a lib the whole time and it's a real mess and a bunch of well-meaning people have been hurt by words of other well-meaning people

when in doubt, stan contrapoints tbh

anyway my latest discovery is TwoSetViolin, a charming young pair of Sino-Australian violinists who share the remarkable quality of being actually funny. they appear to have devoured Classical Music Youtube whole, and deservedly so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-yfZn5iYJE

what's jon done now

A guy walking around for 1-2 hours (mostly in the rain in big cities all over the world) and it's like weirdly relaxing even though there's a lot of noise and people (especially in Manhattan and Tokyo, for instance) : http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqRTj-Nu_8to3jIBlXptOtA

how is this walking around in cities so fascinating? I'm hooked -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3jf95Rh1Ew

I love it

I've been enjoying these videos ("Sad Reality a series where i vlog about dead or dying retailers") kind of like a sombre American version of Beno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1jJ08DYDls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgENz7cxfEw

https://themazatlanpost.com/2019/09/27/mexican-grandmother-creates-a-youtube-channel-to-teach-homemade-recipes-it-already-has-265-thousand-subscribers/

Looks interesting

Meanwhile in England, Kay's Good Cooking hasn't updated in over a year, hope she's ok

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeKWgImK1RAD9IGjWZqxmIw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxY_Y9TGWI

45 seconds into this, have given it a like and posted it here

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGPB2ZA4096SESz_VZVzHoA

Lockdown 23and1

Prison and after prison stuff

does ILX like Jreg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuopBeaUN24

Similar to StanM's post, this guy films lots of rural Japan in 4K with no music or dumb graphics. I cannot get enough of wandering through temples, tea houses or little backstreets, he even crossfades the sound for headphone listeners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeEIHRjFYNw

Australia really is Land Of The Youtuber right now, but I think "I did a thing" is now the best of all. Behold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQEIrNSPoQE

I hope the (entirely too long) new Contrapoints on cancel culture starts some reasonable discussions on the subject. probably not tho

nice, looking forward to that

GeoWizard's new series has started incredibly well btw

he truly is the last flaneur

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyWpE-Jx0A

Bryan Brutons's Prison Channel is good. Did 11 years in the Florida Prison System

I hope the (entirely too long) new Contrapoints on cancel culture starts some reasonable discussions on the subject. probably not tho

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.)

wrong thread

oh wait you started this thread, can a mod please change the title of this thread to "thread of youtubers whomst are now terrible", thank you

what's yer beef rusho

it would take a long time to explain and i'm not sure it's worth it (am coming to the conclusion that the nature of youtube is such that one cannot be a not-terrible youtuber, at least not while talking about politics/subscribing to "influencer" culture), but in lieu of an actually considered response, i'll just say "buck angel" and leave it at that

fwiw that controversy is discussed in agonizing detail (I was previously unfamiliar)

I thought about trying to summarize that section but there's really no substitute for just watching it, which is of course a huge part of a problem with The Discourse when it comes to this sort of thing

The US Chemical Safety Board account posts really detailed 3D animation re-enactments of chemical explosions and stuff, it’s cool.

Honestly, I don't think I'm going to watch it. I think I'm done with Natalie. I'm tired her explaining and analyzing everything at length, I'm tired of her Influencer thing where she feels like she has to speak for everyone instead of just letting people speak for themselves. I'm tired of people who praise Natalie's videos and kind of implicitly assume that she respresents the Trans Perspective and going on to ignore that an extremely large number of trans people - I can't give you an exact number, but it's not rare and it's getting less rare as time goes on - aren't comfortable with her statements, don't agree with her soapboxing. I dread the day Natalie puts out a new video because it just starts up a whole new round of arguments all over again, and in any discussion the brilliant, gorgeous white girl Influencer with the bully pulpit is going to have a certain advantage.

idk why people can't watch things, think they're fine, and have minor disagreements with parts of it

everything has to be an epic comment battle. just like, watch things at take them at face value, maybe articulate a disagreement, let others disagree

an online nation of stans

It's not really my place to parse/argue rusho's specific objections, but the video was well timed for me witnessing the shitstorm that has fallen on k@m @ust1n c0ll1ns over a dumb joke that he made and apologized for within a very short timespan and is still getting pilloried for beyond simple "do better" criticism despite having, AFAIK, absolutely no history of problematic behavior or speech whatsoever. (the whole thing went down so fast I didn't even get to see the original post!)

anyway some combo of the video and this mini controversy inspired me to finally deactivate my twitter account so that's something good

i've really gotten into this channel called "Drain Addict". it's this australian dude who has a job unclogging drains with a high-pressure water jet with various head attachments. he has minimal commentary. if you like work/process/job progress type content, or gross stuff (old sewage etc) but can't do medical body horror stuff like your dr pimple poppers or w/e, check it out! he has hundreds of videos. hundreds. combo of nasty, infrastructural and kind of asmr chill. occasional jarring australian wildlife sounds.

there's an american guy "post 10" who does similar stuff, but frankly seems mentally not all right. he really likes unblocking storm drains and culverts, but just as a very overly serious local do-gooder. lots of commentary about being ignored by city government when he calls to discuss these issues.

anyway some combo of the video and this mini controversy inspired me to finally deactivate my twitter account so that's something good

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, January 2, 2020 12:04 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

bless you for stepping into the light

feels good man

oh, man, there’s also the dude who set up a webcam for the “can opener” overpass in connecticut that slices the tops off of heavy trucks like once a month: https://11foot8.com

https://11foot8.com/speeding-semi-gets-smashed-up-at-the-11foot8-bridge/

this one is great

i saw this a few months ago, fuming

The city of Durham, North Carolina is finally raising an 11-foot-8 bridge nicknamed "The Can Opener" for shaving the tops off trucks in more than a decade's worth of viral videos. Its many fans—myself included—are mourning the loss: https://t.co/YMNL27Sgsi

— Miles Klee (@MilesKlee) October 23, 2019

deactivating your twitter account is good

natalie is smart and clever and persuasive and i'm sure she makes a lot of very good points, depending on your perspective "cancelling" can either be a howling irrational mob or the intersectional voice of marginalized peoples, it's just, i don't know, there are limits to discourse, there are limits to explaining things, there are limits to how many times i can hear someone patiently explain how i've completely misunderstood them and how unfairly i am judging them/taking them out of context. it just reminds me of all those times j.k. rowling insisted she wasn't a terf but just clicked "like" on all those transphobic tweets by "accident", and by and large, you know, it seemed like cis people believed her, and then last week everybody was all like "OH MY GOD J.K. ROWLING IS A TRANSPHOBE WHO KNEW?!?!?"

i can't speak to anything but my own experience. maybe there are trans communities where people are all "oh, cool, another contrapoints video!" like i used to be instead of "oh, god, another contrapoints video", which has, over the past year, become the dominant reaction to her videos from the trans communities i hang out in.

they locked my twitter account cos I told rupert murdoch I hope he dies this year

he should know that you want him to die, immortality is a huge burden

Damn that would have been a more productive way to cap off my twitter career