Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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this is my first car so I don't have a lot of basis for comparison, but it seems OK. it's quite smart, like if the car in front of me starts moving it auto-starts before I've even taken my foot off the brake

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 17 August 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

I have it too and agree that it mostly works fine. Apparently it’s not like a hard restart, more like some kind of suspension that just springs back to life when you take your foot off the gas. The amount of tech in the car overall is pretty boggling - I’ve had it six months, read the manuals front to back, watched hours of videos, and still don’t understand all of it. Absolutely love it right now, but it’s got definite “quirks” and I fear the day it brakes on its own in highway traffic or whatever because a sensor malfunctions.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Sunday, 18 August 2019 04:11 (four years ago) link

Also Denny's getting rid of the Breakfast Dagwood

When did this happen! Why did it happen!! Fuck the entire world!!!

del griffith, Sunday, 18 August 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link

I been a loyal customer for like 25 years and this is the thanks I get. No heads up or anything. See if I ever go back to Dennys again. Loggin on to villageinn.com right NOW to locate my nearest new second home.

del griffith, Sunday, 18 August 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link

I got my Samsung Galaxy off craigslist for $240 but maybe they don't have used non-Apple products there, idk

― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, August 15, 2019 4:29 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Be careful, those can go off at any moment

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 August 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link

a bunch of electronic locks/keypads that are slower or less effective than just turning a key in a lock

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 19 August 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link

So many different ways of washing hands belong in this thread. The mad variety of awful soap/water/dryer innovations in the last decade or two, and none of them beat just turning a fucking tap.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

I'm pretty sure most automated bathroom amenities are produced by Rand Peltzer Inc.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

We've been so trained already to accept the couple-seconds-wait for the labor-saving device to activate, that adding a gratuitous delay is becoming a favored design choice. I'm sure there are countless examples in software, where the window beautifully swoops into view when you request it, instead of arriving spot on demand, but I'm thinking of the expensive new fridge I bought.

Works great, so cold, makes ice, frost-free. Every time you open the door, the interior lights gradually fade up from darkness over the course of 4 seconds, theatrically, suspensefully, revealing the food you want to grab.

mick signals, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

And then four seconds later it starts beeping obnoxiously to tell you you've left the door open

Josefa, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

they send a push notification to your phone now

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link

Oh yes. And then there are the decent innovations that aren't quite implemented right, what Auden called "good ideas which incompetence or impatience prevented from coming to much."

Like the convenient oven that I can set to roast my artichokes for precisely 30 minutes, then automatically shut itself off, saving me from having to watch the clock in the other room and leap up from what I'm doing. At the 30-minute mark, the oven shuts off and beeps to let me know I can retrieve my finished vegetable at my leisure. And keeps beep beeping with increasing insistence every 15 seconds forever until I go pay attention to it.

mick signals, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link

I had to learn the hard way the difference between the two timers on our newish oven (one of which is merely a timer, the other of which full-on stops the oven and, if cooking isn't complete, requires us to go through the excessively-long preheat process just to get back to square one, at which point I have no idea how much more cook time will be necessitated for the foodstuff that's either been sitting on the stovetop or in an oven of fluctuating temperature for the past ten minutes).

I kinda just want a semi-contained firepit in the middle of the kitchen tbh.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's not just a case of us all subjectively preferring the exact level of labor-saving we were raised with and no more. I think there's a discrete line the machines are crossing, where they're trying to do what they think we want, rather than doing what they're explicitly told. And that's where it becomes oh my god you guys just stop labor-saving me so much damn extra work!

mick signals, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link

shutting off the heat source won't bring the oven to room temperature for awhile. The oven needs to transfer its contents to a built in but thermally isolated vat of 160deg beurre monte when the timer goes off.

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

OH BOY, do I have one for this thread. What the fuck is the deal with Windows updates now? That thing where you can only defer them for so long until they're just like, 'yeah, whatever it is you're doing is going to stop now while we shut yr shit down for the next couple of hours'. Up your ass, Microsoft. All the way up your ass.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

I mean and just updates in general that can't be averted/delayed. Life is too goddamn short for me to have to sit and watch a progress bar accomplish more than I'm able to.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

You can 'adjust active hours to reduce disruptions' (which I never do, of course).

pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

the poxy fule gave one time to reconsider

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

churning butter toned our biceps. besides, the time it took gave us time to think about all the beurre monte we were eating. was it really necessary?

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

All the way up your ass.

4 % up ass
About 56 minutes remaining

mick signals, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

digital picture frames

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

is it really necessary to rotate our favorite pictures of butter?

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

the number of butter holders in new cars

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

digital picture frames

― triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, August 20, 2019 9:10 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

On the contrary, I got one for my mom that allows people to upload photos and videos via an app and I think she really loves it.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

should upload a pic of your country crock. 'just kidding, mom'

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

Oh, if it were anyone but my moms you best believe I'd be trolling the shit out of that digital frame.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

how when you click the red "close window" button on a mac it doesn't actually shut down the programme any more

umsworth (emsworth), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

it has never done that afaicr

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link

it used to do it more often but whether or not it does is at the discretion of the programmer. os-bundled apps in particular often used to do it and many now don't.

j., Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link

interface guidelines used to be more pushy about the types of programs that ought to do it, too.

j., Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

ah ok, im only a part-time mac user and its always been red button just closes the window when ive bothered to take notice

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 22 August 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link

If you only need b/w get a brother hl-2350 or 2360 from Craigslist for like 40$. Duplex laser printer. WiFi works. Fast enough for the home. Replacement no brand toner is $10.

caek i just want to say - i did this and i now feel like a total don.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link

welcome to the brother club, brother

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

printing from my phone feels genuinely futuristic

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

it's the complete opposite experience this thread is about! it just works for me! somehow it blows my mind every time I'm at home and I can hit print on my phone and it finds the printer, there are no drivers or whatever, and a few seconds later I hear the printer whirr to life

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

I still want phones to have changeable batteries, especially for travelling.

Sleeper trains in general are a technology going backwards — you'd think with flygskam etc this would be a good time to introduce more, but a number of big routes have closed in the last few years.

stet, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

If you claim to prefer manual transmissions for any rationale besides “fun” you are a moron.

uh, can we go back to this challop -- I live where there are steep hills and traffic, and being able to brake + downshift (vs. just brake) can be really really crucial

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

honestly, i feel like the increase in automatic transmission cars in the U.S. has to do with the public school system's changes to driver's ed -- teaching someone to drive an automatic is way easier.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

"fun" would be the moronic reasons to like manual transmission. it's just a better way of controlling a car vs an easier way.

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

steep hills + traffic going uphill is far easier in an automatic though surely, so doesn't that just cancel out?

tbf I couldn't get the hang of manual gears at all, I'd still be learning to drive now if I hadn't switched to automatic

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

steep hills + traffic going uphill is far easier in an automatic though surely, so doesn't that just cancel out?

easier to not pay attention to one's surroundings, yes! ... which is why having a stick shift car is crucial for me.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

I learned and passed my test in an automatic with start-stop and honestly love it, wouldn't have it any other way.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

i also am fond of my Mr. Coffee coffeemaker

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

Locally, manual transmissions are theft prevention.

The appeal was much greater on my past snickity snick manual Miata than on my current FWD Hyundai.

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

I had my new work macbook for about 30 minutes today before I did something (resetting keychain) that required it to be completely re-imaged.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

reimaging is pretty fast these days!

I remember immediately breaking a Windows 98 installation in the first few hours and trying everything I could to avoid reinstalling because it'd be too damn painful

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

steep hills + traffic going uphill is far easier in an automatic though surely, so doesn't that just cancel out?

My car is underpowered, so man trans is big benefit. There's hills+rocky dirt roads which I see huge trucks with V8s struggle with but I have no problem with cause I can really rev the engine in 1st gear and keep the revs up for the whole climb. Also helps a great deal w/merging & overtaking. Plus for my car one of the few negative criticisms of it was its auto trans (actually it's a Subaru so it's a CVT not traditional automatic) so I avoided that drawback.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

honestly, i feel like the increase in automatic transmission cars in the U.S. has to do with the public school system's changes to driver's ed

it's cause US was 1st to make really good & reliable automatics

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

whos challop was that about transmission/automatics?

ridiculous statement obv

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link


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