"Use other words please."

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From the 'pitchfork is dumb' thread, this exchange made me let out an involuntary guffaw:


I am in favor of descriptions that describe the actual sounds, especially if they have points of reference — I’ve found old albums or bands to listen to that I hadn’t heard after reading a review of a new one I liked.

The reviewer should not, however, say that a song sounds “like artists X and Y had a baby”

― untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:34 PM bookmarkflaglink

what if the baby took acid tho

― Οὖτις, Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:36 PM bookmarkflaglink

enochroot, Saturday, 17 August 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

in the last few months I've been seeing people misuse (intentionally or unintentionally) "gaslighting" to mean a variety of things that are very far removed from gaslighting. People seem to be using it as shorthand for "you are disagreeing with me on this thing and I think you are a moron for having an opinion that is so obviously wrong". It's been misused that way on ILX on a few rare occasions. It was misused that way by butthurt Star Wars fans who were upset that John Boyega had the audacity to say that Reylo made no sense as a shipping. I saw two people arguing today about a festival lineup and one of the two accused the other of gaslighting because they suggested that the only reason they didn't like the lineup was because they were elitist and narrow-minded (???).

a lot of it seems to be thin-skinned people who can't bear to have their worldview challenged and weaponize it in an attempt to shut down the debate. it's frustrating because though we're a long way from it, like "fake news", it's a word that can easily be stripped of its meaning fast if certain bad actors repurpose it.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 03:25 (four years ago) link

“butthurt” is probably also a good word to avoid ;)

Into the Bro-known: One Dude’s ‘Frozen’ Podcast (morrisp), Saturday, 4 January 2020 03:30 (four years ago) link

it's been imprinted within me after years of ILXing, old habits die hard.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link

trolling = disagreeing now, losing any sense of meaning it may have had

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 4 January 2020 06:19 (four years ago) link

psychedelic

brimstead, Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Still better than 'on acid'.

pomenitul, Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Also i hate "OCD" used as shorthand for "I'm very tidy and don't like clutter".

I have mild OCD and yea that ain't it.

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

I really fucking hate the word "monetize" but it will be a useful indicator of who should be first in line for the gulags, so maybe I'll have to put up with it for a while.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 January 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I sort of wish there was a better word for what people really mean when they say "nature," i.e. bucolic settings, outdoor space, greenery, fresh air. None of this is necessarily "nature." People even refer to farms as "nature" when they are very far from natural. "Nature" is often miserable and something to be escaped. A lawn with a small patch of woods behind it is as man-made as the house overlooking it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

otm, i'm always trying to get architecture students to be more precise about this. pretty much everybody wants their building to "connect with the nature" but what exactly that means to you, and how you're going to do it architecturally, is a space of ten thousand possibilities.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

and, like, why it's supposed to be a good thing!

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

“project”

It’s an album or an EP. Why did this new term take hold?

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Thursday, 13 August 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

Maybe someone told them “Use other words please.”

rob, Thursday, 13 August 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

No fan/listener would say it — “Have you heard (artist)’s new ‘project’?” So why do artists use it?

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Thursday, 13 August 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

i would have asked the same thing about the word 'artists' tbh

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 August 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

make a certain sense from the artist’s pov tho - these days who knows in what form(at) the stuff you’re working on will see the light of day: mixtape? album? EP? or god forbid, only a few scattered singles or buzztracks?

whereas the fan/listener only sees the end product

plus projects are cool of course

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link

isn't 'project' used to refer to it when its in its embryonic state, just to suggest that they're in the process of assembling the album/EP?

seems p harmless to me.

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

Nah, it’s used for the finished product: https://nypost.com/2020/08/07/victoria-monet-jaguar-interview-album-project/

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

i saw some great artists last night at brownie's. man, some really good performances. i can't wait to hear the new projects they're working on.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

I blame Alan Parsons

rob, Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

make a certain sense from the artist’s pov tho - these days who knows in what form(at) the stuff you’re working on will see the light of day: mixtape? album? EP?

this is otm

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

The line btw “mixtape” and “album” seems to have become blurred, but that’s another story.

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

I was thinking about how people often start a follow-on sentence with ‘Indeed...’ when they’re writing but rarely when speaking. I’m not a fan, but indeed, it’s often a useful way to show your workings out

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 14 August 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

It makes sense with the likes of Ty Segall or Ethan Miller, who lead a few different bands at any given time. But for a specific release, no.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

I say "Indeed" in face to face conversations all the time. It's a very useful word.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 15 August 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

I don’t say “indeed” (in speech or writing) — though sometimes I do try to write using my “speaking voice,” and the language ends up sounding impoverished. Hemingway I’m not, I guess.

Get your filthy hands off my asp (morrisp), Saturday, 15 August 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

OK, I laughed at it here. I guess she uses the term b/c it’s more than an EP, but less than an album?

https://i.imgur.com/vKnc67w_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Get your filthy hands off my asp (morrisp), Saturday, 15 August 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

"classically trained"

I feel like "self-taught"/"autodidact" is the inverted equivalent of this. Brought to mind by:

His mother Susan Collier is a violinist, conductor, and professor at the Royal Academy of Music's Junior Academy.[8] Collier's maternal grandfather, Derek Collier, was a violinist who also taught at the Royal Academy and performed with orchestras around the world. Collier says, "We sing Bach chorales together as family – it's just so much fun."[7]...

Collier attended Mill Hill County High School in north London and The Purcell School for Young Musicians in Bushey, Hertfordshire.[11] He briefly studied jazz piano at the Royal Academy.[12]... Collier received the ABRSM Gold Medal for the highest mark in the country for his grade eight singing result in 2008.[14]...

Collier is a self-declared autodidact.

Sharp! Distance! (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 January 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

“jabs”
“shots in arms”

luv 2 see it happening; but cringe when I encounter those words, for some reason

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

It’s either that or ‘microchipped’.

pomenitul, Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

How do u feel about "fauci ouchie"

illumi-naughty (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

lol, the worst

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

I mean they literally are "shots" so I don't get the second one, unless it's just the "in arms" part you object to

if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Yeah, maybe there’s something kind of dehumanizing about it? It feels sort of like a military-style figure of speech (akin to “boots on the ground”)... guess there’s nothing inherently wrong with that—a military campaign metaphor is not inapt here—I don’t know why it bugs me. I’d be fine with just “shots.”

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

pump n dump

lord of the ting tings (map), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

sorry

lord of the ting tings (map), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

I think "shots in arms" is public health jargon. It does sound kind of militaristic, but it's the way doctors think.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

Yeah it would refer to vaccine doses actually deployed in disease control, as opposed to available reserves.
“Jab” is twee English public school slang and I wince every time I hear it.

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link

I suppose you can only say “administered vaccines” so many times (especially in a short communication that already uses the words “vaccine supply,” “vaccinated,” and “vaccinators”).

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

it’s akin to “bums on seats” which is even more unpleasant

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:26 (three years ago) link

Yea who sits that way. I sit on my head

if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

“tirelessly”

Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 March 2023 13:24 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

^still don’t like this one

Cosmo’s Hacienda (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 May 2023 14:17 (eleven months ago) link

"loosies" (for unreleased songs)

Unidentified rogue Jedi (morrisp), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:22 (ten months ago) link

Thought it meant singleton cigarettes for sale in a bodega.

I & I, Claudius (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:26 (ten months ago) link

Ok boomer

enochroot, Saturday, 20 May 2023 02:20 (ten months ago) link

ok fine, I've only ever heard "loosies" used that way in one place (an ad for a podcast). But that term is absolutely what makes the ad annoying. morrisp OTM.

enochroot, Saturday, 20 May 2023 02:25 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

“unserious”

just sayin, Friday, 9 June 2023 08:54 (ten months ago) link

I've never heard this

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Friday, 9 June 2023 08:58 (ten months ago) link


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