Backlash after Lil Nas X's "Old Town Road" removed from Billboard Hot Country chart

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Oh, I didn't realize Billy Ray thought it was funny, nm.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link

according to a Shelton publicist

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

I asked another white guy my age and he didn't think it was racist

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

was he Shelton's publicist

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

haha I meant the fact the publicist asked Billy Ray if it was cool instead of Lil Nas X

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

lol i love that. we talked to billy ray and he said we were cool. ????

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Glad they're getting called out for this. It drove me crazy when Tim McGraw released an album called Sundown Heaven Town 5 years ago and nobody said anything.

Vape Store (crüt), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

ha -- that McGraw album has a couple of his best tunes (and McGraw's the Dem).

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

sundown town yikes

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

wow, I've never heard that term before.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

"hell right" is also not a term

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

hell right fucking yeah

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

maybe they are trying to make hell right a thing.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

the song appears to be about the correct way to party ("raise hell right"), which appears to be:

- get twice as drunk as you initially planned
- be a football fan
- play hank williams junior (??) instead of the most popular song in America

so far so fuckheaded, but I'm confused by "a bottle to burn and a fire to light". what does that refer to? molotov cocktails??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

It’s def NAGL but I’m inclined to believe Blake in that he HAS made very awkward inroads at genre-crossing and racial harmony (I’ve said this before but this video is a great example of when someone is trying to woke but ends up lowkey racist)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JXAgv665J14

I mean, it could be a Miley sitch of abandoning black culture when it’s not convinient or profitable, but Blake was obv on that country-rap ish six years ago and could probably be milking it idk.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

fuck bro country

brimstead, Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

there's absolutely nothing about the 'genre-crossing' nashville-approved country hits that's in any way supportive of racial harmony

dyl, Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

^ otm

Vape Store (crüt), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

except "Old Town Road."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link

I thought OTR wasn’t Nashville approved!

Vape Store (crüt), Saturday, 17 August 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

once you get Cyrus it's a chef's kiss

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

there's absolutely nothing about the 'genre-crossing' nashville-approved country hits that's in any way supportive of racial harmony


I mean, the video makes Shelton’s attempt explicit (though, obviously, not in the most woke or nuanced way)

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 August 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

I'm reluctant to give Shelton the benefit of the doubt because he sucks.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

Hank Jr. is explicitly right wing, explicitly racist, explicitly a piece of shit so saying they turned him on when they could have said Johnny Cash or Willie or whoever is absolutely code

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

In April 2012, Trace Adkins announced that he was backing Mitt Romney in the presidential election. Part of the reason is that he's a proud supporter of the NRA, and feels Republicans better represent his ideology. “I don’t like the direction that Democrats want to take this country,” he said. “I’ve been a Republican since I registered to vote in 1980.”

In August, Adkins performed a new song called 'Tough People Do' that many wanted to call the "GOP anthem." He sang it at the Republican National Convention, but said it was a song for all people, no matter their political affiliation.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

Trace Adkins Set to Perform at Fundraiser Where Donald Trump Will Headline

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

If racists get triggered by OTR does that mean I have to like it

El Tomboto, Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

i think whiney is right these civil rights activists definitely deserve the benefit of the doubt

https://www.thedailybeast.com/in-trumps-america-homophobe-blake-shelton-is-the-sexiest-man-alive

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Hank Jr. is explicitly right wing, explicitly racist, explicitly a piece of shit so saying they turned him on when they could have said Johnny Cash or Willie or whoever is absolutely code

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:21 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Hank is pretty much who every country song uses as a signifier though (see "My Church," "How I'll Always Be," "Redneck Crazy," you could really do this forever) -- it's code, but code for "REAL country music, none of that pop crap," which obviously has certain implications baked in, but one step removed.

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 17 August 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

Bullshit that Trace Adkins hasn’t made any good music. The Stubborn One is an all time song.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 17 August 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

As posted above, there are a whole bunch of "real" country artists, depending on your taste. George Jones, Merle, Willie, Johnny Cash, Hank Sr., Waylon. They just happened to pick the one best known these days for being a reactionary racist.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link

he's he's beenike, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine) at 4:26 17 Aug 19

Hank Jr. is explicitly right wing, explicitly racist, explicitly a piece of shit so saying they turned him on when they could have said Johnny Cash or Willie or whoever is absolutely code

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:21 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Hank is pretty much who every country song uses as a signifier though (see "My Church," "How I'll Always Be," "Redneck Crazy," you could really do this forever) -- it's code, but code for "REAL country music, none of that pop crap," which obviously has certain implications baked in, but one step removed.

understood, also I believe the relationship between my post and your post is no coincidence

I remember reading this Tape Op interview with Roy Orbison's producer and he's been doing Roy records in Nashville, he gets called into a meeting with Fred Rose from Acuff Rose and a bunch of the founders of Nashville saying quit making n-word music in this town or you're done. to his credit he said fuck you and left

but they tolerated David Allen Coe's racist stuff, dudes like Johnny Rebel existed....parts of country music culture aren't deeply racist, including the Country Boy Can Survive shit everyone loved in my farm town high school

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

I will defend some of Hank, Jr.'s eighties music too -- tougher than that slushy period allowed.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 August 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link

whisky bent and hellbound is great

I just think it's so weird how ilx forever glosses over this stuff with country while ferreting out every way everything else is problematic

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 August 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link

You’re ridiculous bringing up David Allen Coe and Johnny Rebel’s dumbass private press mail order underground albums “existing” as an example of anything that has to do with Nashville.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 18 August 2019 07:17 (four years ago) link

There’s like exponentially more outwardly racist/fascist punk and metal bands

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 18 August 2019 07:19 (four years ago) link

I just think it's so weird how ilx forever glosses over this stuff with country while ferreting out every way everything else is problematic

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

"Gloss over" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 August 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

I heard a Charlie Daniels verse about how drug dealers should be lynched ("Simple Man") on a radio station in Chattanooga last year.

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 18 August 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

What, like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMzADAzipow

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 18 August 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

yes Whiney no shit do you really think there's any possible way I didn't know that?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

also feel free to address the articles I posted about yr boy Blake

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

"You're ridiculous for bringing up David Allen Coe in a conversation about race and country"

*brings up whaddabout Burzum in a conversation about race and country*

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

also feel free to address the articles I posted about yr boy Blake


My boy sounds like a real dumbass!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 18 August 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

So anyway, are some of you happy now

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8527749/billie-eilish-bad-guy-number-one-hot-100

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 August 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

Duh!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

Expect several good tweets from both camps are forthcoming

what else are you all “over” (Champiness), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Next OTR remix should feature Eilish.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link

xpost Well yes

congratulations to billie eilish!! u deserve this!!

— nope (@LilNasX) August 19, 2019

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 August 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

http://i.ibb.co/94wMYGF/Lil-Nas-x-Time.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link


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