Marvel Comics blabbery

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Because it's important to express an opinion when you have one.

Marvel will outlast fucking Perlmutter. It'll probably outlast its current corporate steward once Feige leaves and the movies start to suck shit and lose money. I'm firmly on board until they start regularly pissing all over themselves a la DC. And I will somehow still muster the will and the wherewithal to read and support (*gasp* *choke*) independent comics and their creators. It's a weird wild wonderful world.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Saturday, 17 August 2019 01:43 (nine months ago) link

Nobody brought up shitting on indie comics at all.

Nhex, Saturday, 17 August 2019 04:48 (nine months ago) link

I'm probably the only one who cares, but a little disappointed that the current version of Marvel Comics Presents will probably end with #9. It's been a fun book - the Soule Wolverine ongoing story is fun and I like the hidden conceit of this series - throwing characters into different real life time periods

I bought #8 (because of a Jessica Drew story), didn’t think it was very good, and was thrown for a loop by the ad for an indie rock band on the back cover — in the format of a one-page Avengers strip, à la the old Hostess comic book ads. Interesting marketing strategy, I guess.

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 05:57 (nine months ago) link

Found an old Spider-Man from a charity shop – with Giffen art! Story is Mantlo and trashy – Spider-Man fights gentrifying crime gangs! – but the art is nice. Rare Giffen Marvel moment maybe, in full Munoz mode

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 August 2019 13:53 (nine months ago) link

What year is that from?

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 14:11 (nine months ago) link

Has to be somewhere between March 1985 and... let's say June '87.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:23 (nine months ago) link

it's spectacular 120 iirc, so November 86

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:27 (nine months ago) link

my Giffen-sense was tingling!

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:34 (nine months ago) link

lol / wow apparently this was an inventory script from 1979 or earlier that got dug up for a fill-in during the black-suit Spidey era

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:46 (nine months ago) link

that's an awesome spread

Nhex, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:46 (nine months ago) link

I knew Bill Mantlo wrote quite a few Peter Parker issues...I'd guess #104 was also an inventory script.

The Spectacular Spider-Man #6, 9–10, 12–15, 17–34, 36–40, 42, 53, 61–89, 104, 120, Annual #1, 4 (1977–1986)

earlnash, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 00:49 (eight months ago) link

After barring the Spiegelman essay they commissioned for Marvel Comics #1000, Marvel have also censored political references from a Mark Waid essay about America in the same comic

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 29 August 2019 05:24 (eight months ago) link

"b&w books by depressed people about...I dunno, their feet or whatever" is a pretty weird way to characterize Kate Beaton

Anyway, anyone still reading Ms Marvel? New writer's first move was to whisk her away from the New Jersey setting that imo is the heart of the series for some tedious space opera business. Hoping it'll get better now she's back home, but I dunno...

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 August 2019 09:49 (eight months ago) link

It seemed a decent way to actually in-comic deal with "holy fuck I have just taken over a book that's both good and Important" - but I stopped after a few issues.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 29 August 2019 10:44 (eight months ago) link

"b&w books by depressed people about...I dunno, their feet or whatever" is a pretty weird way to characterize Kate Beaton

It was, how you say, a troll.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 August 2019 11:34 (eight months ago) link

Was Waid’s essay (including in its original form) meant to be in the voice of Captain America?

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:53 (eight months ago) link

the two hickman x-books are the only marvel stuff i've enjoyed + followed in a few years. are there other ongoings right now that are must-reads? or recent runs (like over the last 5 years) i may have overlooked?

Mordy, Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:18 (eight months ago) link

i'm enjoying Jason Aaron's ongoing run on Thor and I've not been a big fan of a lot of his other work! His style fits the character.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 29 August 2019 20:55 (eight months ago) link

The Immortal Thor run is pretty good two tpbs into it.

Frederik B, Thursday, 29 August 2019 21:59 (eight months ago) link

Immortal Hulk, not Thor. Goodnight everyone.

Frederik B, Thursday, 29 August 2019 22:00 (eight months ago) link

Almost every Marvel run I've read has been derailed sooner rather than later by being taken into space, and DC/Marvel visions of space are almost invariably as derivative and boring as fuck

And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:36 (eight months ago) link

If I wanted to read bad 1950s pulp SF I can get that free at Project Gutenberg

And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Friday, 30 August 2019 02:36 (eight months ago) link

Was Waid’s essay (including in its original form) meant to be in the voice of Captain America?

no, Waid himself wears a mask and carries a shield every day, even when he's typing or cooking

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 30 August 2019 04:25 (eight months ago) link

That would be a “sic” burn — except the original passage mentions none of those things and seems not to be written in Steve Rogers’ voice, while the 2nd one does and is, which I why I (naturally) wondered if the entire focus of the essay shifted. You should pause to consider the context before firing up your fearsome Sarcasm Eye Beams!

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 05:33 (eight months ago) link

I paused to assess the context of your parentheses before making a silly joke offering some 100% accurate information that I have about Mark Waid’s personal life

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 30 August 2019 05:49 (eight months ago) link


Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 05:52 (eight months ago) link

Btw — the Spider-Woman story in Marvel Comics Presents #8 is apparently one in a series depicting “previously untold tales of Marvel Heroes” dealing with “major historical events that for whatever reason we have not been able to fully wrestle with, either because they happened too quickly or even because they were too raw a subject.”

The “real-life event” tackled in this story is “Misinformation on Social Media” — which a long blurb describes as, “Bad information from bad sources [...] whose sole purpose was ad revenue based on clicks, with no regulation, peer control or obligation to the truth.”

I think the way they chose to frame this particular issue (“ad revenue”?) shows that Marvel may not yet be able, or at liberty, to fully wrestle with this particular subject. (Plus, the story sucks!)

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 30 August 2019 06:10 (eight months ago) link

yeah... they're not all winners tbf

Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:14 (eight months ago) link

I saw 'X-Men Red' mentioned in an article on HoXPoX, and read the first TPB this week. It's pretty great, all X-Men as political metaphor, with an emphasis on feminism. The writer, Tom Taylor, did the All New Wolverine book, so I'll check that out afterwards. That one ran 33 issues! That's an eternity for a new comic book. Hope it's as good as this, there are few things as pleasant as a good long comic run.

Frederik B, Saturday, 7 September 2019 14:06 (eight months ago) link

ANW starts out great – definitely check out The Four Sisters (Vol. 1). I eventually bailed b/c I didn’t like where it went after that.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Saturday, 7 September 2019 15:16 (eight months ago) link

All New Wolverine is a solid book, blessing the world with the character of Honey Badger. I agree it peters out a bit by the end, but it was worthwhile imo (the very last arc which is a what if?-style alternate future dig was real fun). Tom Taylor's the guy who also did the epic Injustice comic series of series.
The follow up-to ANW is X-23 by Mariko Tamaki which is OK but not probably quite as good. Tamaki's indie stuff is great, but her Marvel work has been just OK (see also her gray She-Hulk run).

Nhex, Saturday, 7 September 2019 15:33 (eight months ago) link

There’s a new Gwenpool miniseries,(Gwenpool Strokes Back), from a new creative team, but it’s really bad... they ruined the character, she’s annoying and unlikeable (and weirdly sexed-up). The art sucks, too.

It really reinforces the uniqueness of what Christopher Hastings (and Gurihiru) achieved in the original series.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 04:48 (eight months ago) link

(*Typo fix, it’s “...Strikes Back” — they’ll probably make a dumb pun like that though, the “humor” is at that level.)

#YABASIC (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 04:50 (eight months ago) link

Marvel was so great for a minute there; it’s really a bummer to me what‘s become of most the stuff I used to be so jazzed about. (I’m sure the complex,
time-spanning mutant epic is all right, but that’s not my kind of jam.)

#YABASIC (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 04:55 (eight months ago) link

current marvel books i will rep as readable at worst and greatly enjoyable at best:
Avengers, Conan (and Savage Sword of Conan), Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Guardians of the Galaxy, House of X / Powers of X, Immortal Hulk, Invisible Woman, King Thor, Loki, Punisher, "Punisher Kill Krew", Savage Avengers, Silver Surfer Black, Star Wars, Squirrel Girl, Valkyrie.

I know there's like six books forthcoming next month but is this the first moment since the 1950's that (limited series aside) there are NO currently running X books? Teenage me would be agog.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 04:57 (eight months ago) link

also, against every prediction i would've made, the War of the Realms crossover was both great fun and well done!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 04:58 (eight months ago) link

I’ve heard Star Wars is good, but I’ve never read a SW comic and it seems a little late to start now.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 05:43 (eight months ago) link

There aren't that many of them and I'd bet most libraries have the collections

The arcs are somewhat connected but tend to be writer-centric and you won't really need much backstory because, for the most part, it's just a continuation and extrapolation of the movies. The only exceptions would be the new Doctor Aphra character, although she bounces through situations that include a number of fringe movie characters and a brief period working with Vader

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:20 (eight months ago) link

kieron gillen's darth vader is really, really good

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:21 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, crucially they restarted everything around the time of The Force Awakens, so there's only a few years to catch up on.

And the Vader is really good.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:33 (eight months ago) link

little reminder that v1 of squadron supreme was hella fucked up
xp to comics heroes killing people too

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 03:42 (eight months ago) link

i should get around to reading that one of these days (and more Gruenwald in general)

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 04:19 (eight months ago) link

Take it to the only real contribution I’ve made to this board

#YABASIC (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 04:21 (eight months ago) link

I remember attempting to read Squadron Supreme because I'd heard the bullshit about it being the Marvel equivalent to the "seriousness" and "maturity" of Watchmen, and man was it a load of crap.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 07:03 (eight months ago) link

It’s kind of a weird, brutalist, Twilight Zone version of a comic miniseries, without Watchmen’s guardrails of literary respectability (and, I guess, “good writing”). I think Squadron’s bizarre scenarios are more disturbing, because they’re presented in a way that doesn’t tell you what to think about them.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 14:54 (eight months ago) link

dang new house of x got me all choked up

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 23:04 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Liefeld is going to sue Marvel over something Deadpool related, no further info at present.

But he did reveal they tried to sue him in 1996 for creating the Fighting American so he could self-publish fake Captain America stories. His lawyer turned up to court with the Marvel anthology of Fighting American, which the company brief didn't know existed, and showed the judge the Kirby and Simon ownership credit. Marvel also tried a supplementary lawsuit that FA shouldn't be allowed to have a shield, which failed also.

So, your CV says you're a (checks notes) DJ and stand-up comedian (aldo), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:59 (seven months ago) link

Are you sardonically reporting that Liefeld has a very confused misremembering of the Agent America lawsuit that was heavily reported on at the time, or are you accidentally misreporting Liefeld’s statement today, or...?

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:31 (seven months ago) link

Aldo's pretty much quoting directly from Liefeld, there.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:52 (seven months ago) link

For anyone who doesn’t remember 1996, then: unsurprisingly, Mr Liefeld’s account of events is not especially accurate.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:13 (seven months ago) link

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