The New Adventures of ILXor: The Animated Series Poll voting and campaigning thread

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Guys, I might've had one or two too many last weekend and ordered the GI Joe and Transformers complete series on DVD. That may have happened, who can say, really. But rather than feeling regret and shame in the wake of a grievous lapse of judgment I'm pleasantly surprised to announce that I'm finding GI Joe a goddamn delight. It's no wonder it appealed so heavily when I was age eight because it was clearly created by eight-year-olds. Like Tom Sciolli's revisionist history seems positively restrained the longer I watch this stuff. I don't think I've had such a 'this is nuts but I love it' permagrin plastered across my face since the last time I read Kirby's New Gods material.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Saturday, 17 August 2019 01:36 (four years ago) link

I don't think I've had the chance to share this beautiful Yoko Kanno/Maaya Sakamoto opening theme on any other threads. The Record of Lodoss War TV show was pretty bad so I think the song has largely been forgotten

https://youtu.be/9aUfGClzhdI

Vinnie, Saturday, 17 August 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link

i'm surprised to see that Gi joe seems like it holds up better than the Transformers cartoon (i'm assuming through omission).

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

also: the Zim Movie came out on Netflix yesterday! watched it immediately. was not disappointed.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

I adore Steven Universe, but agree that, while Peridot and Lapis' character arcs were done quite brilliantly, some of the later character "redemptions" definitely felt too convenient and far-fetched.

Personally I really like how it sticks to its guns and refussd to show violence as the ultimate answer to any conflict, and that there are always other options. Yes, some of the "redemptions" are quite convenient (though the show isn't still over, so we still might sees some repercussions of them), but on the other hand they never come from out of nowhere, it's always estabishled why and how someone might change their minds. Also, it's not like the show has ever said all the deeds of the antagonists are totally forgiven and forgotten, rather than that the antagonists are so powerful that fighting them would be futile, as they would only win, or (in the best case) everyone would die in the fight, with both of those options resulting in massive destruction and collateral damage. So the protagonists trying to come up with a third alternative to that doesn't strike me as bad moral, even if the nuances of guilt and forgiveness are beyond the scope a kids' sci-fi cartoon.

Tuomas, Saturday, 17 August 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

Sorry to be Claymation Guy again but...despite being an Aardman fan I'd never seen Rex The Runt until bow. It is the absolute best! Fine-spirited bonkers meta British surrealism, with a sense of humour well ahead of its time and some of the best callbacks I've seen. If you've ever smiled at Wallace & Gromit, give it a go

imago, Sunday, 18 August 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link

I don't love Aardman but always had a real soft spot for Rex the Runt.

So far I've only managed to do Neon Genesis Evangelion out of my 'to-watch' list but it will definitely make my ballot, it's ace.

I think I might have heard the shit things about John K before but forgot them completely until they were raised upthread. I'm torn about what to do but Ren & Stimpy was so ridiculously formative for me that I can't leave it off.

emil.y, Sunday, 18 August 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

Same. I can’t justify leaving R&S off, but I’ll probably never be able to enjoy his cartoons in the same way. So dropped it down accordingly.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 August 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link

Ditto about Ren and Stimpy. I hadn’t heard anything about the guy until this thread (also, didn’t he get fired in 1992 or something?) and that will make a difference to how I reflect on it, but as an early introduction to surrealist humour (surrealism in general?) it is unparalleled for me.

tangenttangent, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

*surreal humour, maybe. If there’s a difference?

Anyway, I can’t wait to see that anime about the princely girl and the rose queen.

tangenttangent, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

Really digging Gravity Falls now, Mabel is my hero, and the theme song is definitely making my ballot.

William Tao Overture (Leee), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

when ppl talk about voting for R&S itt seems reasonable to assume they are voting solely based on the first season and a half, which really are amazing cartoons.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

oh shit, the deadline is coming up. will hastily assemble a list

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

can theme songs only come from nominated series?

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

wanna vote for that catdog theme

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

ren and stimpy is a tough call because the cartoons (the early, good ones) do hold up beautifully, and a lot of non-awful ppl were involved in their making. but the fact that their creator used them to groom his victims makes it hard for me to vote for it.

i watched some of john k's later cartoons before he was outed as a predator, and they are probably some of the worst cartoons i've ever seen -- not funny, weird timing, incredibly inappropriate adult humor. i saw about 30 seconds of his R&S revival and that was more than enough for me.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

as with series themselves, theme songs can be from unnominated works but you risk your vote being discounted if I can't figure out what you mean.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

I believe I have 5 ballots so far! Surely there's at least 20 of you floating around waiting to vote.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

i'm doing due diligence and finally watching eva this week before i vote

ciderpress, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

i've been watching stuff too as if my potential ballot needed to be any longer. eventually i'm going to have to prune 40 show down to 25. (it was hard enough getting the list down to 40)

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link

btw if I end up being the only Homestar Runner voter you're all fired

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

do u like happy tree friends too? i nom'd it but it won't make my list unfortunately i'd love to vote for them all if i could

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

nah I never got into that

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link

xp i wouldn't worry about that

ciderpress, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

I wish I had time to watch a bunch of stuff before I made my own ballot but it's probably not happening.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

I voted. For this poll, I checked out 10 series I hadn't seen before, and 5 of them ended up in my ballot. I'm glad that Steven Universe and Bee and Puppycat are now in my life.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

August 25th is a soft deadline, need confirmation on the actual deadline

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link

Was David The Gnome actually good? How about the original TMNT? X-Men? Etc... I will vote some of these because of nostalgia but I have at least 10 shows from the past decade that I know are good so I don’t really care. I probably will even put Garfield And Friends on my list (I haven’t started).

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link

Oh hey, David The Gnome wasn’t even on the nom list. I’m voting for it anyways.

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link

The hard deadline will come with an unknown amount of warning sometime between Sunday evening and the end of the end of time.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link

It’s entirely #valid to vote for Garfield and Friends just to honor the inimitable Lorenzo Music

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:34 (four years ago) link

garfield and friends was good

ciderpress, Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link

Secret fact: I know G&F was good and own a few seasons on DVD

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

it features garfield's famous catchphrase, "they should be dragged out into the street and shot"

ciderpress, Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link

Damn that's cold, Garfield

Vinnie, Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link

i nominated homestarrunner and will def be voting for it! tho wow this deadline is sneaking up and I am moving this weekend so uh

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link

David the Gnome should be on the nom list because I nommed it! Just watch the last episode if you're unsure whether it's up to snuff.

Dez Tekken (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

I have never seen any of Garfield & Friends but I don't have any trouble imagining it's Evanier's third-best fictional work

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 22 August 2019 03:02 (four years ago) link

xp and it's all on youtube! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKttx8SgnHA&list=PLrEuz9dJQmAkIYkhcB4iZpoOlUDnMNDif&index=26

Mordy, Thursday, 22 August 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link

My recollection of Garfield & Friends is that it was pretty much a proto-Gen X cartoon. About as sardonic and cynical and meta and edgy as a Saturday morning cartoon could've been at that time, and obviously a big promoter of slack life.

Dez Tekken (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

I was going to extend a vain hope that the G&F DVDs might get a reissue after Nickelodeon's recent acquisition of PAWS but I see that someone is rolling out cheap new sets right now.

Dez Tekken (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

Ok found it: World of David the Gnome, The

I picked a good episode to watch: Shadowless Stone EP 19

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

a problem with G&F is that the orson's farm sections were entirely forgettable, and they were half the show.

adam the (abanana), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

Yeah, they pushed U.S. Acres a little too hard.

Dez Tekken (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link

Hell, the tenure of those animated segments far outlasted the comic strip they were based on.

Dez Tekken (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link

The farm bit was good in its own way but suffered from being the opener to a highly anticipated 3rd act starring Garfield.

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

Any consideration for setting the ballot deadline after Labor Day?

William Tao Overture (Leee), Friday, 23 August 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

I can probably give it an official bump back sure

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 23 August 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

I start a new job on September 9 (!) so no matter what happens I will be sending compiled results to Leee and Thermo to run a rollout before then.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 23 August 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

Ah, cool that it's being bumped back, I was just coming on to say that I wouldn't be able to submit by tonight.

emil.y, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link


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