The August 2019 US Politics Thread is dumb (stupid}

ok lmao at this stock image

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/well-round-you-up-black-community-leaders-sent-threatening-letters-in-north-carolina/

even for Trump this is pretty bad

It would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep.Tlaib to visit. They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2019

They hate Israel & all Jewish people

FUCK all the GOP for hand waving this shit away . what a fucking shit head

Leake said that she has forwarded her letter to the FBI for investigation, although the agency says it is not presently investigating the incidents.

well okay then

oh great good old Bibi siding with fuck face

I kind of hope they just embalm the Bronze Turd's corpse wherever he happens to fall when he finally expires. It would be so much more satisfying than just taking a squirt on his gravestone.

prone before dressing mirror, corset nearly tied, his asymmetrically long hair hanging past his shoulder

face down in the rough on his golf course, mid-cheat, frozen in the act of dropping a new ball

goggled and mouth agape in tanning bed

fairly certain that's a libellous statement from the prez

Yeah, if I was either of those women I'd have a libel lawyer on the phone already.

"what if being the presinetn is just like being on a reality show- because, folks, it IS a reality show. the best reality. what are they gonna do?"

the same ppl whose ONLY issue with immigrants is that "they need to follow the law!" now side with dude trying to run over protesters at ICE facility cause the protesters were in the road. That's illegal! What kind of society will we be if we allow ppl who violate border and traffic laws to not be subjected to vigilante death penalties???

I am pretty sure that this is an impeachable offense

if a Dem president did it at least

sneak peak of what 2020's gonna be like

Representatives Omar and Tlaib are the face of the Democrat Party, and they HATE Israel!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2019

if the prez tweets it, that means it is not libel

(does libel even exist in the US anymore, srsly?)

btw frogbs it is "sneak peek" tho i see the other all the time now

any time I see “sneak peak” I pause to imagine the writer having a quiet orgasm in public about the topic, suppressing outward symptoms, and then immediately boasting about it

never noticed that mountaintop before, what a sneak peak

I suggest y'all read this thread.

The following thread builds on yesterday's.

1. I understand why it’s hard for normal people to believe that white evangelical Christians are sadists. Normal people have never been, as I was a long time ago, on the inside of that shadowy religious world.

— John Stoehr's Editorial Board (@johnastoehr) August 15, 2019

more great news about how great everything is in america
http://www.grubstreet.com/2019/08/trump-tariffs-european-cheese.html

(does libel even exist in the US anymore, srsly?)

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:51 PM (one hour ago)

Srsly, can someone answer this? Although tbf situation seems similar in the UK.

UK always made it easier to prove, i thought?

starting to think this Yang guy has what it takes to be President

https://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-yang-calls-trump-fat-and-a-slob-2019-8

Yang concluded that Trump could probably beat him at "something that involved, like, trying to keep something on the ground and having really large body mass — like, if there was a hot-air balloon that was rising and you needed to try and keep it on the ground, he would be better than me at that, because he is so fat."

I mean how is that not a Clickhole quote

Omar and Tlaib would fall in the category of public figures, so --

History of Defamation and the First Amendment
In the landmark 1964 case of New York Times v. Sullivan, the U.S. Supreme Court held that certain defamatory statements were protected by the First Amendment. The case involved a newspaper article that said unflattering things about a public figure, a politician. The Court pointed to "a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open." The Court acknowledged that in public discussions -- especially about public figures like politicians -- mistakes can be made. If those mistakes are "honestly made," the Court said, they should be protected from defamation actions. The court made a rule that public officials could sue for statements made about their public conduct only if the statements were made with "actual malice."

"Actual malice" means that the person who made the statement knew it wasn't true, or didn't care whether it was true or not and was reckless with the truth -- for example, when someone has doubts about the truth of a statement but does not bother to check further before publishing it.

Later cases have built upon the New York Times rule, so that now the law balances the rules of defamation law with the interests of the First Amendment. The result is that whether defamation is actionable depends on what was said, who it was about, and whether it was a subject of public interest and thus protected by the First Amendment.

Private people who are defamed have more protection than public figures -- freedom of speech isn't as important when the statements don't involve an issue of public interest. A private person who is defamed can prevail without having to prove that the defamer acted with actual malice.

Actual malice seems pretty easy to establish in this case, idk

Trump himself has advocated for "tightening up" libel/slander laws, sadlol

"Your honour, my client demonstrably hates everyone who has ever lived, bar Vladimir Putin and Ivanka Trump. Thus, he cannot hold nor direct any individual animus, and this case must be dismissed as frivolous prima facie."

"In meetings, at dinners and in passing conversations, Mr. Trump has asked advisers whether the U.S. can acquire Greenland...and, according to two of the people, has asked his White House counsel to look into the idea" https://t.co/mpXoqLRQWr

— Aman Batheja (@amanbatheja) August 15, 2019

xp you joke but i'm sure that will absolutely be used as a legal defense if it hasn't already

it's already how his supporters justify him routinely going after PoC, "he insults everyone!", not exactly the best defense of the man

erik the red's canny marketing still paying dividends

lol

lol Greenland unbelievable

you joke but i'm sure that will absolutely be used as a legal defense if it hasn't already

I'm not convinced I was joking

the South Park defense

they all laughed at Seward and Alaska

now they're dying to get in

Tlaib gets to visit her grandma

I'd be cool with them buying Greenland and making it a white nationalist colony, but only for one winter, outside, and with no shelter or supplies. Airfare included.

No wonder he's hellbent on speeding up global warming.

Reality tv options on the battle for supremacy among white supremacists over the former Greenland might be interesting.
Don't people already live there though, so what happens to them and surely it would be cheating if existing shelter was allowed to be used.

They could rename it Whiteland.

The 50,000 or so living there already can watch the white supremacists freeze to death.

sorry I'm still back on Yang

wow lol wtf how is this real

"the President is too fat, vote for me instead" is not the political platform I find inspiring

"the President is too fat, vote for me instead" is not the political platform I find inspiring

Me either, but "Ha ha! Go get 'em, glibertarian asshole I'd never even consider voting for!" is a fun feeling, even if just for a moment.

"How fat is he!?!?!????!?"

"The president is so fat ... when he orders take out they just give him the keys to the restaurant."

"The president is so fat ... he had to get his gold-plated toilet in double-wide."

"The president is so fat ... they quickly hung a 'closed' sign on the Iowa State Fair when they heard he might be visiting. Thanks you everybody, you all have been great, I'm Andrew Yang, and I'm running for president."

good morning!

Me either, but "Ha ha! Go get 'em, glibertarian asshole I'd never even consider voting for!" is a fun feeling, even if just for a moment.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel this BUT STILL

The president is so fat...when he arrives the band plays "Hail to the Beef"

can we rename "I Love Everything" to "I Love Jay Leno"

PowerPoint! PowerPoint!

The president is so fat...when he arrives the band plays "Hail to the Beef"

ok this one is funny

Yang is an idiot, but I seriously believe that if someone treated Trump the way he treats others (making fun of his appearance, etc.) there is a 50-50 chance he cries on national television.

So I say, go for it Dems.

I can't see him crying, but I do see him getting really angry and doing a mock-Chinese voice