it's actually spelled smoykin'
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
I think Kim Salmon borrowed a lot from Fogerty's vocals at least in Scientists days.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
km lol
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
I've been working my way through the giant Woodstock 38-CD set and what's great about Creedence is that you're just coming out of a doomed Grateful Dead set - no way Owsley's sound rig for the Dead was going to be compatible with the Woodstock system - so there's 95 minutes of so of haplessness. Weir getting shocked, false starts, everyone yelling at Oswley, a directionless 40min of "Turn On Your Lovelight" that both exemplifies the lack of PA and the worst qualities of the Dead. Then CCR shows up, cleans the place out like the Ramones, and are gone in 30. The mix cranks the volume on Clifford's bass drum for maximum choogle.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:34 (four years ago) link
I salute your dedication, thanks for the summary of that Dead set which I won't listen to but expect to be sampled soon
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link
Lol
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
Noticing Doug Clifford’s massive hi-hats (18”, which is insane) in a CCR clip, I went looking for an interview where he talks about his gear, and found this great quote:
Al [Jackson, Jr.] said to me, “What are your goals?” I said, “I want to be a metronome.” He said, “Why would you want to be a metronome? A metronome is a machine.” I said, “But I want to be on.” Al held up one finger. “Look,” he said, “here’s the beat. The right side of the finger is edging the beat—not going past it but a bit on that side of it. The left side is when you’re pulling it back, maybe from a solo and back into a verse, or from a chorus. Then there’s the middle of the finger. That’s okay too. It can be a verse or something else. You move these notes.”Growing up, I had listened to Little Richard and heard those cats go into an instrumental section and they would just jump, all moving together. I mentioned that to Al, and he said, “We’re humans, that’s the beauty of it.” That’s one of the greatest gifts I’ve ever received from another player. It helped me to be me. I don’t play perfect time. The groove is a living thing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 August 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link
18" hi-hats, wtf
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 August 2019 05:35 (four years ago) link
HI-HATS
― j., Thursday, 15 August 2019 05:43 (four years ago) link
Fogerty on the Woodstock set:
I’d seen the Dead live a few times around the Bay Area, and I knew their reputation. At the time, I was what you would call pissed off. They sabotaged our chance in the limelight. But over time, I have developed quite an affection for the Dead. They mumbled their way through a career and they outlasted the Man. They changed the paradigm by doing it their own way, and they made it work. But at Woodstock, they were just a bunch of drugged-out hippies.
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
They mumbled their way through a career and they outlasted the Man.
No one's ever put it better!
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link
Lol, seconded
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
the mumbling part is right, they did not outlast the man
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
sadly, the man has legs
I want to say Hunt Sales had huge cymbals ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
do it say it
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
Is that a euphemism?
― Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
Ccr is a good place to start if you’re learning to play guitar (forget the Beatles) - easy chords and strong rhythm
― calstars, Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
Do you think that is why The Minutemen started there?
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
otm with beginner guitar. Me and my spouse have been playing a bunch recently, and it’s so awesome that pretty much every CCR song is extremely easy to play
― Z S - Amazon FC Ambassador (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
A lot of his stuff is in drop d, that could be the only snag for a beginner. But even in standard tuning his songs are so immediately identifiable that it's very satisfying to even approximate them.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link
Re the Minutemen, I'm not sure it's because covering CCR was relatively easy, I think it's mostly because Fogerty was a protest singer that flew the flannel.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
They’re also good for easy leads, eg the Bayou riff which is just an E7 (you don’t even have to move your left hand) and Green River. Then there’s the major key Up Around the Bend and Fortunate Son riffs which are good ways to learn different chord voicings up the neck
― calstars, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
Green River can be tricky because that are so many guitars on it, each throwing in these iconic little licks.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
yeah Green River is hard if you try to play all those riffs on one guitar!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
eg the Bayou riff which is just an E7 (you don’t even have to move your left handAlways think this is a major component of the “swampy” sound, basically a Mixolydian vamp that may change chords but doesn’t sound like a blues and mostly stays on the I7 the majority of the time. See also “Polk Salad Annie.”
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
Seems like I found few hits of bands playing a medley of those two songs.
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
Daltrey struggles with the riff here, but his voice is perfect for it. https://youtu.be/YYYxad4SxKY
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
Bayou specifically, that Pops Staples tremelo is key.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link
Also, the choogling.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 August 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link
Good point about Pops
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link
This article ties it all together and singles out the missing link between the two songs in question, James Burton on “Susie Q.”https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/22707-forgotten-heroes-pops-staples?page=4
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
And thishttp://www.davehoekstra.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pops_staples.pdf
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link
Still can take or leave the bass solo on Woodstock “Suzie Q” but it’s still better than Skip Battin, say.Lol at Roger Daltrey saying “It’s the only thing I remember about Woodstock.”
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
Unexpected Bayou:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUCpCOx3zBk
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 August 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
wow!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link
re: the vinyl, ending side 1 with aimless between-song tuning was a weird choice
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link
lol, at the end of side 2 there's more fiddling, fogerty says 'now we'd like to do a song called i put a spell on you', side ends
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
here's a nice cover of "born on the bayou" by an indian garage band from the early '70s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DHSU-5jcQ
"durango" by jj cale also has that same sort of choogle
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Friday, 16 August 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
A key CCR moment for me was honestly buying the first Richard Hell album and hearing the awesome cover of "Walk on the Water." Must have been middle school? Whenever it was, it was the first time I realized there was more to the band than their 20 or so hits.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 August 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link
dang i love the deranged voice on that x'lents recording
― Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link
― willem, Friday, 16 August 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
yep
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
i mean, the song's on side 3, but.. how could that have even happened
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
If side 3 launches right into the song, I guess I can see why they may have cut it that way
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
Yes that's why but.. surely you put the intro at the start of Side 3 or cut it out entirely??
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
I have been thinking about who was as relentless at this time and I keep coming back to Buddy Guy
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
I mean, I don't know what style he was playing at the time but he can do a similar kind of throbbing, hypnotic shred-out
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
Love Buddy Guy.
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
Are they playing the “Born on the Bayou” riff slightly different here than on the studio version? Here I here two high Es in a row.
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 August 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link