Bobcat Goldthwait vs. Jerry Seinfeld

Seinfeld is the far better show imo

both misanthropic jerks (or at least that's their public schtick) but with Larry it's endearing & relatable

I wonder what Jerry think of "Shakes the Clown". Would he hate it because how brutal it's take on standups is?

Re:misanthropy, Bobcat's Falling Down ripoff movie God Bless America was so dumb I couldnt even bother being offended. Would def classify the writer/director of that shit as a uniquely angry misanthrope.

feel like Seinfeld could not have worked if Jerry was anything but a total asshole

Seinfeld is a great sitcom, several of Bobcat’s movies are good & fascinating, Jerry Seinfeld is a creepy asshole, Bob Goldthwait is a creepy mensch

Jerry talks a lot about how hard he works (at writing 2-3 minutes of his own material a year), Bobcat keeps working hard (directing hours & hours of other ppl’s material a year)

Like, Seinfeld's current show, he often seems as or more interested in whatever rare luxury car he is driving than in his guest.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:56 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I find his show intermittently entertaining but it is weird how comfortable he is with being a total asshole

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:57 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

being cruel to wage slaves, making offhandedly racist jokes, making fun of poor people, crowing about not having any feelings or inner life etc.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:59 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

voted seinfeld

can anyone seriously claim Seinfeld has ever had 45 seconds as glorious as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFOXs5HfQTc

(directing hours & hours of other ppl’s material a year)

Or I guess last year’s TV show may have been all written by him? Eight half-hour stand-alone satire/horror films >> making fun of homeless ppl while someone pays you to drive an expensive car past them (although I watched the latter & will probably never see the former, #partoftheproblem)

This was 1986!

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-stand-ups/n9409

is Bobcat's Seinfeld impression on the internet?

I think I just learned that Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee stars Jerry Seinfeld, not Jay Leno

leno was only in one but insisted on equal billing iirc

Seinfeld is probably better than anything Bobcat has been involved in (the latter's episode of The Larry Sanders Show notwithstanding), but I am pretty sure I like and am far more interested in Bobcat Goldthwait as a person than Seinfeld, so I dunno.

bobcat because of nirvana unplugged, i guess

Bob Goldthwait is a creepy mensch

I dont even see whats creepy about him tbh. "Worlds Greatest Dad" is a really great movie imo, so Bobcat all the way

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I dont even see whats creepy about him tbh.

only one of these men dated a 17-year-old when they were 39

― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:38 AM (three hours ago)

I'll allow that dating a 19-year-old when you are 35 is less bad, but it's not ideal

Jerry Seinfeld saying what he said about Bobcat on his show was terribly classless and petty. He could easily have edited it out, but he didn't because he's a little bitch.

Seinfeld was one of the best stand-up comics of his generation, and his sitcom is a classic.

Bobcat Goldthwait has directed two outstanding comedies, Shakes the Clown and World's Greatest Dad, which is two more than Jerry Seinfeld has ever directed, or probably ever will.

Goldthwait is a very funny stand-up comedian, so Seinfeld calling him unfunny is straight up slander.

I still watch and love “Seinfeld” to this day and will assert that the DNA of that show is at least 80% Larry David judging by Curb and various other things.

I don’t know Bobcat’s comedy super well, but he seems like a genuinely decent and interesting human being with artistic vision while Jerry irl seems awful and like the worst caricature of a rich person.

Bobcat.

The one character that Jerry played vs the one that Bobcat always ended up cast to play = Bobcat in a landslide

six voters jinxed Bobcat: hospitalised with broken ribs & a concussion from a car crash before (not) taping a new special last night.

I gotta be honest, I just kind of assume that Jerry Seinfeld is some sort of living embodiment of "superdickery". Like one day he'll come out to us all and say "I've been behaving like an insufferable asshole for all these years as part of a convoluted and highly implausible scheme to foil an alien invasion!" It makes me feel better, at least.

Strikes against bobcat, IMO:

- sent some super creepo Instagram messages to a very young female comedian friend of mine
- worst goatee in show business
- still asking people to refer to him, in his late 50s, as “Bobcat”

Would you prefer Robertcat?

something more adult like that, or BobLion

why is seinfeld being an asshole such a big topic in yer lives

feel like his unapologetic approach to it is refreshing and ought to have neutralised or countered in advance the usual wetness like

'Unapologetic' isn't so convincing when you spend your time whining about college kids not finding you funny.

I dunno it seems of a piece tbh he complains about lots of things

'Unapologetic' isn't so convincing when you spend your time whining about college kids not finding you funny.

― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd)

also old men who are obsessed about what college kids think about them tend to have more than a little al capp in them

its def true that both have been 'obsessed' with college kids over the years, in a couple different ways

the only way to decide this important question is to ask jerry seinfeld and bobcat goldthwait to sprint at each other and collide at full speed. whoever makes the most sense at the end wins

The best sitcom ever was Barney Miller.

Goldthwait wins this for the cover of his only (I wonder why) album:

https://img.discogs.com/4leSOQ-eMRCPx1dMAmlk5nl2A0o=/fit-in/600x578/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1768359-1394571808-2955.jpeg.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/40/71/8c407184039ca3c35016a03f81f3dd18.jpg