The New Adventures of ILXor: The Animated Series Poll voting and campaigning thread

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i wanted to like steven universe and it's certainly something i would have liked to have had as a child, but it can be too corny at times for me and the overall morals of it are a mess - "it's possible to talk to and work things out with your enemies" is admirable enough for a kids show but when it extends that to even the main villains who lead a genocidal alien empire it doesn't really land at all

ufo, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:40 (four years ago) link

Harvey Birdman and Sealab are both still pretty funny, Sealab maybe less pleasant overall, and it falls off pretty hard.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

luckily i am certain that space ghost coast to coast still holds up

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

i would love to watch avatar before i file my ballot but i'm pretty sure i won't have time

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxECJNYPuA

Mordy, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

I really appreciate all the anime recommends. I have a rare amount of time on my hands this month and will gladly devour what I can before nominating. I’m sure at least a couple of new-to-me shows will sneak onto my ballot.

Still enjoying A Place Further Than the Universe. I loved the episode that was just the battling neuroses of two characters (the stubborn one and the one who doesn’t like other people being considerate towards her). I’ve also never seen an anime that felt so naturalistically contemporary.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

I'm not an anime head but in the course of researching nominations I somehow stumbled upon this weird show (The World of Golden Eggs) which made me laugh for the few minutes that I watched it and which it looks like no one has ever discussed in the searchable history of ILX:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx6ZdoWB-6s

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

Harvey Birdman was excellent, I really should give it a rewatch. I have the DVD box set somewhere.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link

i can't stop screaming about how brilliant the big o is. i just got into the second season and it echoes evangelion even more than i remembered? in its own very noir way of course, but still folding into complex inward universes just all of the sudden, like it's no big deal

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link

Oh - i have the Birman dvs somewhere too!

I had to bail on Steven Universe. Gravity Falls got more enjoyable as it went along, but SU was the opposite for me.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

I'm watching through S1 of Gravity Falls. Initial episodes made it seem like it'd be a slightly "fractured" (per bullwinkle show) Family Values sitcom. It's better than that.

adam the (abanana), Thursday, 15 August 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link

its interesting how a lot of current shows have that same artwork those 2 shows do, with the very curvey heads/big mouths thing going on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 16 August 2019 05:28 (four years ago) link

...or I dunno maybe it is just those 2, haha.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 16 August 2019 05:28 (four years ago) link

Is Neon Genesis Evangelion worth watching? I know there's not really time now. I watched an episode once and wasn't sure...I'm not big into sci-fi/fantasy, unless it has a strong emotional core that transcends the genre constraints.

tangenttangent, Friday, 16 August 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

yes, it has a very strong emotional core that transcends the genre constraints

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

i consider it one of the major works of art of the past thirty years but ymmv

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

I never even finished it but yes, watch it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

Be prepared for a lot of screaming.

I'm a few episodes into She-Ra season 2, and my socks are still on my feet. However, I'm pretty sure that Catra is secretly the show's main character.

I watched a couple eps of Gravity Falls, and it's pretty funny, though I'm yet to be hooked.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Friday, 16 August 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

Eva is classic and is, a little bit, set up to lure in casual mecha fans by appearing to merely be a mecha show with some edgy trimming and mysteries etc. It doesn't necessarily stop being that, but yeah the emotional/psychological stuff develops.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 16 August 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

Thanks! I’m good with screaming. I will get around to it then. Though alas, not in time for voting. Finding so much that is highly promising from this list!

tangenttangent, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

omg each episode of Pat and Mat is a perfect demonstration of entropy; I adore it so, so much

imago, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

its interesting how a lot of current shows have that same artwork those 2 shows do, with the very curvey heads/big mouths thing going on.

Sometimes disparaged as the "CalArts Style", usually by everything-sucks-these-days types on 4Chan and social media.

Gravity Falls suffered some long delays between episodes in its initial run (a very common problem with cartoons lately), but it was a really fun series to follow and discuss as it came out, with all the codes, cryptic clues, spoken or visual hints of the larger plot, etc. A fundamentalist Christian put up a video rant on Youtube about this evil show transmitting "Satanic symbols" to unsuspecting children, which was jokingly considered essential viewing by the fanbase.

I adore Steven Universe, but agree that, while Peridot and Lapis' character arcs were done quite brilliantly, some of the later character "redemptions" definitely felt too convenient and far-fetched. The plot pacing takes sudden leaps at times too.

Duane Barry, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

Guys, I might've had one or two too many last weekend and ordered the GI Joe and Transformers complete series on DVD. That may have happened, who can say, really. But rather than feeling regret and shame in the wake of a grievous lapse of judgment I'm pleasantly surprised to announce that I'm finding GI Joe a goddamn delight. It's no wonder it appealed so heavily when I was age eight because it was clearly created by eight-year-olds. Like Tom Sciolli's revisionist history seems positively restrained the longer I watch this stuff. I don't think I've had such a 'this is nuts but I love it' permagrin plastered across my face since the last time I read Kirby's New Gods material.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Saturday, 17 August 2019 01:36 (four years ago) link

I don't think I've had the chance to share this beautiful Yoko Kanno/Maaya Sakamoto opening theme on any other threads. The Record of Lodoss War TV show was pretty bad so I think the song has largely been forgotten

https://youtu.be/9aUfGClzhdI

Vinnie, Saturday, 17 August 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link

i'm surprised to see that Gi joe seems like it holds up better than the Transformers cartoon (i'm assuming through omission).

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

also: the Zim Movie came out on Netflix yesterday! watched it immediately. was not disappointed.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

I adore Steven Universe, but agree that, while Peridot and Lapis' character arcs were done quite brilliantly, some of the later character "redemptions" definitely felt too convenient and far-fetched.

Personally I really like how it sticks to its guns and refussd to show violence as the ultimate answer to any conflict, and that there are always other options. Yes, some of the "redemptions" are quite convenient (though the show isn't still over, so we still might sees some repercussions of them), but on the other hand they never come from out of nowhere, it's always estabishled why and how someone might change their minds. Also, it's not like the show has ever said all the deeds of the antagonists are totally forgiven and forgotten, rather than that the antagonists are so powerful that fighting them would be futile, as they would only win, or (in the best case) everyone would die in the fight, with both of those options resulting in massive destruction and collateral damage. So the protagonists trying to come up with a third alternative to that doesn't strike me as bad moral, even if the nuances of guilt and forgiveness are beyond the scope a kids' sci-fi cartoon.

Tuomas, Saturday, 17 August 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

Sorry to be Claymation Guy again but...despite being an Aardman fan I'd never seen Rex The Runt until bow. It is the absolute best! Fine-spirited bonkers meta British surrealism, with a sense of humour well ahead of its time and some of the best callbacks I've seen. If you've ever smiled at Wallace & Gromit, give it a go

imago, Sunday, 18 August 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link

I don't love Aardman but always had a real soft spot for Rex the Runt.

So far I've only managed to do Neon Genesis Evangelion out of my 'to-watch' list but it will definitely make my ballot, it's ace.

I think I might have heard the shit things about John K before but forgot them completely until they were raised upthread. I'm torn about what to do but Ren & Stimpy was so ridiculously formative for me that I can't leave it off.

emil.y, Sunday, 18 August 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

Same. I can’t justify leaving R&S off, but I’ll probably never be able to enjoy his cartoons in the same way. So dropped it down accordingly.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 August 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link

Ditto about Ren and Stimpy. I hadn’t heard anything about the guy until this thread (also, didn’t he get fired in 1992 or something?) and that will make a difference to how I reflect on it, but as an early introduction to surrealist humour (surrealism in general?) it is unparalleled for me.

tangenttangent, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

*surreal humour, maybe. If there’s a difference?

Anyway, I can’t wait to see that anime about the princely girl and the rose queen.

tangenttangent, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

Really digging Gravity Falls now, Mabel is my hero, and the theme song is definitely making my ballot.

William Tao Overture (Leee), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

when ppl talk about voting for R&S itt seems reasonable to assume they are voting solely based on the first season and a half, which really are amazing cartoons.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

oh shit, the deadline is coming up. will hastily assemble a list

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

can theme songs only come from nominated series?

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

wanna vote for that catdog theme

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

ren and stimpy is a tough call because the cartoons (the early, good ones) do hold up beautifully, and a lot of non-awful ppl were involved in their making. but the fact that their creator used them to groom his victims makes it hard for me to vote for it.

i watched some of john k's later cartoons before he was outed as a predator, and they are probably some of the worst cartoons i've ever seen -- not funny, weird timing, incredibly inappropriate adult humor. i saw about 30 seconds of his R&S revival and that was more than enough for me.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

as with series themselves, theme songs can be from unnominated works but you risk your vote being discounted if I can't figure out what you mean.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

I believe I have 5 ballots so far! Surely there's at least 20 of you floating around waiting to vote.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

i'm doing due diligence and finally watching eva this week before i vote

ciderpress, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

i've been watching stuff too as if my potential ballot needed to be any longer. eventually i'm going to have to prune 40 show down to 25. (it was hard enough getting the list down to 40)

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link

btw if I end up being the only Homestar Runner voter you're all fired

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

do u like happy tree friends too? i nom'd it but it won't make my list unfortunately i'd love to vote for them all if i could

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

nah I never got into that

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link

xp i wouldn't worry about that

ciderpress, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

I wish I had time to watch a bunch of stuff before I made my own ballot but it's probably not happening.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

I voted. For this poll, I checked out 10 series I hadn't seen before, and 5 of them ended up in my ballot. I'm glad that Steven Universe and Bee and Puppycat are now in my life.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

August 25th is a soft deadline, need confirmation on the actual deadline

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link

Was David The Gnome actually good? How about the original TMNT? X-Men? Etc... I will vote some of these because of nostalgia but I have at least 10 shows from the past decade that I know are good so I don’t really care. I probably will even put Garfield And Friends on my list (I haven’t started).

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link


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