Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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Wait, I've never turned lights on or off with a battery-powered remote. That is not a backward step I accept!

Landlines, though. Still had one until 2011. I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person who finds it physically difficult to converse satisfyingly on a smartphone.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 01:08 (three months ago) link

i hate talking on the phone now, it makes me antsy and eager to get off the phone. but i don't know if that is something abt the phone itself, or how my expectations and practices around phones have changed, esp thru texting taking the place of calls for almost all the things i used to make calls for. and the ppl on the other end feeling the same way and distracted and eager to get off the phone too.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 01:24 (three months ago) link

everyone hates talking on the phone now.
it's social anxiety and because we have so many job related activities where one is on the phone all the time.

Yerac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 01:28 (three months ago) link

although my mom still chats away like she is teenager of the year.

Yerac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 01:28 (three months ago) link

It used to be that after CRT and plasma declined, televisions were a forced compromise: backlit LCD or nothing, which suck for watching films (bad shadow levels, motion smoothing, etc etc). I white-knuckled the gap between plasma and OLED by self-repairing my plasma when the power supply failed, and then buying a used plasma which got me through (barely, with lines on the screen and driver failures) just until the OLEDs came down enough for me to consider an end-of-line clearance price.
Now of course I have the best TV of my life - it's kind of ironic because my film library is worth probably 5-10 times as much as the screen I watch them on.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 02:05 (three months ago) link

Landlines were easier to have a conversation on because it was in real time. Cellphones have gotten better, but they're still bouncing audio off of metal towers like a pinball machine. Landlines were the technological final product of an evolution that began with two cans and a piece of string, and worked just fine.

I have the same tv remote problem with my microwave.

Are there really cars out there that combat drowsiness by not letting itself drift over any white or yellow line unless the blinker is on?] Because I will lose my shit, that's all there is to it.

pplains, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 02:45 (three months ago) link

things have gotten a bit better, but even as the early playstation era was happening i remember thinking "wow it sucks that i have to wait 15 seconds for every other screen to load". that was in stark contrast to the near-instant load times of the cartridge based systems at the time and of the recent past.

of course, we were all more than willing to wait as long as it took to gedda load of them polygams

https://i.imgur.com/KKf0O1X.jpg

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 02:49 (three months ago) link

When you buy a new video game and it has to spend an assload of time downloading "updates" before you can play the fucking thing.

Also Denny's getting rid of the Breakfast Dagwood

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 04:00 (three months ago) link

like, just trying to see what the hourly weather forecast for tomorrow is involves a lot more clicking and waiting than it did a few years ago”

(since you’re not opposed to using google:) google “(city) weather” once, ctrl+h “wea” for every instance after

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 04:04 (three months ago) link

P much any form of watching tv now.

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 04:23 (three months ago) link

Are you guys saying landlines don't sound as good as they used to, or that cellphones don't sound as good as landlines? I agree with the latter, but as for the former, my landline still sounds great. I would never have a conversation on my cellphone unless I was away from home.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 04:30 (three months ago) link

We have a landline so we can put the number on paperwork, and for “just in case.” I think we turned the ringer off two years ago. It sits behind the dehumidifier in our master bedroom.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 04:55 (three months ago) link

xp saying that cellphones don't sound as good as landlines.

visiting, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 04:56 (three months ago) link

Coca Cola Freestyle machines. Ok...i love em. But...

Soda fountains in the past, usually your biggest problem was the soda came out flat because the bag needed to be changed. So maybe your number one choice isn't available, but other stuff is. Also, multiple people can fill their shit at the same time.

But with these fuckin machines, if you are unlucky enough to go to a store with only one machine, you gotta wait behind the dummy who can't figure it out.

Then when you get there, sometimes they're out of like every diet product, but you don't find out until you click on it and try to pour it, it stops, and greys out.

And then sometimes the shit just malfunctions and nobody in the restaurant knows how to fix it because they gotta call some help line. And if none of the machines work, you gotta wait in kine and get someone at the counter to pour you a drink

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 05:23 (three months ago) link

iPod clickwheel RIP

iPod classic RIP, I am just never going to be one of those people who wants to listen to music on their phone (it doesn’t sound as good and I can’t anticipate what I want go listen to at any one time enough to have stuff downloaded on Spotify. Maybe I like the misery of separate devices.)

Not to say it didn’t happen before, because it did, but I have to browse online through various plugins and stuff to block all the shitty little trackers so I don’t have to be followed around online by anything I looked at. Facebook login pages on everything are definitely a step backwards.

On that note, the continuing erosion of anonymous/pseudonymous space online. This is bad and people will realise how bad when it’s eventually gone.

And the reduction in diversity of websites/content in general - seems like most people hang out on the same spaces/apps and that’s a big reduction in choice and handing over control to a few large companies.

gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 05:26 (three months ago) link

Oh and inspired by Neanderthal’s post just now! Automated airport bag drops - just an awful scourge and take far more time than having someone check the suitcase and slap the sticker on it for you. Goes double if you’re stuck behind people who are confused by this (naturally). Waited fifteen minutes behind a family checking in three suitcases the other day - there should have been staff to help them.

gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 05:29 (three months ago) link

I am terrible at affixing the tag that prints out to my own bag. They always have to redo it.

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 05:31 (three months ago) link

Neanderthal otm re soda machines. I hate those things to the point where I won’t eat at places that use them. Or if I do then def pass on a drink. I think they change the flavor of the drinks too.

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 05:55 (three months ago) link

I will never forget the day I dropped a newly fully loaded 256gb ipod classic between a Montreal subway car and platform, instantly assuring its doom

Simon H., Wednesday, 14 August 2019 06:09 (three months ago) link

Flat screen TVs all sound terrible and require a sound bar or audio system

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 06:30 (three months ago) link

The smartphone/battery issue annoys me so much (especially as an IPhone user).
If you’re out for meetings/conferences etc a half day, you’re basically done.
I like their design and all (although I don’t like the big ass big screens, circa iPhone 5 it was fine for me) but it requires to also carry a power plug/alt battery at all time so not really an improvement ...

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 06:48 (three months ago) link

I really miss those trackballs that bolted onto the side of a laptop and which you controlled with your thumb. I am hopeless at pointing and clicking with a trackpad.

Also, trains with doors that can only be opened when the driver releases them and windows that can't be opened at all.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:08 (three months ago) link

Flat screen TVs all sound terrible and require a sound bar or audio system

not mine - Sony A1E uses actuators so that the screen is a speaker and there is a small subwoofer in the stand, it sounds pretty excellent (and I am fussy)

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:25 (three months ago) link

Also, trains with doors that can only be opened when the driver releases them and windows that can't be opened at all.

There is a positive side to that second one...

https://metro.co.uk/2016/08/07/man-decapitated-after-sticking-head-out-of-train-window-6053666/

The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:41 (three months ago) link

do landlines really not work during power outages now? because that's the main reason I still pay for one.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:44 (three months ago) link

We drove to Cardiff to buy the last decent plasma TV before they all went LED. don't ask me but my husband Knows About These Things. So yeah, no idea what we'll do when it goes kaput.

kinder, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:45 (three months ago) link

* also in general, laptops replacing desktops for a computer that remains at a desk at all times --- massively worse ergonomically and less computer for your money
yes! about 8 years ago I got a brand new desktop pc and my friend thought I was very weird for not having a laptop.

kinder, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:56 (three months ago) link

(xpost to self: lcd not LED; don't emit the crystals)

kinder, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:59 (three months ago) link

and yes the classic ipod was great. had one of the first editions - so sleek! so futuristic! it lasted ages although perhaps not 18 years later.

kinder, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:04 (three months ago) link

Automated airport bag drops - just an awful scourge and take far more time than having someone check the suitcase and slap the sticker on it for you.

It's also crappy for the staff who have to work these now. They used to sit behind a desk, close to their other colleagues, where they could keep a glass of water or tissues or whatever they needed. Now they have to stand in the middle of the machines and only speak to people who are already annoyed. It is a major inconvenience, and one of the many reasons I cba to fly very much anymore.

Also, maybe it's just the televisions my family buys, but you can no longer see the screen properly unless you are sitting right in front of it.

trishyb, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:15 (three months ago) link

I will never forget the day I dropped a newly fully loaded 256gb ipod classic between a Montreal subway car and platform, instantly assuring its doom


this post made me break into a cold sweat

(Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:03 (three months ago) link

On that note, the continuing erosion of anonymous/pseudonymous space online. This is bad and people will realise how bad when it’s eventually gone.

― gyac

i mean this was doomed when the internet got taken over by nazis, right? i find a great deal of value in having places to talk about personal stuff that doesn't instantly notify every single person i have ever met, but a large percentage of people who also find a great deal of value in it are nazis and pedophiles. i can't think of any way to protect me without also protecting them.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:17 (three months ago) link

thru texting taking the place of calls for almost all the things i used to make calls for

I don't find texting comfortable either! It wasn't as bad when my phone's keyboard looked like this: https://www.lg.com/ca_en/images/cell-phones/lg260/gallery/medium02.jpg . (Admittedly, switching languages is easier now.)

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:58 (three months ago) link

those touchscreen menu-based coke machines suuuuuuck and are increasingly common at multiplex theaters, places where you are usually there trying to make a specific time of something and really don't want to wait behind someone figuring out a machine

re: weather: my issue is that any given page I bookmark for weather is filled with all kinds of junked-up shit, OR is way too basic. the absent functional midlde may be a running theme for this thread idk.

agreed about most low-end flatscreen TVs and their built-in speakers - every apartment i've been to to watch a movie in the last couple years, it's been constant "too quiet during dialogue, too loud during explosions" volume adjustment. you can turn on some kind of curve-flattening normalize function on some of them. couldn't say how they compare versus the days of big clunky cabinet TVs with *basically* functional speakers built in, it's been too long and i don't remember how they really sounded.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:00 (three months ago) link

yeah i bought a blackberry two years ago because my last, clinging-to-life slider phone from like 2011 finally gave up the ghost and thank god, someone extended this slim hope for the physical keyboard.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:01 (three months ago) link

DC a lot of it is down to how these shows get mixed. a lot of times they're sitting in million dollar rooms and mixing for 5.1 and in that setting it sounds amazing.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:06 (three months ago) link

sure but the point is everyone else has accepted it sounding like crap

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:10 (three months ago) link

I had to use a cable between my seemingly good LG TV and the router just a few metres away because the...preload(?) compression would get so bad streaming Netflix. Even with the cable it was a problem watching shows on NOW TV for the first few seconds (particularly annoying with e.g. old Futuramas where you would literally not be able to read the joke message at the start. NOW 'solved' the problem by just removing the old Futuramas from their service...).

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:19 (three months ago) link

I will never forget the day I dropped a newly fully loaded 256gb ipod classic between a Montreal subway car and platform, instantly assuring its doom

this post made me break into a cold sweat

― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:03 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, I cling stubbornly to mine and freak every time my grip slips in the slightest (particularly since that one ridiculous time when I was getting out of a cab and my phone somehow fell out of my pocket and 'nothing but net'-ed directly into a storm drain). It's like walking around with a priceless relic I borrowed from a museum except that my life will basically be over once it's gone from my life.

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:19 (three months ago) link

I finally switched over to listening to podcasts on my phone, instead of taking my ipod classic with me every day.

It's great, except for when I want to listen to music. I was basically using my ipod as a repository for New Orleans music (much of which is not on Spotify), which is usually what I feel like listening to in the car.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:24 (three months ago) link

This may not count but:

Passport scanning at airports where people can't figure out which way to place them on the glass so it ends up taking the same or more time than a human person looking at it.

Boarding public transport by scanning/beeping your card at a reader taking the same or more time than having to show your ticket to a driver because your card is too close in your wallet to your debit card so the reader gets confused.

Also:

RACIST hand-driers etc.

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:50 (three months ago) link

There is an automatic paper towel dispenser at my daughter's gymnastics gym that will only give me one towel. And I mean I will stand there for up to a minute afterward trying to get a second towel to no avail.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:02 (three months ago) link

Shaving. Took me years of picking out the minuscule gaps in wilkinson sword 6-bladed monstrosities with a pin before I realised that safety razors were still available, about 10 times cheaper, and never clogged.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:03 (three months ago) link

Are there really cars out there that combat drowsiness by not letting itself drift over any white or yellow line unless the blinker is on?] Because I will lose my shit, that's all there is to it.

― pplains, Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:45 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

BRING THIS ON. I will stan for forcing EACH AND EVERY DRIVER to use turn signals EVERY TIME.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:10 (three months ago) link

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I've never liked the trend toward the giant, flat Mach 3 style razors. There's a total lack of precision with those.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:14 (three months ago) link

the really annoying thing abt shaving is that switching over to a safety razor + soap + brush model, which overall is saving me a fortune and giving me a better and less irritating shave, requires wading through sites and instructional videos all completely steeped in obnoxious "culture of old-fashioned masculinity" stuff.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:18 (three months ago) link

i mean this was doomed when the internet got taken over by nazis, right? i find a great deal of value in having places to talk about personal stuff that doesn't instantly notify every single person i have ever met, but a large percentage of people who also find a great deal of value in it are nazis and pedophiles. i can't think of any way to protect me without also protecting them.


What about protecting you from them? See: loads of people cool about Obama expanding the surveillance state and being all hand wavey about implications finally making the connection that the Trump admin now has all that data. Particularly when you consider the government tried to identify people who looked at a Trump protest site.

gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:19 (three months ago) link

Honestly 90% of my time online is pseudonymous and I generally keep to myself for much this reason because it’s often...not great?...being female online (esp when you’re opinionated like I am.)

gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:21 (three months ago) link

Shaving is going to be a lot better once they add that 7th blade, though

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:22 (three months ago) link

Also Simon H’s iPod classic story upset me as I left mine in a taxi a few years back and am still never over it :(

gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:24 (three months ago) link

I wholeheartedly agree about the shitness of Google.
The decline of GIS was hastened by Pinterest

kinder, Friday, 15 November 2019 20:13 (one week ago) link

Google image search is a weird tool as it now seems to be precision engineered to prevent you doing what you want to do with it.

Bing is a bit better.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 November 2019 20:26 (one week ago) link

Amazon's method of content delivery to the Library and registering devices is all sorts of ass-backwards

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:25 (three days ago) link

I live abroad, and in the pre-Skype days calling my folks used to be a simple matter of typing in a phonecard number plus their landline (I'm shocked I used to have about 26 digits memorized, btw). The calls were usually nice and clear, no fiddling about, talking to one family member at a time. But today requires first texting 'Skype?' then waiting for them to log on, then a protracted period of 'turn on your video/hit the unmute button/I can't see your face/I didn't get that/etc.', and then the call itself is choppy as shit because either their or my internet connection is poor. And they both try to cram their faces in the screen but I always only get my mother's right eye and my father's left eye -- never the full faces at once. (My in-laws are even worse -- my wife is lucky if she gets the tops of their heads and the portrait of Jesus Christ on the wall behind them.)

I mean it's great when it all works, and it's free, and it means my family can see my little kids playing, but the experience is so incredibly worse than talking on a landline used to be.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 21 November 2019 10:35 (yesterday) link

isn't this what facebook's Portal is meant to solve? 1000 muppets cannot be wrong.

koogs, Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:43 (yesterday) link

light bulbs that don't turn on instantly.

not exactly backwards but i remember back in the 90s looking forward to a future when computers have more power and i won't have to wait so long for software to boot up and do things but this is something that has never really changed.

visiting, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:00 (yesterday) link

hm

deems of internment (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:17 (yesterday) link

maybe you're not using the right computers? The difference between booting up off an SSD and how it used to be is huge.

dan selzer, Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:20 (yesterday) link

The days of waiting for Deskmate to load on my Tandy

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:22 (yesterday) link

I actually love my current car's level of phone integration (music, podcasts, navigation, messages, calls) but it tends to take a block or so to boot up.

they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:24 (yesterday) link

I obsessively delete your phones from the memory of rental cars and dealership loaners, fyi.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:30 (yesterday) link

Thank you for your service.

pplains, Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:34 (yesterday) link

in London 3G is more reliable than 4G on my network.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:50 (yesterday) link

I can't imagine needing a phone that does faster than 3g. Better on battery, too.

maffew12, Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:52 (yesterday) link

london mobile infrastructure - capacity and coverage - is appalling. regularly see foreigners incredulous at the patchiness of it.

Fizzles, Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:54 (yesterday) link

i frequently drop down to 3 or 2g if im only browsing text based stuff (hello) in the city centre

deems of internment (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:40 (yesterday) link


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