PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Cold War Steve has really lost it

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

Or markedly improved, not sure which.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

what's Norman Blake doing on there? (no seriously, I don't know who that is)

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

Seeing a ramp up of a 'we're going to be ready for No deal' by Conservatives but also business.

Meanwhile Hong Kong airport has been shut for a second day in a row.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

can anyone remind me what the actual positives of this whole situation are supposed to be?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

The EU has been stifling an able left-wing alternative in this country for decades. With it gone, the halcyon days are dialectically imminent, a beacon for all nations.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

if fred B is not allowed to post...

im led by donky (||||||||), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

DTI seems to be getting much more active on pressing companies on their no-deal planning.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

Most businesses with complex supply chains are making contingency plans for No Deal but I suspect they are still nowhere near ready and most of them are still saying it will be a disaster. I suspect if you looked at the profiles of the people running the ones who are claiming they are ready, you'd end up with a very specific type.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

that EU supergirl is doing a single with Norman Blake and it's a paean to killing fules who diss President Xi The EU.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

If only Chairman Xi Donald Tusk could exeunt her out of existence…

pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

I stand corrected it is General Secretary/Chairman Xi not Pres!

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

The EU has been stifling an able left-wing alternative in this country for decades. With it gone, the halcyon days are dialectically imminent, a beacon for all nations.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Funnily enough if you take out left-wing out of the above this is exactly what Britannia unchained etc. are saying. You'll fit right in Pom.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

thatsthejoke.jpg

pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

Left and right extremes, joking at the centre's expense.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

The centre, you say.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

I suspect if you looked at the profiles of the people running the ones who are claiming they are ready

Well we can't now not have a new thread on October 31st with various photos of Pro-Leave CEOs captioned HE'S READY, possibly titled Pfizerpool Might Win The Premium NHS Contract 2019-2024

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

:D

D:

imago, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

Jolyon won't be on dis ting 2019-20.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

Is that fbpe article any good?

gyac, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

Not really, no. Amusing enough at points.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

Read it now. Yeah seems legit, liked seeing a lot of the stuff we discuss on here in it.

gyac, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

I thought it was pretty decent tbh, insofar as pieces pinning down a 'movement' or supposed 'community' (Cohen calls them 'tribe', 'brigade' etc) can be pretty decent. Now that someone described and portrayed them as a homogeneous entity, it won't be long before that entity will change. It will attract and detract people, and I'm curious what 'post-#FBPE' will be like.

Also it taught me there are probably #FBPE'ers active on these threads, fiercely rejecting the #FBPE label (if we're going by the definition, of sorts, in the article). Which is amusing.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

"Well we can't now not have a new thread on October 31st with various photos of Pro-Leave CEOs captioned HE'S READY"

Business will accommodate itself if No Deal looks like the only game in town, starting from those weird pro-leave CEOs spreading the cheer.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

tom watson fuck off challenge

Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson says she will work with Watson, saying she is committed to “working with others across party lines in parliament to stop no deal Brexit” and said there was “no time for tribalism”.

But she has said she won't work with Corbyn.... https://t.co/iHg8605cJ2

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) August 13, 2019

im led by donky (||||||||), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

I thought he’d gone in his box with that big paedo ring case collapse; guess nothing lasts forever...

suzy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

fucking embarrassing cunt should be in his box of shame for at least another 6 months after that travesty. Yeah let's work with an odious pro-austerity slimeball who has ruled out working with the Labour leadership but not the tories.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

"no time for tribalism" lol such delusional nonsense.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

Not Dave, surely? ;-)

suzy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

LOOL that’s what I get for thinking your post was mistakenly entered on the Guardian thread, Calz.

A designer friend of mine invited Tom Watson to her show at London Collections: MEN maybe five years ago when he weighed a zillion stone and he did turn up. I don’t think she’s as big a fan of his as she was then (she likes Corbyn).

suzy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

I preferred him when he was on course for a heart attack or type 2 diabetes. but bent pols like him can always find a reason to live or even 500000 reasons to live when the old bank balance is checked and their owner has payed them again.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

people attacking the tribalism of politics might need to read a history book or two or just admit they are just servants of evil plutocrats who occasionally put a few hundred grand in their banks, the worthless fucking garbage.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Wo95cl4.jpg

tbf the young Tom Watson was a handsome young lad.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

have you seen this calz?

This is shameful exploitation by Asda, and shows that we must strengthen employment rights to redistribute power from bosses to workers.

Asda should get round the table with the GMB union and listen to the hardworking staff who make the business a success. https://t.co/abaMXuWoVP

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 13, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

I was talking to an arsehole friend of mine that works for ASDA about it! His response was it's the only contract I ever got offered when I started working for them *cold dead eyes* so fuck 'em. He's being a dishonest twat because he was promoted to a salaried position from a delivery driver and only knew how really shitty that zero hours contract was up to last xmas and had only endured these conditions for a short period with that few month bump you get with redundancy pay swelling your bank. same as it ever was :(

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

yeah + it's low income working women who are getting the worst of it ... again.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

but I'm sure Caroline's prog-fem death squad are losing so much sleep!

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link

That is one thing Labour need to be hitting hard: Austerity is basically anti-feminism in action for millions of women, despite some very chippy looking birds in the tories/lib dems/greens calmly talking a load of blather as they normally do.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link

Campaigners and unions have warned that ever higher train fares risk driving passengers off the railway, as a fresh increase of about 2.9% is expected to be confirmed on Wednesday and after a decade when fares have risen at double the rate of wages.

The fare rise, to take effect in January but dictated by the July inflation figure that will be published by the Office for National Statistics on Wednesday, will add more than £100 to many annual season tickets.

It will mean that the overall cost of train travel has gone up by 46% since 2009, while wages have only grown by 23%, according to TUC analysis of ONS figures.

As the man repeatedly screaming at the top of his voice when all trains from Cannon Street were cancelled one evening a while back said "YOU FOOLS, YOU'RE PLAYING RIGHT INTO JEREMY CORBYN'S HANDS!". I'd have thought, as much as tax cuts, commuter-belt train fare would be something to easily shore Tory support in some of those wavering bits outside London.

This is potentially good:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/aug/13/labour-wants-universities-to-offer-places-after-exam-results

ShariVari, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link

In other train news, Virgin has lost the West Coast Mainline to Trenitalia:

http://maps.dft.gov.uk/west-coast/

Sure to go down well with the Mail.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 06:30 (four years ago) link

I’d bet on Southern Rail being a big part of the reason Amber Rudd nearly lost her seat in 2017.

gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 06:39 (four years ago) link

could be - her latest circular was about trying to get better rail services to London (although that's Southeastern Rail not Southern tbf)

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:24 (four years ago) link

Does anyone know enough about these things to know how workable that universities proposal is from an administrative point of view?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link

I don't think it's crazy. As with any new model it take some coordination (timetable jiggling/quicker a-level marking?) and require more staff, but lots of bigger unis are creating vast new integrated admin systems and cutting staff atm which is no less disruptive.

ogmor, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:56 (four years ago) link

There doesn't seem to be any detail in the proposal so it's hard to judge but (from dim academic admin memory) it would require the academic year to be re-structured such that exams were a bit earlier. I can't see any reason it would be impossible and it seems to me it might well be much more efficient: a lot of work goes into predicting grades and so on.

Seems like a sensible idea to me, on the face of it. Rayner was on the radio this morning saying admission happens post-results in other countries but I wouldn't know about that.

xp I'm not sure it would require more staff hours but it would change the time of year when those hours are needed to run the system.

Tim, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link

It happens in Ireland. Takes a bit of scrambling to find accommodation is the only thing.

gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link

Also they manage elsewhere (though my understanding* is that the Guardian's note that this is "England's unusual status" would be news in at least Scotland and Wales)

*with of course the proviso that you are all a bunch of savages

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link

American universities offer in April and admission is based on grades, extracurricular activities, and standardised (ACT or SAT) test scores. Some institutions also want ACH test scores (these are subject-based and the closest thing America has to A Level). My old high school offers IB - International Baccalaureate - too. But you are judged on information already held or gathered when you apply in the autumn. Sometimes a college/uni will revoke an offer if your grades nosedive in the final semester of senior year, or make an offer contingent on maintaining GPA.

suzy, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link

In France admissions are determined before the bac.

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:17 (four years ago) link

Scotland, Wales and NI all work on actual grades, not predicted ones.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link


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