""trolling""- has the meaning changed?

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am i being trolled

are you all socks trolling me

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

i c&p-ed the wikipedia entry for Hitler's dog, what more do you want?

sarahell, Monday, 12 August 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

in 2019 everyone is trolling

― Mordy, Monday, August 12, 2019 3:43 PM (eleven minutes ago)

its so prevalent that we dont even notice it now

The World According To.... (Michael B), Monday, 12 August 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

wait are you trolls whats happening

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

you can take your shirt off in the middle of dinner, but it's so much harder to pull off in small gatherings

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as in, you are wearing a different kind of shirt in small gatherings? I would think it would be easier to literally pull off your shirt, assuming it would be less likely to be a button down?

lol, i actually just meant "pull off" as in "successfully do something", but serendipity has led us down a new road!

i do have an answer prepared for this, but i need to wait and see how dmac weighs in on this important issue

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

as in to get away with it or to actually perform the physical act

as the nun said to the bishop

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

you wouldnt be

trolling

me, now would you km

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

Yikes, oh no, not at all!
Everyone knows this board is way too small to do something like that, these days
Still, best to be on one's guard

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

*meanwhile, some hapless civil servant is waiting for dmac to approve her time sheet*

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

three sheets to the wind-up

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

is this post about that kid who walked into a wal-mart in missouri with his gun and tactical vest because, gun rights

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

Posting this as it's a classic bit of trolling and a good explainer for the 'sarahell used to troll' thing which I hadn't previously got.

every time i look up an ILE thread about a movie i liked, 90% of the thread consists of 3-5 of the same posters saying "this was terrible"

― marcos, Monday, 5 May 2014 18:46 (Yesterday) Bookmark

I think the Grand Budapest Hotel movie was the only time this did not happen.

― Mark G, Tuesday, May 6, 2014 9:29 AM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

someone liked that piece of shit?

― sarahell, Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:09 AM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

thats a pun not a troll imo

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

that's not a pun

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

deems how is that a pun

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

are you having a stroke

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

ok not a pun, a wisecrack, a punchline

i mean how is it trolling

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

dmac this is nancy in department 19F - can you approve my timesheet when you get a moment? Thanks!

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

where did this timesheet thing start

am i being trolled

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

i work for you

have you even read any of my monthly reports? if you don't have access to the sharepoint folder just let me know, but i have been asking you to review these since 2016

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

i am considering a skip level meeting to address this

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

dmac, it's trolling because Mark G and marcos are saying how they hate film threads because people always say bad things about films they like, then sarahell calls the single example they give a "piece of shit" with no further comment. It's funny and it's a bit mean and you cannot tell if it's serious or not, this is what trolling is like, obv explaining it to death does not make it more funny, but anyway

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

i really dont think thats trolling because its quite obviously a punchline to that exchange?

sorry km i just got sidetracked with this discussion I'll be right over to you on those um those reports

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

deems forgetting what a pun actually is makes a lot of things suddenly make so much sense

YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

hi wins

do you think thats a troll or a handy punchline from sarahell there iyo

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

The hitler dog thing? That’s a spoonerism

YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

dog wins law

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

i really dont think thats trolling because its quite obviously a punchline to that exchange?

deems we're getting a ping from analytics indicating a 3.5% possibility increase to the idea that up to 20% of what you think are punchlines may have been trolls. i would get a team working on this but i'm not even sure i'm getting paid now

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

is fucking salesforce down again

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

i signed that shee

wait is this june or july

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

rolling trolling payrolling thread

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

The most beautiful thing about this thread is deems trolling everyone into thinking he doesn't know what trolling is

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

Nancy - I have the salesforce rep on the line, and there is a problem with the microservices stack

sarahell, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

as always I started genuine and ye got the worse out of me

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

fucking workflow scheduler piece od shit *weeps*

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

Nancy,

This is Rhonda in finance. We are currently transitioning to a new cloud-based timesheet system. Had you read the latest "Finance Department Newsletter" you would have been aware of this.

Warmest Regards,

Rhonda

sarahell, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

Does anyone work in this place? And does anything work in this place??

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

meow

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

Ugh, it is what it is

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

this thread is giving me a breakdown analysis

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

Nancy,

Bill from HR is currently on his honeymoon from Bali. Please address concerns about the workingness of things and people to his assistant, Yolanda.

Warmest Regards,
Rhonda

*sent from my iPhone

sarahell, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

Rhonda, I was following the newsletter closely until you took me off the recipients list after my last email change

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

hi nanch hi rondha bill here from the airport

typed on androif

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

iftheres anythig i can do let meknow i shoul be aleb to access the server from the plane wif

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

Nancy,

If you had updated your newsletter preferences in Salesforce and notified me via our airtable project management system, then we would not have this misunderstanding. :)

Warmest Regards,
Rhonda

*sent from my iPhone

sarahell, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

Hi all,

Just to remind everyone again (circ 6 of 2017 attached for ref) that users are not to access the servers from open/public wifi.

The issue of this access being locked down altogether is currently being investigated cf IT and Networks teamsite

Rgds

John

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

hi john i cant seem

its bill

i cant get to the it site

john its bill im at the airpot john please my wif

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

John,

That attachment didn't come through for me. Please resend? :)

Warmest Regards,
Rhonda

*sent from my iPhone

sarahell, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

chow down on my anus you stupid idiot

― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:22 AM bookmarkflaglink

lol yr sub-ethan burns are cuet

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

well this is all very awkward

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link

RHONDA!!!!!!

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/EFxgxQ6.jpg

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

Rong thraed

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 05:13 (three years ago) link

Or is it?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 4 June 2020 06:56 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Phil Collins

Neanderthal, Thursday, 17 September 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-Hj73ES2U

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 17 September 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link

watch yourself or you're going to get a temp

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 17 September 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link

i watched 2 minutes of that and there was no sexual content - thanks for trolling the trolling thread

sarahell, Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

dennis turned out to be a more boring and stupid fella than anticipated tbpfh

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

?

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 November 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

Rhonda get the fUCK in here

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 November 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

?

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 November 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

For whom the bell trolls?

pomenitul, Sunday, 29 November 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Loose definition there: "saying a thing that stands up to no logic scrutiny or could even be a sincere belief beyond the desire to get a rise out of people you don't like"

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:12 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok we have baseline

ty for yr service nv

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:14 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean I don't hold with hard definitions in general but baseline, yeah, that's something like a baseline

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:15 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Next level of complexity is that the sincerity of the troll's statements should always be on some level plausible, like it's just possible a Swinson is so tied into her bubble that she cannot see the logical dishonesty there

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:17 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

gonna have to unpick that one maybe

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:20 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe not the thread to go deep into that specific example but roughly "I cannot support this candidate with a number of obvious qualifications for temporary leader of the government but hey I had a word with a couple of absolutely unqualified chums and wouldn't they be much better choices?"

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:23 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Now either she *knows* why they're ludicrous suggestions or she's so deep in her own game she can't see the ludicrousness. The outside observer's uncertainty is a very troll-like situation

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:25 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Schrödinger stuff, from outside yes

but does it rely on whether or not *she* is aware of the ludicrous uncertainty in order to be trolling (as i type it out it seems obvious that it does)

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:27 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

"a thing that stands up to no logic scrutiny or could even be a sincere belief beyond the desire to get a rise out of people" depends a lot on the individual oftentimes u have two ppl who both think the other person is trolling bc neither are capable of imagining a different perspective

― Mordy, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:28 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think it does because death of the author and as Burroughs might've described it the troll inside

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:29 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Intentionality is not being taken into account this season, it's about whether the hand or arm are in an "unnatural" position IIRC.

― Tim, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:29 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

xp

yeah sure Mordy but to the extent I'm engaging with this in good faith it is very much about perspective, social context, history and the speakers' knowledge of one another, like all language really

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:31 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

you will ofc be aware that in such a designation the other variable is the observer's capacity for befuddlement

allow me to further muddy water by suggesting an advance troll technique:

the observer so puzzled by whether or not something is a troll or not that any third party onlooker (and indeed the original subject, the suspected troll themselves) might wonder whether or not the perplexed-possible-trollée is not infact a faux-trolled-troll

fuckit mordy got in there

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol tim

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think to troll one must be on at least some level intending to troll, so i disagree nv

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

we shall, possibly, have to lurk under that bridge when we come to it

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

For there to be trolling, intent is paramount. Except, of course, the most successful specimens rely on the trollee's structural inability to reliably decipher the troll's exact intentions. In other words, the best trolling may or may not be an instance of trolling at all.

Apologies for restating the obvious.

xps

― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel like an essential component of trolling is the ethos that self-amusement/-satisfaction > comity.

― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:34 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh yes and no

the intent is from the pov of the troll and therefore, while it can be unknown from outside, it can never have an actual value of unknown

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:35 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

The heart of it is in here somewhere, maybe

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

We don’t need two people doing these shit revives, tbh

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

we need more

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

it is *very* important to not fall in love with martin shkreli

imago, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

Easier said than done.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

are we really going back to the viking thing?

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

lol

(i feel the same way)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

I feel comfortable stating that nobody, when first confronted with the phrase "that's where I'm a Viking", has ever sincerely believed that "to be a Viking" is an extant phrase implying excellence

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

NV, I can see that you have a good deal of insight into the workings of other people's brains, it's a field in which you excel, in fact.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

what about sentences such as "when it comes to raiding and looting Irish monasteries, that's where I'm a Viking!"

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

#notonethread

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

Hate speech is it

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

Still think the heart of it was in there somewhere

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

A+ trolling here, written well enough to make people angry without being over the top

question for the ladies- do you check your man’s phone?? 🤔 would he let you??? 🤔 i explained to my man early on that in order to trust him i would be doing random daily phone checks❤️ happy 3 weeks baby pic.twitter.com/2plFyIXMDK

— Grace (@gracecamille_) March 2, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

why u coming home
5 in the morn

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

yanks cap makes this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

I’ve already told my partner the calming effects of Martin Clunes GIS searches, I’ve got nothing to hide

brimstead, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't trust a dude enough to announce that I was going to do "random daily phone checks" ... that's like announcing DUI checkpoints, if they're smart enough they'll go around them, and if they're stupid enough not to know, then they're not someone I'd want to be with romantically

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link

best response

I went thru an SO's phone once, but only bc I suspected he was cheating. I was right and my sister, who was house-sitting for us while we were traveling to a wedding, almost trashed his house to avenge me, but I told her not to. We broke up about a yr later but are still friends

— ndr Chrpntr (@quo_vadis_83) March 2, 2021

lukas, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link


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