the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

let it be noted the system is gross, to me all criminals prosecuted by the rules

Dont feel like I'm angrily shouting at people itt? But w/e. The twitter thread (by a writer informed in that field) goes into great detail about how suicide watch works in in-patient facilities, something that many ppl itt obviously didnt know about before posting stuff like "the fact that he wasnt on 24/7 watch is telling evidence that someone wanted him dead" or "hm he was taken off suicide watch and then coincidentally killed himself? v sus, obvious intentionality at play behind his death", which is the essential logic behind a great majority of the conspiracy-friendly posts itt. If you think it's "not exactly media literate" to not give equal weight to the foster the people dude then w/e, i dunno what to tell you.

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), 12. august 2019 01:16 (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Like literally that thread contains the key information that many posters are referring to when they say "I'm not saying its a conspiracy but there certainly are a lot of strange unanswered questions about what happened"

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), 12. august 2019 01:22 (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

The twitter account isn't even verified, you honestly don't know at all who made it. I also assume it's all legit, but none of us knows. That's what I'm saying wrt literacy. Defeating conspiracies means finding information from trust-worthy sources (and making notice when sources turn out to be not trustworthy at all) not looking at a twitter thread that seems to know what it says, and then being mad at other people.

Lol yes it’s true, she is not even verified, thx for the media literacy lesson

where's Verrit when you need them?

Attorney General Bill Barr on the suicide of accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein: "Let me assure you that this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein. Any co-conspirators should not rest easy" https://t.co/O0OFAg3xyj pic.twitter.com/nZLWpjMhGF

— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) August 12, 2019

the old standard or the 2019 standard

sad lol

One more wrinkle that I don't recall seeing before

In addition, because Mr. Epstein may have tried to commit suicide three weeks earlier, he was supposed to have had another inmate in his cell, three officials said. But the jail had recently transferred his cellmate and allowed Mr. Epstein to be housed alone, a decision that also violated the jail’s procedures, the two officials said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/nyregion/epstein-death-manhattan-correctional-center.html

yeah I’d heard that - wouldn’t be the first time jail employees didn’t follow procedure, esp for a high profile prisoner

But Mr. Young said he was certain that Mr. Epstein was in the cell alone — and nearly certain Mr. Epstein had a cellmate after he was removed from suicide watch.

“I can tell you it is unequivocal that he was in a cell by himself,” Mr. Young said. “I can tell you Epstein didn’t have anyone in the room with him when he committed suicide.”

guys, do we have a missing cellmate?

where is that italian quadruple murder ex-cop guy

shocking news

Justice officials have now uncovered broader problems at the MCC. It’s not clear what else has been found but, it goes beyond the 24 hours before Epstein’s death. Justice officials say the MCC has suffered a breakdown in protocols for a period that goes back years. @evanperez

— Shimon Prokupecz (@ShimonPro) August 12, 2019

Sorry, USA, but the MCC can only mean one thing, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marylebone_Cricket_Club

They're not wrong though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT4qObpOzeI

this new NY Times piece links him to Elon Musk and Tesla, because why fucking not

https://archive.is/qLDp2

The desperate pleas of a narcissist being left out to dry

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html

lmao, xpost there

“I kept trying to steer the conversation back to Tesla, but Mr. Epstein remained evasive. He said he’d spoken to the Saudis about possibly investing in Tesla, but he wouldn’t provide any specifics or names. When I pressed him on the purported email from Mr. Musk, he said the email wasn’t from Mr. Musk himself, but from someone very close to him. He wouldn’t say who that person was. I asked him if that person would talk to me, and he said he’d ask. He later said the person declined; I doubt he asked.”

GRIMES WHAT DO YOU KNOW

jeffrey 'actually it's ephebophilia' epstein didn't live long enough to become the libertarian party candidate in 2020 pic.twitter.com/KBMbu6F8FX

— ☭🕷️🐬The Antifada🐬🕷️☭ (@the_antifada) August 12, 2019

even milquetoast centrists are getting radicalized

I don’t even have a theory to fill out a conspiracy theory with, but it’s wild that Bill Barr’s dad hired young college dropout Jeffrey Epstein to be a high school calculus teacher.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 12, 2019

can someone decode this for me

NEW YORK (AP) — AP source: One of Jeffrey Epstein's guards the night he hanged himself wasn't a correctional officer.

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) August 13, 2019

They didn't want to pay a real CO so some lower ranking person who does the same job but is paid less was doing it.

Ahh, gotcha. Conspiracy brain wants to know if that's a common practice in federal lockup but I assume that'll get discussed at some point

can someone decode this for me

Lower risk inmates do rounds/watch camera feeds.

Tbc I needed it decoded because that sentence was also the entire content of the AP story!

^ At least on the night shift.

lol I just noticed the end date on this poll is 9/11

I assumed that was intentional. But haven't set up a poll so don't know how the date's set.

even milquetoast centrists are getting radicalized

Yglesias hasn't been milquetoast for years, though.

wow, huge if true

Okay, so this seems like the first lead in this Epstein suicide story pic.twitter.com/RORJ3k0nGh

— Justin Halpern (@justin_halpern) August 13, 2019

The greatest trick Steve Jail ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.

— A Choral Hexed Eleventh (@AHEveleth) August 13, 2019

When I saw that my first thought was that it had to be a parody account. It's so far out.

What was your next thought

'More coffee'

CBS News has learned that the morning of Jeffrey Epstein's death there was shouting and shrieking from his jail cell. Guards attempted to revive him while saying "breathe, Epstein, breathe."

Congress is the latest to start investigating Epstein's apparent suicide over the weekend, with new reports raising questions about the federal jail where he was being held. One of Epstein's guards at the Metropolitan Correctional Center on the night he died was reportedly not a regular corrections officer.

(...)

With Epstein gone, potential co-conspirators involved in his alleged sex-trafficking network are shifting into focus. British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell is one of four women accused of recruiting underage girls for sex. She's denied those claims in the past and has not been charged with a crime. Maxwell is said to be Epstein's ex-girlfriend turned business associate. Her current location is unknown.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-shrieking-heard-jail-cell-morning-he-died-metropolitan-correctional-center/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=71953138

Nothing to see here...

the morning of Jeffrey Epstein's death there was shouting and shrieking from his jail cell. Guards attempted to revive him while saying "breathe, Epstein, breathe."

real "im not gonnela lose another one, goddammit!" air off this

gonna

lmao @ "steve jail"

"bonesaw...is my _middle_ name"

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/cf/d6/abcfd6bec911cac4817bc831218c6cef.png

Breathe for me Jeffrey!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urp-KGo6jw0

real "im not gonnela lose another one, goddammit!" air off this

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, August 13, 2019 1:57 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://youtu.be/Nh-QOzHmr5s

lol that is the exact thing I was thinking of

Apparently some chud broke the story early on 4chan

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/fdny-investigating-jeffrey-epstein-4chan-post

That frog don’t hunt

Something good:

FBI agents swarm Jeffrey Epstein's private Caribbean island

only 13 short years since the fbi opened an investigation into epstein, great work lads

did they pull up after the document shredding team had left?

Time otm

How did a high-profile, high-risk prisoner have access to items he could use to hang himself? What procedures were and weren’t followed? These questions must be answered. If Barr cares about DOJ’s reputation, he should step aside and let career people conduct and oversee the investigation. If he does this, and if the investigation is exhaustive with results promptly made public, it would be a step in the long process of restoring faith in our justice system. All of us — especially Epstein’s victims, who have already been subjected to unthinkable trauma — are entitled to no less.

https://time.com/5650974/william-barr-jeffrey-epstein/