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That's the one

Mark G, Sunday, 11 August 2019 12:04 (four years ago) link

How prescient of them:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/portishead-ducks-swans-wallowing-mud-1844328

pomenitul, Sunday, 11 August 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

Only You is pretty darn sombre.

chap, Sunday, 11 August 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

Didn't see the poll, would've voted "Over".
Never knew people thought the record was bad. Loved it when it came out and still do. I thought it was darker than Dummy.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 12 August 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

I was a huge fan of the first album at the time and didn't care for this one immediately upon release. I was disappointed right away, and despite buying the LP, CD, and 2 different 12"s from this album, I never really played it much. Possible issues: too long between albums with very little variance in sound - lots of things sounded like a retread, there were loads of imitators who released music between the two albums, the songs just aren't as good.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 12 August 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

I don't know why this album gets so much flack, it rules. Also I think the first two records have come around from being 'dated' (very evocative of their time and place, overplayed, lots of imitators) to sounding prescient & not dated at all.

It also seems overly simplistic to cast the first album as sample-based and this one as not...Dummy had more samples, but still had a ton of live instrumentation that was very creatively resampled & processed (same as the s/t).

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:24 (five months ago) link

this album gets flak?? it completely rules, an outstanding not even slightly disappointing second album. so many great tunes, “only you”, “mourning air”, “half day closing”, “all mine” ffs. dummy had more synthetic sounds, like the drum machine on “it could be sweet”, this leans into the John Barry shit hard.

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:37 (five months ago) link

there's like two posts slamming the album just within the last bump

ivy., Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:39 (five months ago) link

This is the first album I go to when I want to listen to Portishead. I really never got why it was generally considered to be worse than the other 2.

silverfish, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:44 (five months ago) link

1. Portishead
2. Third
3. Dummy

Is how I would rank them, which I guess is the opposite of most people

silverfish, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:45 (five months ago) link

it was the eighth of november in the year of our lord two thousand twenty three when i first discovered there are assholes who thought the second portishead album was disappointing. it was a sunny day and i had an extra cup of coffee.

(the b-sides from this album are fab, btw)

"another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:50 (five months ago) link

it was the eighth of november in the year of our lord two thousand twenty three when i first discovered there are assholes who thought the second portishead album was disappointing

my friend, it appears that like me you missed that there were like two posts in this thread in the year 2019 expressing disappointment with the second portishead album, we are completely out of the damn loop

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 17:49 (five months ago) link

nb that is a totally silly post, <3 austin and ivy

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 17:50 (five months ago) link

this album rules, i probably listened to it ten times as much as dummy (which i love), but this one hit at just the right time. idk why but its to me reminiscent of the move cypress hill made from the s/t to black sunday. a darker refinement of the earlier album, with a bleaker, dirtier sound, even more paranoid and more down in the depths than the previous work (which in both cases was already down there.)

omar little, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 17:54 (five months ago) link

Tbf I also was looking at *other* old ILM threads.

Portishead - are we fickle or did they deserve to become dated so quickly?

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 17:59 (five months ago) link

Also I think I didn't really distinguish between the first two albums because I got into the live album first and worked backwards

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 18:00 (five months ago) link

Adrian Utley is auctioning off his Portishead live rig Moog to support Gaza. I assume there will be two extra zeroes over what I could pay but that would be a cool thing to have (and very cool of AU).

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 18:19 (five months ago) link

I would also rank them Portishead -> Third -> Dummy, with Third nearly being a tie. Actually felt this was a fairly common take, but I suppose not...

I thought they were okay until I heard Only You and the rest of that album. It's a masterpiece.

octobeard, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 18:53 (five months ago) link

Third nearly being a tie for first I meant to say

octobeard, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 18:54 (five months ago) link

Does anyone else hear in “Elysium” that the background loop, which seems like typical LP crackle, is actually a distorted male voice muttering, “I’m dirty, I’m dirty, I am dirty, I’m dirty”, etc.?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 November 2023 04:08 (five months ago) link

I think Portishead are like numerous 00s indie bands in that the debut will always be the canon, totem choice and also the one I find will probably always find least interesting. Portishead is so clearly a total improvement in every way imo, and Third is my favourite but ofc clearly something else altogether.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 10 November 2023 04:38 (five months ago) link

Anyway, despite the heavy debt to “The American Metaphysical Circus”, I’d have picked “Half Day Closing” for two reasons: the awesomely crummy-sounding guitar that comes in on the second chorus, and a vocal that rivals Annisette or Dagmar Krause in its combination of bereft misery and destructive rage.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 November 2023 04:40 (five months ago) link

I’m terms of comparing the albums, I think they’re fairly equal: three or four great songs, four or five good songs, two or three failed experiments or dreary exercises apiece.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 November 2023 04:47 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

always enjoy Adrian Utley talking about making music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlv9i0XC8NA

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 November 2023 08:07 (four months ago) link


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