The New Adventures of ILXor: The Animated Series Poll voting and campaigning thread

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i went to college w/ the creator of bee and puppycat and knew her a little bit -- she was an amazing artist even then

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

OK since we're in an evangelizing mood:

HILDA is an extremely sweet story about a girl who lives in a magical forest with her (single) mom but because of circumstances has to move into the city. It's definitely aimed at young kids but is smart and complex enough for adults to enjoy. See also HILDA on Netflix deserves its own thread, where this is OTM:

The animation and character design are lovely (I don't know why but I find Hilda's beret to be an exquisite touch), and the story is surprisingly intricate for a kid's show -- things mentioned in the periphery in one episode pay off several episodes later. (As an aside, you know you've reached peak serial narratives when something aimed at 9-year-olds has multi-episode arcs.)

Also the theme song is by Grimes (?!).

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Thursday, 8 August 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

the big o is possibly better than i remembered. the design of the show is astonishing

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:41 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

and i either forgot or never made the connection that chiaki j. konaka, the creator of lain, was the head writer of big o. which makes so much sense

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 August 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

As for themes, Daria is up with my faves at a quick brain-glance. I'm also (sorry pvmic here) fond of Futurama because of the 60s song it was ganked from!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

Copyediting:


Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures
Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures

Tinin, The Adventures of (1991-1992)

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Friday, 9 August 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

Thanks!

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 9 August 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

new on netflix - a reboot of rocko's modern life!?!

Mordy, Friday, 9 August 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

feature-length film I believe

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 9 August 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I was never huge on the series but the movie/special sounds intersting! The main cast returns from twenty years in outer space to see what a horrorshow we've made of the planet since then.

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 August 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

a new Invader Zim movie is coming to Netflix soon, too!

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 9 August 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

netflix reviving all the shows that made me feel out of the loop for not liking

ciderpress, Friday, 9 August 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

can we talk about how people are planning on balancing their ballots btwn stuff they suspect just wouldn't hold up today but is v important part of their youth w/ stuff they think is still fantastic? kill yr darlings? so hard to do.

Mordy, Friday, 9 August 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

Can we submit unranked ballots?

― The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:47 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Nah.

I'm considering interpolating points for ballots with less than 25 entries linearly from 25 to 1 rather than giving 16 points to the 10th choice of someone who only submits 10 shows, does anyone think that sucks?

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 9 August 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

no i think that's excellent

Mordy, Friday, 9 August 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

The contender which for me hits both the 'youthful impact' and 'holds up' criteria is G.I. Joe, which I remember more about than most other childhood media and which has been revealed, to the extent that I've reviewed it in my dotage, to be a really fuckin' weird show. Lotta comics writers involved (including Steve Gerber, which I have to believe influenced the weirdness to some extent).

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 August 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

i'm voting only for shows i think are outright good, some may be "this is outright good for a ten-year-old." but no mere "this is dross but i remember being attached to it."

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I used to watch the shit out of some Snorks but I somehow doubt it's weathered the test if time.

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link

Just finished Over the Garden Wall and despite not feeling the sense of humor in the first episode, I acclimated to its charms pretty quickly. Moreover, the way the world unfolds is a gem of storytelling. Glad I stuck with it!

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link

holy hell, i had totally forgotten about Duckman! i never loved it, but it had it's moments, will add that to the list. (of things to watch/rewatch)

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 11 August 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

i looooove duckman but part of me can't imagine it's held up

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 August 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

ya, i feel like time will not have been kind.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 11 August 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

would love to rewatch nonetheless. The comics are good!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 11 August 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

the rocko's modern life reboot was fun and reminded me both of what was v cool about the original rocko (and how heavily influenced by ren + stimpy it was!) but also it was the perfect length like 40min and i don't feel like i need to watch any more

Mordy, Sunday, 11 August 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

ppl recommend me other things to watch plz. i'm going to watch big O.

Mordy, Sunday, 11 August 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

anyone interested in the non-action side of anime should try A Place Further than the Universe it's real good and only 13 eps long

ciderpress, Sunday, 11 August 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

Anybody tried Infinity Train yet? Haven't heard anything one way or the other yet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 11 August 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

Oh no, where are Alvin and the Chipmunks? That show basically formed my impressions of life and culture between the ages of 3 and 8. I will write it in my ballot for sure.

Very glad someone nominated Serial Experiments Lain! That show captures the thrill and mystique of early internet communication so well and it looks extremely cool.

A Place Further Than the Universe looks great - will definitely try to watch that. Any other recommendations for anime of a sort of strange or magical bent?

tangenttangent, Sunday, 11 August 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

Watch Mission Hill!
Iirc all the episodes are on YouTube.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 11 August 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

anyone interested in the non-action side of anime should try A Place Further than the Universe it's real good and only 13 eps long

just watched the first ep so cute!!!

Mordy, Sunday, 11 August 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

xp Land of the Lustrous is a neat fantasy anime with some pretty unique visuals and worldbuilding

ciderpress, Sunday, 11 August 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

Infinity Train was great

brigadier pudding (DJP), Sunday, 11 August 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link

will give it a shot

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 11 August 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

can we talk about how people are planning on balancing their ballots btwn stuff they suspect just wouldn't hold up today but is v important part of their youth w/ stuff they think is still fantastic? kill yr darlings? so hard to do.

Did anyone but me say they'd do this? Anyway I'm less inclined the more I go over this. I'm going to stuff a few old H-B or whatever ones right at the bottom.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 12 August 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link

Speaking of killing darlings though: giving Ren and Stimpy close to top billing, vs "John K turned out to be a bit of a pedo lech" :(

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 12 August 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link

Yeah that’s a tough one. Would welcome discussion of Art vs artist thoughts as pertains explicitly to the poll and how that might change ur voting.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 12 August 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link

I have to disclaim I was quite small and forbidden to watch Ren and Stimpy while it aired and I’m not positive I’ve ever seen more than five minutes of it so that being said I would be pleasantly surprised if the work of the guy who serially groomed minors for sex turned out to be heavily discounted at this remove.

On the other hand most animation is a collective work with no single author.

Up to y’all.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 02:51 (four years ago) link

i will not be voting for ren and stimpy, ymmv

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link

I just feel like it was pretty groundbreaking at the time - first of the widely popular "adult" cartoons (Simpsons aside).

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 12 August 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link

i think it's a very important show and my expectation was that it would do well in this poll but it wasn't going to be on my ballot just bc there are things i find kinda sleazy + gross in an unpleasant way about the work that made it difficult for me to enjoy as a kid and not eager to review as an adult - i do understand the appeal of dissonant animation (or at the very least dissonance in other areas of art) but there's so much competing for space on my ballot i have the luxury of not voting for something i see as an extremely important + distinctive entry in the genre but just isn't beloved by me in that way.

Mordy, Monday, 12 August 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link

going to check later if there’s a good public link to a bill oakley interview where he talks about mission hill a fair bit

it’s aged ok, feel like the character bits hit well but I’m not sure if more episodes would have been good or had to go in a different way because they mined the territory

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link

xp at silby, I wasn’t allowed to watch the simpsons (!) for years and catching up was a joy around 1996 or so

my mom misremembered this recently as not letting me watch south park. which, outside of the definite distance, is funny because I had to explain that not only did they not have cable tv until I was in college, comedy central might not have been carried locally then

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 03:58 (four years ago) link

my parents didn't like the simpsons but thankfully they didn't stop me from watching it

they definitely did not allow me to watch beavis and butthead or mtv at all for several years, which was stupid of them imo

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link

by the time south park came out i was in third grade and watching mtv religiously and not giving a goddamn shit and all bets were off

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link

this is so foreign to me!

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link

xp - I nominated Ren and Stimpy, and will be voting for it, but completely understand why others won't.

Finding out years down the track that the guy responsible for the cartoon I obsessed over as a pre/early-teen got up to some awful shit was disappointing, to say the least. In these last few years, learning of and observing the behaviour of creators and fandom in the entertainment I enjoy (music, movies, tv, comic books, video games, genre fiction, you name it) has been disheartening. I can't change what I liked back then, but I can make better-informed decisions now.

For me, voting for R&S is acknowledging it's impact on me, and not necessarily as a recommendation for others to check it out. ymmv.

And now for something completely different, here's the greatest cartoon theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOpxUZEetLg

Vernon Locke, Monday, 12 August 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link

LOL I was singing that just last night (prob thanks to this thread) and my other half looked at me like I was nuts.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 12 August 2019 06:53 (four years ago) link

I wasn’t allowed to watch South Park, but my brother was always out when it was on and I would sneak into his room and watch it on this old black and white dial TV where you could only half get Channel 4. I didn’t watch South Park in colour until way later.

My grandparents didn’t let us watch the Simpsons at their house because it was ‘too American’.

tangenttangent, Monday, 12 August 2019 08:22 (four years ago) link

IT'S ME NO-NO SMALL ROBOT YOU KNOW

chap, Monday, 12 August 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

Great spaceship design in Ulysses 31.

chap, Monday, 12 August 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link

mission hill was not for us. was amused to learn it was not only a contemporary but initially a near-namesake of downtown, which i love

imago, Monday, 12 August 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link


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