ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

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I'm completely stuck at the moment. beginning to hit middle age, boring professional etc, so past the place where i can carry off yoof, and really dislike standard english standard male wear. need to spend at a price point below a lot of the 'well-dressed man', and also I find them tending either to dullness, pomposity or that fuckin sprezzatura world.

the items i've bought from old town i like both in terms of quality and look, but i don't always want to look like i'm tending a fishing smack off the Suffolk coast in the '40s.

i *need* instagram accounts for some *looks*, some online recommendations and for any of you london based, shopping recommendations. feel since LG left and woof posts less frequently i've lost bearings a bit.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:02 (five months ago) link

not at all averse to buying from abroad either tbh, and i've looked somewhat longingly at some japanese stores, though the fucking state of the pound at the moment makes buying hessian sack a mortgageable enterprise.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:03 (five months ago) link

hello!

I'm maybe a little stuck myself atm. I realised I have had exactly 2 looks for the last 30 years - look 1: academic manqué; look 2: 1989 Mudhoney audience member. I just bounce between them, creating an ever more expensive version of each as my income rises.

But yes the state of the pound makes me very very angsty about buying from overseas, which is unfortunate because the two things I am enjoying at the moment are m2m shirts from Proper Cloth (ie look 1 - got a lovely Madras and a v simple blue Oxford from them) and Japanese heavy flannel (ie look 2 - ordered this direct from UES).

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:22 (five months ago) link

fwiw I think proper cloth still works out pretty well, given the range of shirtings, degree of customisation, and control over fit. But it's def best-shirts rather than everyday-shirts.

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:25 (five months ago) link

hello!

waiting for the day when professional media workwear forms a perfect ven with 1989 Mudhoney-just-behind-the-moshpit fan. Basically i need to up my 'best shirts' quotient a bit so the Proper Cloth option is good. AndI need a bit of non-shirt top options, including jumper options, tho i think that's easier. Mind you, terrible state of crewnecks and indeed v-necks in the world sometimes, sloppy necks or blousy hang.

going to go back to japanese websites for other top options, and stop looking at coats are basically a $1000 *look* for red letter days, and not sustainable daily wear.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:48 (five months ago) link

Spaces I think about moving into:

* Agèd semi-mod who only buys from American Classics and John Simons and stands in the shop chatting all day. Large cap.
* Drunk in a suit with no tie, in a suit all the time even though it's not right for his work or social situations. Thinks he's in the Bad Seeds, actually just sweaty and awkward. Feel like this is basically an alcoholic look, and sadly I've got my drinking under control.
* Something austere and Japanese. Don't really have the vocab to capture this.

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:37 (five months ago) link

I'm older and into minimal, slightly technical stuff made by Outlier, Mission Workshop, occasionally Uniqlo, the Sea to Sky collection released a few years ago from Reigning Champ. I'm not talking Neuromancer-wannabe stuff or anything. I just don't like branding and I like a little function along with form. Solid colors, usually shades of gray, black, and muted colors. Anybody else into this stuff and have any suggestions? I'm specifically looking for a new jacket appropriate for like 30-40 F and button-up shirts that have a boxy or even slightly flared out fit (like a Japanese work shirt) but not big tents meant to hide bellies.

beard papa, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:45 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

did you find anything you liked, beard papa?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:03 (four months ago) link

i just popped in to say the aero-mesh undies at uniqlo are fuckin choice. i now feel like all my other underwear is trash.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:04 (four months ago) link

No, and it's kind of funny to reread that post as it sort of makes it seem like I spend a lot of time and money shopping for clothes which I don't. I own a few Outlier pieces, but all of those other places I'm judging by staring at their sites and closing them without buying anything. I recently had to throw out some shirts that had developed huge holes in the backs (probably a result of wearing a backpack every day) too big to ignore, and now I am sort of desperate to find some affordable plain and muted shirts that don't get all stretched out at the bottom because I have weirdly wide hips. I'm thinking about just sizing up a few Taylor Stitch shirts and maybe having them tailored so they don't look all poofy. I still haven't found a jacket, either.

I really like Engineered Garments and I even have some immaculate flannels that I bought a few years ago for a low price, but I just don't know how to wear the stuff without feeling like I look like a total doof.

beard papa, Thursday, 3 October 2019 16:15 (four months ago) link

I strongly relate to guys' struggles on here.

I'm 44 and have been working 100% from home for several years, which means I have zero use for any of the dressy clothes I have, many of which are falling apart or don't fit anyway. But that's left me wearing t-shirts and jeans pretty much every day, and I'm getting real bored with it. It would be nice to find some casual clothes, especially shirts, that are slightly more stylish, but I find most men's fashions to be painfully drab and dull. I'd like something with a bit of color that looks more modern than classic.

Suggestions?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:01 (four months ago) link

do you have an example of something you like?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:36 (four months ago) link

Can anyone recommend business casual (button/oxford) shirts that aren't non-iron but also don't need a ton of ironing? I feel like most non-iron shirts look a little bit cheap or goofy, but the regular dress shirts I've bought lately all look wrinkled after an hour of wear and/or are really hard to iron.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:48 (four months ago) link

the lands end hyde park oxfords stay reasonably unwrinkled on me.

adam, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:55 (four months ago) link

Yeah Lands End shirts are good.

I can iron but generally don't - in my experience if you hang shirts up immediately as they come out of the dryer, they will be fine. Alternatively, hanging them in the bathroom while you shower steams them nicely. So does putting a shirt on right after you get out of a shower.

On some of my shirts - notably Gap linen - the plackets may act up a bit but that's easily rectified.

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:19 (four months ago) link

in my experience if you hang shirts up immediately as they come out of the dryer, they will be fine.

I have found this to be true with some brands, but I have shirts from both Nordstrom (the John W. Nordstrom line which is supposed to be higher end) and Ledbury (again, supposed to be high end) that don't do this. Granted both were clearance buys so maybe I just got some fabric that turned out to be shitty.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:32 (four months ago) link

100% cotton oxford shirts need ironing. I can't imagine not doing that. I don't own a dryer though. Maybe the dryer sorta lets out the thousands of deep wrinkles?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:53 (four months ago) link

I know you said shirts but I’ve found that wearing non-jeans more often than jeans is really key to not feeling like a schlub

rob, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:31 (four months ago) link

I have decent pants I can wear, probably could get more, but yeah, it's the shirts where I'm struggling.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:36 (four months ago) link

I've kind of semi-given up. wearing some chaotic looks these days. loose pair of black wranglers with hi-tec hiking boots, a navy kappa sweatshirt and a black bomber that doesn't quite go is today's ensemble

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:41 (four months ago) link

100% cotton oxford shirts need ironing. I can't imagine not doing that. I don't own a dryer though. Maybe the dryer sorta lets out the thousands of deep wrinkles?


It does, but it depends on the weave and thickness and some other stuff I don’t fully understand, but mostly I like it somewhat rumpled anyway

I’m still an LL Bean stan for shirts tbrr

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:45 (four months ago) link

And I avoid “wrinkle resistant” and “no-iron” shit like the plague - keep that formaldehyde bullshit offa my torso thx

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:46 (four months ago) link

Maybe gitman vintage Moodles?

badg, Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:58 (four months ago) link

I think you are on the right track, I like their plaids, but holy smokes, I can't afford them

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 23:14 (four months ago) link

all of their web exclusives are really nice though

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 23:17 (four months ago) link

The way people throw out label names on this board I kinda assume most of you only have like 4 outfits in your closet and think that’s normal

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 October 2019 23:38 (four months ago) link

don't put anything in the dryer ever. socks and underwear, if you really need to but fuck's sake you don't need that

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:04 (four months ago) link

just iron your feckin shirts it takes minutes

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:05 (four months ago) link

you can't line dry in a new york apartment if that's what you're talking about.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:09 (four months ago) link

i got a henley and flannel shirt from j. crew last weekend. they're nice and i like them.

i'm sure this experience applies to literally no one else but i also work 100% from home and i work out twice a day so i'm pretty much always wearing wolaco tights, rogue t-shirts and nike metcons.

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:21 (four months ago) link

leggings rule, if women can wear yoga pants everywhere so can i

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:22 (four months ago) link

no it applies, i'm like 90% remote for work and the majority of days is just nike or under armour tops, running pants, and light technical jackets. all appropriate for workouts, chores, errands, and being on videoconferences from the shoulders up which are the only things i do monday-thursday.

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 October 2019 00:32 (four months ago) link

ive decided to dress like a grungy teen for last two years of my twenties. fuck it

flopson, Friday, 4 October 2019 00:32 (four months ago) link

now that it's cooling off my plan is to get deep into crewneck sweatshirts

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 October 2019 00:36 (four months ago) link

mangy ill-fitting black hoody and ripped jeans \m/

flopson, Friday, 4 October 2019 00:36 (four months ago) link

you can't line dry in a new york apartment if that's what you're talking about.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, October 4, 2019 1:09 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I live in a not very big flat. I use a collapsible rack

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 4 October 2019 08:49 (four months ago) link

new york apartments also don't have dryers so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 October 2019 09:05 (four months ago) link

put everything in the dryer unless it's fancy tbh

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:52 (four months ago) link

Dog Latin OTM, dryers are the enemy

badg, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:55 (four months ago) link

but on the other hand they make your clothes dry

lag∞n, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:57 (four months ago) link

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lag∞n, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:57 (four months ago) link

i've always used dryers but after a year of living with hippies i grew to appreciate line drying.

imagine my horror after putting out some clothes to dry in my sister's backyard to learn that DRYING CLOTHES OUTSIDE IS FORBIDDEN by the hoa in this shitty prefab muted pantone shade neighborhood. it might literally be the stupidest thing i have ever heard.

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:02 (four months ago) link

hoas are the mundane fascism

lag∞n, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:05 (four months ago) link

The way people throw out label names on this board I kinda assume most of you only have like 4 outfits in your closet and think that’s normal

This is pretty much me. All of my four/five outfits match, so they are all interchangeable: Five pairs of (mostly Outlier) pants (black, olive/gray, blue/gray, khaki, 1 pair of jeans), about 8 t-shirts with muted colors, 1 lightweight hoodie, and 3-4 button-ups. The hardest to match is the black pants and I won't be buying more of those for this reason. I hand wash my pants and certain button-ups when the weather is nice enough to line dry. (Clothes lines give a place character - fuck that HOA).

I read some article a few years ago by a woman who, for an experiment, wore the same outfit every day for I believe a year. Unsurprisingly, nobody noticed or gave a shit. I'm old, my clothes are purposely boring and highly functional. It's freeing to know that nobody is paying attention to what I wear.

beard papa, Friday, 4 October 2019 20:03 (four months ago) link

All of my four/five outfits match, so they are all interchangeable

Garanimals!

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 October 2019 21:34 (four months ago) link

I'd never heard of those before, but yes. Minus the dinosaur prints (unfortunately).

beard papa, Friday, 4 October 2019 21:39 (four months ago) link

On a whim I ordered both a stitch fix box and a trunk club box. I just feel stuck with clothes shopping lately and don’t have time to devote.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 01:47 (four months ago) link


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