The August 2019 US Politics Thread is dumb (stupid}

tfw when 'laws' are more important than child welfare

ICE rounds up hundreds of undocumented workers in immigration sweeps in Mississippi

U.S. immigration authorities on Wednesday rounded up hundreds of undocumented workers in food processing plants during a sprawling operation in Mississippi that officials touted as the largest immigration enforcement sweep in a single state in U.S. history.

By targeting workplaces across six different cities in southern Mississippi, Immigration and Customs and Enforcement (ICE) agents, with the help of the local district attorney's office, apprehended approximately 680 undocumented immigrants.

At a press conference on Wednesday afternoon, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi Mike Hurst said the large-scale raids collectively represented "the largest single state immigration enforcement operation in our nation's history."

"While we are a nation of immigrants, more than that, we are first and foremost a nation of laws," he told reporters at the press conference, where he was flanked by Acting ICE Director Matthew Albence.

Asked about what would happen to workers who have children in the U.S., Albence reiterated the administration's standard guidance that arrests in the criminal justice system lead to family separations. He said affected children would be placed with other family members and in some instances, some parents could be released with ankle bracelets.

In Forest, Mississippi, gym owner Jordan Barnes and other community leaders were taking donations to put some of the children up for the night in his Clear Creek Boot Camp and get them to school Thursday morning, reports CBS Jackson, Mississippi affiliate WJTV.

The station says many children of those arrested across the state were left with nowhere to go. Children, some as young as toddlers, were relying on neighbors and even strangers to pick them up and drive them to the gym, where people tried to keep them calm. But many of them couldn't stop crying for their parents, WJTV said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-raids-in-mississippi-officials-tout-largest-single-state-immigration-sweeps-in-us-history-today-2019-08-07/

good morning!

what is frogbs' FB friend waiting for? Trump and ICE would seem to be exactly what he's talking about!

it's only government tyranny when it's imposed on white people iirc

They'll put the guns away when there's no-one left to shoot.

so 680 people were rounded up and separated from their families—not at the Mexican border—and we are evidently inured enough to this that it doesn't merit a single mention on NYT home page

this is trending in a completely fucked direction

seems like they have cleared the first hurdle of outrage

well, yeah

what is frogbs' FB friend waiting for? Trump and ICE would seem to be exactly what he's talking about!

hah I brought that up and she got all mad about THE LAAAWWWWWSSSS

maybe remind your friend that illegally crossing the us border is a misdemeanour

TBF the common punishment for most misdemeanors in the US is being forcibly separated from your young children.

[RE-MOTHERFUCKING-DACTED]

All the assholes who need their guns just in case the government gets out of hand and taking away liberties etc YOUR TIME IS NOW, MOTHERFUCKERS

Worth a read.

TBF the common punishment for most misdemeanors in the US is being forcibly separated from your young children.

yeah so this is usually when she goes off about A) We have no way to tell if they're actually families!! 70% of them are actually human traffickers! (source: http://patriotnews.info) and B) If I do crimes and go to jail they take my kids away too!

it's almost like she's not arguing in good faith or something

I know it's as common as a cold, but I will never understand how people's basic humanity can slip away to such an extent that they can't at least empathize with the trauma of parents and children being separated from one another.

as for actual citizens being "accidentally" detained it really does seem this admin is now a stone's throw from giving up the pretense of error and just owning it as policy

yeah you might have proof to the contrary, you might have the law on your side (lol) but sorry you're brown a suspect until a single overwhelmed public defender can navigate you and a hundred others out of here

srsly what is going to prevent this from happening

easy to do when you don't think of people who don't share your skin tone as human and your attitude is reinforced by media which regularly refers to those people in deliberately dehumanising terms xp

And yet how many of these people would still shed a tear or two while watching a sad video about neglected puppies.

well, there aren't caravans of puppies swarming over the border, bringing disease, rape gangs and terrorists with them

I know it's as common as a cold, but I will never understand how people's basic humanity can slip away to such an extent that they can't at least empathize with the trauma of parents and children being separated from one another.

It's an extension of that self-shielding mechanism whereby you look away when walking by a slowly expiring hobo downtown. Focus on that sensation and intensify it infinity-fold – voilà, you're a neocon now.

she's on one today already

Hate whitey. Love diversity.
White man bad. White man evil.
Everyone else can do no wrong.
Fear white man. White = racist.
THERE ARE BAD AND GOOD PEOPLE OF EACH AND EVERY SKIN TONE. I'M NOT SORRY FOR MY SKIN COLOR. IM PROUD OF IT. IF YOU THINK THAT MAKES ME EVIL, YOU NEED SOME MENTAL HELP. STOP EATING WHAT THE MEDIA FEEDS YOU.

Sounds a little paranoid

STOP EATING WHAT THE MEDIA FEEDS YOU, THAT IS MY JOB.

why the fuck are you friends with this person

Habit's a helluva drug. Also the fear of dying alone.

It's like reading a screed on independent thought comprised entirely of pullquotes. So many brains out there that just don't work.

White man bad. White man evil.

to be fair, this IS the face tattoo that House democrats have pledged to require every American to get starting in 2020

if only the house dems were committed to anything approaching that kind of radical action

in other crushingly awful immigration policy news

OMG. I don’t care which side of political debate you’re on, this is just horrible.

Video of Jimmy Al Daoud , lived in US since was 6 months old, then got deported by ICE to Iraq in June.

Diabetic, homeless, didn’t know language. He died... pic.twitter.com/djKTXFbp48

— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) August 8, 2019

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/iraqi-man-dies-deportation-trump-administration-1643512

I should straight up ask her if she would've supported this guy getting a gun and shooting ICE agents but I really don't wanna engage right now

I'M NOT SORRY FOR MY SKIN COLOR. IM PROUD OF IT.

This is like being proud you have a gall bladder.

I'M NOT SORRY FOR MY SKIN COLOR. IM PROUD OF IT.

This is so funny to me. "I'm proud of my blue eyes! I worked hard on that shit!"

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I think a big reason why some of them cling to "but what about the laws??? I have empathy but these ppl broke the law!!!" to such a degree that it seems robotic is because they're trying like hell to not allow their empathy/humanity to enter into the equation and chip away at their racism/xenophobia

so there's a pic of Trump "consoling" a young girl in Dayton hospital. she couldn't have been one of the shooting victims. ???

"i just want everyone to follow the law!" is my mom's defense as well (my dad has none; he's just silent). it's not allowing empathy in, but also the fact that if they're wrong on this now, it also means they've been wrong about it for the entirety of their lives. vocally wrong. i think that possibility is just too much for some people to deal with, they won't even consider it. (i think about this in re: climate deniers, too)

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she could have been closely related to one of them?

she's a patient herself tho

not only would they have to admit to being wrong for year, but, even worse, libtards were right

"who is writing the law" is the obvious rejoinder but i understand that banging one's head against a wall delivers diminishing returns

they're stuck at Kohlberg stage 4

White man bad. White man evil.

I love it when Ludacris gets political

omg

So I get why the right is obsessed with antifa, but can anyone tell me if they’ve done anything actually newsworthy in the last year or so or is this just Fox News keeping the irons hot for viewership?

probably got up to some shit in Portland

also antifa isn't really a 'they'

why, do ey prefer spivak pronouns

i'm just confused by a text i got about how they should be labelled a terrorist organization. but knowing the sender, it's probably a dumb (stupid) question

antifa isn't an organization