Sunderland 'Til I Cry: EFL and beyond 19/20

Rosenior, brilliant

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/may/21/newsstory.sport5

Norwich's climb from the nadir was triggered by the insta-sacking of Gunn after a 7-1 opening day defeat to Colchester

Robins had a nervous breakdown and walked after an opening day 4-0 home drubbing against Bournemouth. The chairman said he was a brilliant technical manager who lacked people skills and cited his refusal to high 5 the jovial Jermaine Beckford on the training ground as an example of this.

You can probably trace a fairly steady decline for Colchester since that 7-1 too.

Beating someone 7-1 and having them immediately nick your manager will generally have a depressive effect, as will having your stadium miles out of town in a weird car park

Our pre-season optimism lasted around 35 minutes into a display of deep ineptitude against a rubbishy Macclesfield; by halfway through the second half my drunk mates were reduced to complaining that the yoof are not as good at singing songs as we all were in the old days (NB not true at all in my estimation but wevs) then we spawned an 87th minute winner and joy was very nearly unconfined.

Ah yes, Macclesfield - dear old Sol is ready

Won't (strike thru) Will always be fooled by an unbeaten preseason, and then feel all optimism drain away in first 20 mins of match 1.

Yeah. After the first game is much too early to be giving it the "gotta grind out points in this league" gubbins also.

Just passing Elland Rd ont bus and have a gigantic bamford head peering right at me at the traffic lights :x

Some lovely old buildings in Holbeck tbf

"Most of my constituency know I am not a football expert but it's my job to take up concerns when they are expressed to me and I have had a confidential briefing.

"I want to be satisfied that the sale was done by the book. The fans deserve to know that the sale of their football club has been done by the rules. I am not making a judgment."

The Examiner understands Mr Sheerman has not been in touch with Huddersfield Town directly to discuss his concerns.

A Huddersfield Town spokesman said: "The sale of the club has been ratified by the FA and the EFL as is part of the process."

lol the legitimate concerns of barry sheerman. just for some clarity our club used to be fully owned by a full on scumbag capitalist who utilised zero hour contracts and outsourcing to ruthlessly destroy his business rivals on the depleted high streets of the UK. And now the club is 3/4 owned by some amoral ambulance chaser who looks like a class a cunt as well. barry sheerman is the first mp to declare himself a professional lobbyist and now admits he doesn't know the difference between the Hudds and S Weds shirts after humiliating himself in a pub a couple of years back.

Did somebody say...'surprise package'?

you've totally cursed it now.

"We'll go for it," he told BBC Radio Suffolk. "Too many people come here and don't try to play but we'll go for it. We're playing rock and roll football."

presumably if other people like it, that's a bonus

https://hastingsflyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/30564_image_45647377_1898502896851441_4403624492505497600_n.jpg

Richards gone. Would have been nicer to have done it during the close season but we said that last year too.

Siewart gone.. never thought this golden era of 1 win in 8 months or whatever the fuck it was would ever come to an end!

You get beat again? 2-1 down last time I looked

yeah finished 2-1, fucking Cavelerio finished us off! lots of talk of the players despising the manager, our chairman was on the verge of sacking him after the league cup defeat the other night. Always had a feeling it would be all downhill after Wagner went. Or at least normalis negotium as pom would say!

just for Bacuna's dopey assist for the Mitrovic opener - I seriously never want to see that cunt play for us again, and him looking like a L2 player and giving the ball away umpteen times a minute. While we were in the prem our recruitment was fucking shocking.

there are reports he was sacked on wednesday, but the chairman told him: seeing as he'd already picked his team for tonight he might as well stick about for another game before getting pumped.

Pușcaș looks like an excellent signing for Reading.

As I say that he misses a one on one under no pressure whatsoever.

damn, you can get a shit hot Romanian international striker for €8m these days. I wish our shitty scouting dept knew this last season.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECW2YhvWsAAH4zO?format=jpg&name=900x900

lool

:D

Looks like dear old Oldham are in a spot of bother, largely flying under the radar AFAICT amid the massive pits of bother that Bury and Bolton find themselves in.

Luckily for the Latics they're playing us this evening and there's nothing we like to do more than donate three dumb points to crisis clubs.

I still can't get past my tribal hatred for Oldham whose fans were very shitty when we were the crisis club and our ex-player Wijnard tormented our dysfunctional defence. Also fuck them for the time they gave a contract to vehicular homicide scumbag Lee Hughes. Hope they go bust!

I've nothing against Oldham but I'd just as soon see them slide ignominiously out of the league as see them go bust in a blaze of Bury-style publicity. (They would be the first team that had been in the Premier League to do so I think?)

I haven't checked but I bet not many clubs have spent as many consecutive seasons in League 1 as Oldham have in the modern era, and if hadn't have been for that meddling amateur Scholesy ....

What is this new Bolton bullshit

they were just calmly preparing to field an XI of children as they normally do and some spoilsport postponed the game!

Squeaky bum time in the most exciting footballing action of the day. I imagine "C&N Sporting Risk, headed by Henry Newman and Rory Campbell" are running round the office printing off bank statements.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433

Reminds me of the collapse of Hereford United where the scumbag owner didn't turn up for refinancing in court as he was "stuck in traffic" and the company was immediately dissolved.

Bury FC Crisis: Company which bought £7m debt for £70,000 and now wants £1.75m for it, reportedly owned by partner of daughter of club owner Steve Dale. Jaw-dropping detail in the wreckage of this football club. https://t.co/IGVPxYAddp

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 23, 2019

EFL did some cracking fit and proper testing on this Dale fellow.

Steve Dale has been telling some media that a deal has been done. The potential buyers have told James Frith MP that's not the case. Yet. #BuryFC

— Chris Hall (@chrishallitv) August 23, 2019

we've had quite a few momentously big scoring win lose draws against Bury in my lifetime - including 0-6, 6-0, 4-4, 3-3 in the last couple of decades. I love Gigg Lane as well despite only going there twice. Good luck Bury.

we are going through the longest period of terrible football and sustained losing since that 70's period that some older fans with a slight touch of grandiloquence refer to as The Great Decline. When the designated disabled area is abandoned by the contemptible prem daytrippers that took over it like a fucking disease - i'll be happy to get a season ticket again, because half empty stands is the only environment that works with the kid. At least yesterday our useless caretaker manager realised Elphick is an old slow liability that is finished at this level, probably finished at L1 level (where we are headed) as well so a complete waste of a wage. It reminds me of when we signed Unsworth when he was an old knackered useless bastard as well.

I've often complained to stewards that there should be an autism friendly section of the ground, and they agreed. But shite football is the only real solution for empty banks of seats.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/17751427.middlesbrough-continue-investigate-transfers-garry-monks-time-charge/

he always looked like face from crimewatch did this cunt, never trust anyone who spells Gary with 2 R's and wears wooly cardigans in the summer.

BREAKING: Bury FC Crisis: The proposed purchase by C & N Sporting Risk is OFF; owner Steve Dale was given until 5pm today for it to complete or the club would be expelled from the Football League, so this really could be the end.

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 27, 2019

it looks like Bury will be gone within the hour.

Ugh, I feel very bad for the Bury fans suffering at the hands of a bunch of stuff outside their control.

Having said that, there's a piece of me that would be irritated by their being saved at the last minute, rewarding them for massively overspending to buy promotion last year (my lot finished one point outside the play-off places, remember). I try to keep that piece of me under control because ultimately it's the Bury FC community that loses its club, and it's hardly their fault they enjoyed last season on the never-never.

Presumably the ground will be disposed of as part of an insolvency process? That's quite an important factor in any phoenix club starting up.

I'm not sure tbh - some phoenix clubs retained their grounds didn't they? Just currently balancing the genuine sadness of a great old historic football ground getting turned into shit new houses vs the idea of telling Danny Boyle that this is fucking karma - you complete stain!

Ha!

When we nearly went under, the fact that the Council owned the ground (which is a whole other dumb story in our dumb history) was very helpful, because it meant that it couldn't be sold to cover the debt the previous owners had run up. I think this is a common experience for other teams where the worst has happened - if you have to find / finance a new ground that's a whole different order of pain from recruiting a football team.

Going to be uber #FBPE and look at the EU ref results for Bury and Burnley and have a wee chuckle to myself

oof actually if i still had twitter i could go on a deep dive for supporters of those clubs who have made fun of the SPFL.

too bad i have work to do today

there's no silver lining to this

just don't look at Scumbet next Town manager odds rn

well if Crystal Palace are after a shithousing and Pulisball manager he'd be a much cheaper option than Cooper I hear

we've just signed Ollie Turton and I was thinking where I have I heard that name before and then remembered he was the lad that scored the fastest own goal in playoff final history only 4 days ago. Tbf he was in a bit of a pickle when it occurred and Blackpool fans like him + say he's a consistent performer defensively despite not offering much going forwards and lacking pace. But results suffered a lot when Pipa got injured last season so a fair squad strengthening signing.

sounds like Wagner is going to the Baggies... jeez wtf happened to you Dave? u used to be beautiful

Torquay's keeper scores with the last touch of the ball to take the playoff final to extra time.

Poor old Torkey, out on pens. Guess there was no way to get a police dog to help them this time.

Dean Moxey had now lost playoff finals in three of the last four years (two of them with Exeter).

so Dean is lacking a bit of... never mind

Valerian Ismael to Baggies is looking almost a done deal. He seems like a good manager. He transformed Barnsley from mid-table to relegation fodder dross to a very tight well organised unit that only just fell short of promotion.

will never forget when Barnsley were briefly in the PL and there was a picture in the paper with all the club badges and there in amongst all the iconic designs was this

https://i1.wp.com/worldsoccerpins.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Barnsley-FC-1981-1998-Alternative-Logo.png

https://i2-prod.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/article12164178.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/Logos.jpg

dogs on football badges always looks utterly shite, the Town and Barnsley badges probably had an influence on Northern Independence Party logo as well and look where it got them clowns!

Rhodes has managed to enrage the Wednesdayites by calmly scoring a decent pen against them today. The backstory on this is that he shit it and refused to step up for the pen shootout they lost against us in the '17 playoffs semi. Lol it's certainly not his fault their club's owners were carelessly profligate enough to pay him 5 times what he was worth on a 5 year contract when he was already past his best.

just reading that Derby are offering "zero-money" contracts to players with just their names on and no wage figures, lol a novel approach but it wouldn't even worked in the maximum wage era.

lol what

I've only a vague understanding of what's going down from reading tweets by the Sun wanker Nixon here

"Derby County. Players turn up for training fearing the worst after Morris comments. Have summit and then ALL handed contracts. Names on but no figures of wages. Need to be signed by tomorrow midday to play at weekend. "

nixon is not remotely to be trusted

we've got them first game which is bad really. I remember when we had "crisis club" Brentford first game. In financial meltdown.. barely enough senior players to make an XI blah blah... useless braindead lump Wally Downes managing them.. they still inflicted the easiest 2-0 away win they probably encountered that season.

we have wednesday at home first up lol

live on sky! tune in folks!!!

they looked decent and well organised on Sunday for a first game of season encounter. Bannan is still a pain in the arse and will be top player in L1.

a top player not THE I meant!

our three-man midfield is gonna end the scrote

We’ve got Bratfud at our place, looking forward to just being there tbh, bet we get stuffed having just sold our best player to the Pish.

Oh dear I mean the Posh.

Season kicks off at home to Farsley Celtic next weekend then up to BPA the weekend after, so two games against mid-table teams before likely high-flyers Fylde at the Bank Holiday.

Preseason has been a very, very mixed bag but with only 13 players signed on as yet the unending avalanche of trialists hasn't helped. And let's not mention the Cheltenham match.

Keep hearing that it’s been a quiet transfer window and lots of players are holding out for better deals - I was expecting a cascade of players dropping down divisions as clubs trim squads but that doesn’t seem to have happened (yet)

Exeter living on through their former players lol, imposing posho Jayden Stockley probably gonna be our skipper this season (at least I hope he is)

It has been a really difficult transfer window for anyone not called Ipswich Town tho aye

Really? I thought he was too focussed on himself to be a good captain, never mind being a bit too free with the old elbows.

Rochdale trust rightly concerned about prospective owners, interesting to see how the EFL responds: https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/08/trust-contact-efl-over-comments/

rumours of a covid outbreak amongst our first team affecting at least four key players + the manager have seen "crisis club" Derby's odds slashed by 2-3 points apparently. lol, bloody typical.

rumours are the club have requested a postponement and the EFL have refused. Rotherham got a game postponed last season with one confirmed positive case and few others showing symptoms - perhaps they've changed the postponement rules after that logjam of games in hand the Millers built up last season became quite contentious amongst the relegation clubs.

at last some good news.. Koroma tested negative + is available

The greatest footballer of all time stepping in to save Calz's afternoon

yeah gtf in! nice bullet header equaliser from Sarr from a perfect Sorba free kick, he can be so dangerous at both ends of the pitch! Terrible game so far but football is back baby!

finally bringing on Koroma to torture their slow old centre backs

3 points for Wimbledon and a goal for the wonderful Assal, plus a late Bolton equaliser against the scum, a good day

Buzzing for the first proper match at new plough lane next weekend

you never mentioned that your 21 year old left-back is no less the grandson of Alec Guinness

Leeds have spent so much time doing penny-pinching haggling over the price of O'Brien that apparently Burnley and Palace are coming in with better offers now. When you know a player is good always refuse derisory first offers and wait for the bidding war to start. Although allegedly he doesn't want to go to Burnley for some reason.

oh man I'm so buzzing O'Brien might be going to Palace rather than Leeds. Apparently Bielsa is fucking fuming that they offered a derisory first bid, because he's been watching him a long time and has an agreement with the club that his targets must be sorted in a timely fashion with no fucking about, like before the season starts.

So we couldn't muster a full bench on Saturday and our supposed first choice striker had an absolute mare, including missing a penalty, so he's decided a contract he signed 2 weeks ago isn't going to work for him after all because of family commitments and he's left.

I wish some of our players would do the same

Your keeper's effort on Saturday was in a different class for their first goal.

Schofield is only starting because his amazing replacement (a freebie who got released by MK dons) has got the Rona. Some say he's the worst Town keeper they've ever seen. I say he's about the 2nd or 3rd worst.

the lino missing the ball crossing the line before the wonder-blunder minutes after we had a perfectly good goal ruled out was how I saw it at the time on the stream. Haven't looked at any replays because it doesn't make any difference on how shit Scofield is and how much we deserved to lose.

Yeah to be fair his standing foot looks nearly a yard over the line so how it never got spotted was dreadful. The hoof back to him was appalling though as they said on the EFL show about the second goal 'now we see why he was trying so hard to prevent the corner'.