The New Adventures of ILXor: The Animated Series Poll voting and campaigning thread

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Hanna-Barbera is mostly garbage imo. I don't know how they were so successful at creating a slew of iconic characters that everyone knows because they sure didn't do much to make them memorable.

― Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:35 AM

Alex Toth, Iwao Takamoto, Doug Wildey, Daws Butler and Don Messick, Ruby & Spears, Michael Maltese, just for starters. "Didn't do much to make them memorable" way off the money.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:02 (four months ago) link

god there's so much to get through here lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:07 (four months ago) link

how to weigh stuff that was beloved to me as a child vs stuff i enjoyed mostly as an adult

for instance i'm sure Doug would not hold up in 2019 as one of my favorite animated shows of all time and yet this poster is currently hanging over my desk:

https://i.imgur.com/nFljJhW.jpg

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:11 (four months ago) link

I'm reading about some of the H-B cartoons during the kitchen sink/dumpster era of the 70s and it's kind of impressive how brazen they were in ripping off their own properties

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:12 (four months ago) link

I mean, they wanted to do a Jetsons spin-off, CBS wanted something with the Partridge Family instead, so they made... Partridge Family 2200 A.D.? Sure, why not!

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:13 (four months ago) link

25 titles eh?
one more write-in vote idea: OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:17 (four months ago) link

i would not complain about longer ballots

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:18 (four months ago) link

c'mon u only get to vote in a best animated series of all time list once in yr life

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:18 (four months ago) link

another write in idea for yall: Amazing World of Gumball, The

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:20 (four months ago) link

anime division:

1. yes, everyone should watch eva

2. i will be placing sailor moon very high on my ballot even though it is the most uneven work of art i love, long stretches of it even suck because, like dragon ball, it was so hideously popular that they stretched out the plot arcs to near-indefinite lengths. the third season (sailor moon s) is, however, pretty amazing and consistent regardless, and i'd recommend anyone who wants to know why sailor moon is any good at all check out an episode or two from it, even though it'll probably make zero sense, it's a deceptively complicated show with overlapping timelines and time travel and ancient and future utopian kingdoms on the moon etc. the show is occasionally plagued by regressive attitudes about gender roles but by s it's fully about how everyone is a lesbian

3. if you would like to get into an anime for the purposes of this poll that isn't 250 episodes long, i recommend the 12-episode haibane renmei, which in its goodheartedness and its devotion to the intricacies of its world is as close as we'll ever get to a studio ghibli animated series (barring nadia: the secret of blue water which given its miyazaki origins is the ghibli animated series but it's 30-something episodes long and a subset of those episodes actively suck, which is why i've never finished it)

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:20 (four months ago) link

adult swim division:

1. home movies: i hope everyone is aware of how devastatingly good this show was. metalocalypse and bob's burgers are fine and often funny, and dr. katz is amazing, but this is bouchard and small's peak, which is weird because from the jump it's so haphazardly- and improvisationally-made and has a weirdly personal aspect, but by the time the third season starts, it just feels like it's made with so much... love? every character has this wonderful individual presence and pretty much all the jokes are character-derived and it's such a rich and warm experience

2. space ghost: still my favorite williams street show, even though it's the first (?) and the longest, even the very earliest episodes have this sense of surreality and ridiculousness and total freedom that could only come from repurposing a bad hanna barbera cartoon into a talk show format. the thom yorke/björk episode ("knifin' around"), which iirc aired shortly after the show entered the adult swim lineup instead of being a free-floating 11pm/midnight-ish show that i regularly confused with cartoon planet (same characters, no interviews, lot of good brak songs), still gets me rolling on the floor clutching my sides. aqua teen (which was a space ghost spinoff!!!) in many ways pushed this style further but i don't have nearly as much affection for it

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:35 (four months ago) link

oh god i should've nominated aggretsuko

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:36 (four months ago) link

og Space Ghost (as opposed to Space Ghost: Coast to Coast) deserves some love

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:36 (four months ago) link

i've never actually seen og space ghost so i apologize for calling it "bad" lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:37 (four months ago) link

the overall design is chefskiss.jpg Alex Toth

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:41 (four months ago) link

yes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:46 (four months ago) link

FTR, when I trash H-B, I'm not talking about the character or sound design or the voicework, a lot of which was good to great. I'm talking about the badly-animated and unengaging final product which made poor use of those successful elements.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:13 (four months ago) link

Brad otm with both adult swim division recs. Home Movies will be at the top of my ballot.

I think it's a little too niche for the "shockingly old when I learned" thread, but it blew my mind to recently discover that Jon Benjamin did Jason's voice as well as McGuirk. Jason is an all-time character.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:13 (four months ago) link

Yeah, Home Movies is great and will be high up on my ballot.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:15 (four months ago) link

Did Paranoia Agent make it onto the nomination list?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:26 (four months ago) link

that URL again is http://stuff.jklol.net/cartoon_noms.txt

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:26 (four months ago) link

I may or may not ninja late arrivals into the nom list as suits my caprice

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:27 (four months ago) link

ah thank you

I don't know if they belong per se but I am a little surprised not to see My Hero Academia, Black Clover, Bleach, Inuyasha, One Piece, Naruto, or Voltron, especially considering that The Cleveland Show got a nomination

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:31 (four months ago) link

Re: theme songs, if you don't vote for the Raccoons theme tune you're dead inside.

― emil.y,

It's good. But it's no Mysterious Cities of Gold (which I will also be ranking highly in the main poll).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ki99YBVKyw

chap, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:32 (four months ago) link

oh shit i can't believe we didn't nom aggretsuko

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:33 (four months ago) link

btw while we're mentioning it metalocalypse is not just fine and often funny but sometimes brilliant + hilariously inventive - i think the scene where nathan tries to apologize and it causes a rupture in the earth is hilarious. also brandon small does like tons of the voices and he's sorta a voice-over genius.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:34 (four months ago) link

some of Brendon Small's best work in recent years imo has been his Comedy Bang Bang appearances as aspiring lounge singer Victor Diamond and his friend and manager Tiny, simultaneously. Which he is astonishingly good at, like how can you be that good at switching between two funny voices in an improv situation. Sadly consigned to the fuckin Stitcher Premium paywall at this point but worth a listen imo.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:37 (four months ago) link

It was a sad day when Willy became a regular 3rd voice that accompanied Victor and Tiny's appearances. They were gold without him. It definitely makes Small's performance all the more impressive, but holy hell does that character voice grate.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:48 (four months ago) link

Did Paranoia Agent make it onto the nomination list?

― brigadier pudding (DJP)

Yep, it's in there. You had me worried for a minute.

emil.y, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:49 (four months ago) link

it's no Mysterious Cities of Gold (which I will also be ranking highly in the main poll)

I only know the theme tune, I don't think I ever saw the series itself!

emil.y, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 16:50 (four months ago) link

Paranoia Agent here?

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCESR3puCm82PQH2ecE-KOCwvwBpNyXX9

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:15 (four months ago) link

btw while we're mentioning it metalocalypse is not just fine and often funny but sometimes brilliant + hilariously inventive - i think the scene where nathan tries to apologize and it causes a rupture in the earth is hilarious. also brandon small does like tons of the voices and he's sorta a voice-over genius.

― Mordy, Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:34 AM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's true i was underrating metalocalypse

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:17 (four months ago) link

i'm not ashamed to admit i saw Dethklok live and they (he) did some skits between songs (animations on a screen behind the band) and was doing the voiceovers live. sometimes while playing guitar. as goofy as it was, it was also really impressive.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:34 (four months ago) link

i nommed paranoia agent.
can't believe we missed voltron, i'll write that in.
will def vote for home movies; will likely vote for metalocalypse

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:38 (four months ago) link

if ppl want to post links to specific episodes of shows here i'd be interested in watching them. when i get home tnite i'll try to find some good representative stuff for some of my fave choices.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:40 (four months ago) link

ya, i never thought much of it at the time – but maybe i might should check out Home Movies.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:42 (four months ago) link

it's no Mysterious Cities of Gold (which I will also be ranking highly in the main poll)

I only know the theme tune, I don't think I ever saw the series itself!

the main theme is still sometimes stuck in my head after all these decades but please could someone make me a full album-length extended mix of this incidental excerpt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBUPdt-F6jU

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 18:34 (four months ago) link

oh my god, someone already did (well, they looped it for 53 minutes, close enough)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0wOpI3R91s

I can die happy, in 52 minutes

(though RIP the best bit i.e. the sublime choir hit at the end which has got lost in the looping, but hey, extra tension if you now wait 53 minutes for it instead of 1¾, right?)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 18:38 (four months ago) link

OMG I FORGOT TO NOMINATE CARTOON PLANET (aka Space Ghost's delightful step-sibling aka the source of most of the best Brak material)

This is simply indefensible.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 18:38 (four months ago) link

what day is it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcPSmFhmhJ4

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 18:39 (four months ago) link

silby, I promise this is the only entreaty I will make itt. Please, for the love of all that is good and decent in the world, add Cartoon Planet to the list. I will literally be your best friend forever.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 18:43 (four months ago) link

brak show was the apex of a specific style of nerd humor for me

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 18:51 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VI_yJsT5Fc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDhpC3vl8Og

All of the soundtracks released for Cartoon Planet are golden and well worth owning.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:15 (four months ago) link

another mindmeld with OL and me here i see

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:45 (four months ago) link

btw if "A Cruel Angel's Thesis" doesn't win best OP organically I am going to doctor the results so if you want to preserve the integrity of the theme song poll you had better vote for it

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:47 (four months ago) link

^ unfair to post that one I guess since it's extended from the version actually used as the OP but whatever

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:48 (four months ago) link

I should note that best theme/OP nominations don't have to be The Canonical One, so Brad should feel free to vote for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5txHGxJRwtQ

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:51 (four months ago) link

OP is opening... poem?

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:53 (four months ago) link

it's just "OPening", it's a weeaboo term of art

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:53 (four months ago) link

Voted!

tangenttangent, Friday, 6 September 2019 21:40 (three months ago) link

x2!

imago, Friday, 6 September 2019 21:53 (three months ago) link

ilx's favorite bloc

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:08 (three months ago) link

Sent!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 September 2019 22:35 (three months ago) link

sent mine!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 September 2019 23:23 (three months ago) link

don't wait for me, won't be able to send one..

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 7 September 2019 11:19 (three months ago) link

Likewise, alas, but looking forward to the results.

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 7 September 2019 19:04 (three months ago) link

There’s still time, I might allow the remainder of the week. I’m still hoping a few Brits who have been participating in the threads will get ballots in. Also, people who are not men are heartily encouraged to submit ballots, especially if you are just lurking. If you’re reading this and have an ilx account you are an eligible voter!

― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, September 2, 2019 6:23 PM (six days ago)

The deadline was Friday but I agree that more female input would of been good. I cut Sailor Moon from my theme song list. I didn’t realize that a top 25 would have so much competition.

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 8 September 2019 00:49 (three months ago) link

The official deadline has passed but it’s not too late until I’m done and I’m not done yet :)

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Sunday, 8 September 2019 00:57 (three months ago) link

Sent. Sorry it was so late, I dont look at ILX as much as I used to and I plum forgot.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 8 September 2019 23:46 (three months ago) link

With Trayce's ballot in under the wire, I have sent the top 77 animated series of ilxor dot com to my lovely and talented Rollout Assistants. Once they're ready to go, I'll put up a results thread! In the meantime, go ahead and kibitz!

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 9 September 2019 00:18 (three months ago) link

what's the # of points for #77? i'm curious how many ballots you need in one of these things to get to 77 without single-voter entries

ciderpress, Monday, 9 September 2019 00:46 (three months ago) link


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