The New Adventures of ILXor: The Animated Series Poll voting and campaigning thread

LOL and that now reminds me, theres no Voltron in the overall list. hahaha.

No one posted Hong Kong Phooey? I didn't nom as I assumed it would have been nominated.

― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 18:59 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Or Undercover Elephant! Or The Hunter!

Completely forgot about Voltron. I enjoyed the first few seasons of the Netflix series but then dropped off, for some reason.

I considered nominating Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog for a bit there, but thought better of it.

What I've seen of Beyond hasn't blown me away.

it's spider-man-as-batman with kevin conroy and bruce timm going full kirby! what's not to like?

(admittedly i haven't seen a frame of it in like 15 years but still)

I don't dislike what I've seen (which honestly isn't that much), it just hasn't grabbed me the way almost all of the other DCAU stuff does. Imma get back around to continuing with it eventually. Maybe this poll is the motivation I need.

i'm warming up to Gravity Falls nut Gonna give up on Steven Universe. the Bowie rip off theme song also really gets under my skin.

It always reminded me too much of Sufjan Stevens.

Re: theme songs, if you don't vote for the Raccoons theme tune you're dead inside.

steven universe is worth sticking w/ imo.

also if you're checking out SU + GF, check out AT too, and then bravest warriors + bea + puppycat which are from ppl who worked on these other projects but are shorter weirder online shows.

if AT = Adventure Time, no worries – i'm already a big fan. i can see the influence on SU for sure.

There's a lot of Hanna-Barbera stuff I vaguely expected to see nominated and didn't: the original Yogi Bear Show, Top Cat, Hong Kong Phooey, Jetsons, Snagglepuss...

Not sure I'd have voted for any of it, maybe Yogi and TC at the bottom of my ballot, so NBD for me, just surprised.

Re: theme songs, if you don't vote for the Raccoons theme tune you're dead inside.

OTM! I tried to answer the "what songs have an epic 80s mysterious night-time vibe like this?"* q on the "Self Control" thread but my brain got stuck on the Raccoons theme tune and thought it might be, you know, a bit of a category error to reply to a question about actual pop hits with a cheesy kids' show theme tune (which is great) (at least it's great if you're 8 years old or drunk, anyway)

* probably not the actual phrasing of the question what it got rewritten as in my head

Hanna-Barbera is mostly garbage imo. I don't know how they were so successful at creating a slew of iconic characters that everyone knows because they sure didn't do much to make them memorable.

I agree that Raccoons has the best theme tune, however I have found that plenty of people don't know it has a mostly-non-Rraccoons music video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usFFKNRB2z8

I have watched this more times than I'd like to admit.

Want to reiterate that as usual it’s ok to vote for things that aren’t nominated, I just reserve the right to bounce them if I’m confused.

nom list is missing The Yoga Bear Show

i got my shortlist down to 56 items now i just need to figure out how to halve that and how to weigh stuff that was beloved to me as a child vs stuff i enjoyed mostly as an adult

Hanna-Barbera is mostly garbage imo. I don't know how they were so successful at creating a slew of iconic characters that everyone knows because they sure didn't do much to make them memorable.

― Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:35 AM

Alex Toth, Iwao Takamoto, Doug Wildey, Daws Butler and Don Messick, Ruby & Spears, Michael Maltese, just for starters. "Didn't do much to make them memorable" way off the money.

god there's so much to get through here lol

how to weigh stuff that was beloved to me as a child vs stuff i enjoyed mostly as an adult

for instance i'm sure Doug would not hold up in 2019 as one of my favorite animated shows of all time and yet this poster is currently hanging over my desk:

https://i.imgur.com/nFljJhW.jpg

I'm reading about some of the H-B cartoons during the kitchen sink/dumpster era of the 70s and it's kind of impressive how brazen they were in ripping off their own properties

I mean, they wanted to do a Jetsons spin-off, CBS wanted something with the Partridge Family instead, so they made... Partridge Family 2200 A.D.? Sure, why not!

25 titles eh?
one more write-in vote idea: OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes

i would not complain about longer ballots

c'mon u only get to vote in a best animated series of all time list once in yr life

another write in idea for yall: Amazing World of Gumball, The

anime division:

1. yes, everyone should watch eva

2. i will be placing sailor moon very high on my ballot even though it is the most uneven work of art i love, long stretches of it even suck because, like dragon ball, it was so hideously popular that they stretched out the plot arcs to near-indefinite lengths. the third season (sailor moon s) is, however, pretty amazing and consistent regardless, and i'd recommend anyone who wants to know why sailor moon is any good at all check out an episode or two from it, even though it'll probably make zero sense, it's a deceptively complicated show with overlapping timelines and time travel and ancient and future utopian kingdoms on the moon etc. the show is occasionally plagued by regressive attitudes about gender roles but by s it's fully about how everyone is a lesbian

3. if you would like to get into an anime for the purposes of this poll that isn't 250 episodes long, i recommend the 12-episode haibane renmei, which in its goodheartedness and its devotion to the intricacies of its world is as close as we'll ever get to a studio ghibli animated series (barring nadia: the secret of blue water which given its miyazaki origins is the ghibli animated series but it's 30-something episodes long and a subset of those episodes actively suck, which is why i've never finished it)

adult swim division:

1. home movies: i hope everyone is aware of how devastatingly good this show was. metalocalypse and bob's burgers are fine and often funny, and dr. katz is amazing, but this is bouchard and small's peak, which is weird because from the jump it's so haphazardly- and improvisationally-made and has a weirdly personal aspect, but by the time the third season starts, it just feels like it's made with so much... love? every character has this wonderful individual presence and pretty much all the jokes are character-derived and it's such a rich and warm experience

2. space ghost: still my favorite williams street show, even though it's the first (?) and the longest, even the very earliest episodes have this sense of surreality and ridiculousness and total freedom that could only come from repurposing a bad hanna barbera cartoon into a talk show format. the thom yorke/björk episode ("knifin' around"), which iirc aired shortly after the show entered the adult swim lineup instead of being a free-floating 11pm/midnight-ish show that i regularly confused with cartoon planet (same characters, no interviews, lot of good brak songs), still gets me rolling on the floor clutching my sides. aqua teen (which was a space ghost spinoff!!!) in many ways pushed this style further but i don't have nearly as much affection for it

oh god i should've nominated aggretsuko

og Space Ghost (as opposed to Space Ghost: Coast to Coast) deserves some love

i've never actually seen og space ghost so i apologize for calling it "bad" lol

the overall design is chefskiss.jpg Alex Toth

yes

FTR, when I trash H-B, I'm not talking about the character or sound design or the voicework, a lot of which was good to great. I'm talking about the badly-animated and unengaging final product which made poor use of those successful elements.

Brad otm with both adult swim division recs. Home Movies will be at the top of my ballot.

I think it's a little too niche for the "shockingly old when I learned" thread, but it blew my mind to recently discover that Jon Benjamin did Jason's voice as well as McGuirk. Jason is an all-time character.

Yeah, Home Movies is great and will be high up on my ballot.

Did Paranoia Agent make it onto the nomination list?

that URL again is http://stuff.jklol.net/cartoon_noms.txt

I may or may not ninja late arrivals into the nom list as suits my caprice

ah thank you

I don't know if they belong per se but I am a little surprised not to see My Hero Academia, Black Clover, Bleach, Inuyasha, One Piece, Naruto, or Voltron, especially considering that The Cleveland Show got a nomination

Re: theme songs, if you don't vote for the Raccoons theme tune you're dead inside.

― emil.y,

It's good. But it's no Mysterious Cities of Gold (which I will also be ranking highly in the main poll).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ki99YBVKyw

oh shit i can't believe we didn't nom aggretsuko

btw while we're mentioning it metalocalypse is not just fine and often funny but sometimes brilliant + hilariously inventive - i think the scene where nathan tries to apologize and it causes a rupture in the earth is hilarious. also brandon small does like tons of the voices and he's sorta a voice-over genius.

some of Brendon Small's best work in recent years imo has been his Comedy Bang Bang appearances as aspiring lounge singer Victor Diamond and his friend and manager Tiny, simultaneously. Which he is astonishingly good at, like how can you be that good at switching between two funny voices in an improv situation. Sadly consigned to the fuckin Stitcher Premium paywall at this point but worth a listen imo.

It was a sad day when Willy became a regular 3rd voice that accompanied Victor and Tiny's appearances. They were gold without him. It definitely makes Small's performance all the more impressive, but holy hell does that character voice grate.

Did Paranoia Agent make it onto the nomination list?

― brigadier pudding (DJP)

Yep, it's in there. You had me worried for a minute.

it's no Mysterious Cities of Gold (which I will also be ranking highly in the main poll)

I only know the theme tune, I don't think I ever saw the series itself!

Paranoia Agent here?

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCESR3puCm82PQH2ecE-KOCwvwBpNyXX9

btw while we're mentioning it metalocalypse is not just fine and often funny but sometimes brilliant + hilariously inventive - i think the scene where nathan tries to apologize and it causes a rupture in the earth is hilarious. also brandon small does like tons of the voices and he's sorta a voice-over genius.

― Mordy, Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:34 AM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's true i was underrating metalocalypse

i'm not ashamed to admit i saw Dethklok live and they (he) did some skits between songs (animations on a screen behind the band) and was doing the voiceovers live. sometimes while playing guitar. as goofy as it was, it was also really impressive.

Anthology shows are probably more out of scope than in but it's on the list so plz vote for it if you like

It contained at least one of the other entries (Aeon Flux) iirc

Only partially, right? I.e. the series was full-length (20-something minutes).

Yeah, series was its own thing spun off from the Liquid Television shorts.

I decided to cut it out, I don't think it does fit the brief even though it was ace. Have sent my ballot through now, it was massively rushed but I've not really had the right head on to do this properly so I just went with my gut/ruthlessly cut.

trust your gut, it's all in fun, we just want to have a fun list to look at in the end! Thanks emily!

compiling a ballot. as it stands, my top 3 is the two most wholesome things on the nomination list sandwiching the least

will be turning in a ballot by tomorrow at worst

Sorry, I completely forgot about this, but I will send a ballot today.

Tuomas! 🙌

Done by tonight. tt as well

are you sending confirmation emails?

Yes, but upon processing, not receipt.

sent! (twice, bc i screwed the first ballot up by forgetting to vote for something)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0wkHixS6iA
good theme

lol the subject line of the ballot I sent was accidentally "Animated ballot FlopsyFuck"

Sent my ballot too.

Voted!

x2!

ilx's favorite bloc

Sent!

sent mine!

don't wait for me, won't be able to send one..

Likewise, alas, but looking forward to the results.

There’s still time, I might allow the remainder of the week. I’m still hoping a few Brits who have been participating in the threads will get ballots in. Also, people who are not men are heartily encouraged to submit ballots, especially if you are just lurking. If you’re reading this and have an ilx account you are an eligible voter!

― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, September 2, 2019 6:23 PM (six days ago)

The deadline was Friday but I agree that more female input would of been good. I cut Sailor Moon from my theme song list. I didn’t realize that a top 25 would have so much competition.

The official deadline has passed but it’s not too late until I’m done and I’m not done yet :)

Sent. Sorry it was so late, I dont look at ILX as much as I used to and I plum forgot.

With Trayce's ballot in under the wire, I have sent the top 77 animated series of ilxor dot com to my lovely and talented Rollout Assistants. Once they're ready to go, I'll put up a results thread! In the meantime, go ahead and kibitz!

what's the # of points for #77? i'm curious how many ballots you need in one of these things to get to 77 without single-voter entries

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