David Crosby's If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D?

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i think there about 4 other bands i'd rather see neil get back together with

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

i mean, pearl jam would be more interesting for heaven's sake ... maybe it's time for a 20th anniversary mirror ball reunion tour.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

I know people don't like Stills but I kinda feel for the guy, I read somewhere he's going deaf and his voice has been cooked for awhile

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

one of my go-to 'what if' scenarios is imagining Neil never joined CSN, and they just covered his stuff once in a while at the most.

whitehallunity, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

is this streaming anywhere?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

Crosby seems kind of lonely right now; if you call him up, he may let you come over and watch it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

I'm sure he would love to hear how I wrote a sort of snarky song about him

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

i mean croz is sort of a legendary asshole with regrettable facial hair and probably that liver could have gone to someone more virtuous but on the other side of the equation he is at least apparently dying more-or-less alone and unloved, which is a fate a lot of legendary assholes seem to avoid, and also he did write some fucking fantastic songs. there are people a lot more worth hating than croz, is what i'm saying, enough of them that i just don't have any hatred left over for him.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

Def prefer the work of Crosby and Stills over Nash’s wubbly weak stuff

brimstead, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link

Nash’s Hollies songs > Crosby’s Byrds songs

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link

yeah what a fine metric to judge them by

brimstead, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

the best hollies song is “dragging my heels”

brimstead, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link

I think I just don’t like the sound of his voice and his treacly songwriting. I like the sample of “Chicago” in that beanie Siegel song... I like “teach your children” but mainly for jerry garcia

brimstead, Thursday, 8 August 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link

I believe Crosby is alone among his peers for writing a song Miles Davis covered. Unfortunately, it (“Guinnevere”) happens to be the only out-and-out dull recording of Miles’ electric period.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 August 2019 02:35 (four years ago) link

Nash’s Hollies songs > Crosby’s Byrds songs

I'll do this only with my favourite songs by each band--they wrote others.

Had to check the credits on my four favourite Hollies songs: "I Can't Let Go," "Carrie Anne," "On a Carousel," "Pay You Back with Interest." Nash co-wrote the last three.

So for me they'd be up against "Eight Miles High," "What's Happening?!?!," "Lady Friend," and "Draft Morning," all co-written by Crosby.

If I put the last three Crosby songs against Nash's three, pretty close--I could go either way. But "Eight Miles High" is decisive.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

I don't know enough about electric Miles to call it the only truly dull recording of the period, but it's certainly far, far worse than electric Miles doing Guinnevere ought ever to be.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Thursday, 8 August 2019 05:07 (four years ago) link

(xp) "What's Happening?!?!" and "Lady Friend" were 100% Crosby songs, not co-writes fwiw.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link

And Lady Friend is arguably a top 5 Byrds song.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 10 August 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I goofed on those songwriting credits. "Lady Friend" is fantastic. I think my Top 5 would be "She Don't Care About Time," "Eight Miles High," "Wasn't Born to Follow," "Goin' Back," and either "You Showed Me" or "Here Without You" from Preflyte. "Lady Friend" would be one of the next five for sure.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 August 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

You Showed Me is Clark/McGuinn! Crosby not credited on the Turtles version etc

Οὖτις, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

And Eight Miles High, gimme a break - more Stan Lee syndrome ie puttin his name on shit that was almost entirely the work of others

Οὖτις, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

More like the other way round on "The Notorious Byrd Brothers".

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

Not sure what you mean there.

Goin Back also not a Crosby song + he hated it

Οὖτις, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

I was listing my five favourite Byrds songs period, whether Crosby wrote them or not--should have been clearer. Was just agreeing with NTI that "Lady Friend" was close to the top.

And Eight Miles High, gimme a break

Because you were there in the studio, right? Your dislike of Crosby seems a little intense.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

McGuinn/Hillman finished off "Draft Morning" and put their names on it to Crosby's chagrin.

Crosby wanted "Triad" on the album instead of "Goin' Back".

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

(xxp) I mean McGuinn and Hillman attaching their names to songs that Crosby claims were almost entirely his work.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

(xp)

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

XP By "finished off", I mean added a couple lines and brought in the Firesign Theatre to do sound effects.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

On "Draft Morning".

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

With the usual caveats about Wikipedia, this presents Crosby's contributions to "Eight Miles High" as much more than just putting his name on something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Miles_High#Composition

He contributes what is, for me at least, the song's single most unforgettable line--"rain grey town"; I used that for a chapter title in a book--and he's the guy who plays Coltrane and Shankar for the rest of the band. If you accept McGuinn's version, Crosby contributes more than that to the lyrics.

It looks like the song is primarily Clark's, yes, but Crosby's contributions to the writing and the playing seem crucial to me.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

caught the doc last night. A lot of entertaining bits, as one would expect from someone as alternately cantankerous and reflective as Croz. Didn't raise my estimation of his musical prowess any - he's still definitely the lesser light among his many contemporaries/collaborators imo (McGuinn, Neil, Joni, Nash, etc.) - but he is a compelling subject, and his humility and contrition about his many fuckups come off as genuine, admirable, and, ultimately, tragic. The end where he discusses how no one wants to talk to him or work with him and why is he alive when so many of his friends are dead is some for real, heavy shit.

As always, the omissions were also interesting: no discussion of his brother's suicide, and Gene Clark doesn't get even a mention (he's not even in any of the Byrds clips that flash by). And my wife wanted to know why they didn't mention the Melissa Etheridge sperm donation lol.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

also lol I had never seen that Silent Night performance before, that shit was hilarious

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Brought a ringer into the studio to sing pic.twitter.com/D9o9wkMXPh

— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) December 11, 2019

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

The guy's voice is still in amazing shape, which must be something of a small miracle. Still, betting Isbell is Twitter-blocking him by the weekend...

henry s, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

Good interview.

http://www.gq.com/story/david-crosby-coronavirus-touring-interview

clemenza, Sunday, 15 March 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

Cros gonna Cros.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

great twitter personality

here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

Would love to see Croz outlive all 70s/80s hard rockers

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link

Cros gonna Cros.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:30 PM

*croz

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

Croz has always been a world class dik.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

Honestly it was relatively restrained for Croz to keep it to a simple "meh".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

amusing on twitter for sure, i ride for this album
but a world class asshole whose honestly kinda begging to be #metooed at this point by keeping such a high profile

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

It only got worse from there, when yet another Twitter follower wrote, “Yeah, the guy only CHANGED THE WORLD OF GUITAR. geeezzz dave.” To that one, Crosby wrote, “Hendrix changed the world of guitar. Nobody else really … look I get it … many of you loved Van Halen …. and the one time I met he was nice … and he was talented … meh to me means I don’t care that much … and I don’t … doesn’t mean he wasn’t good, he was but not for me.”

cros otm

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

^^^

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

yeah that doesnt really seem wrong lol ... love evh tho

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

evh changed the guitar, absolutely he did it's absurd to say otherwise

fucking die hippie

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

Before Eddie Van Halen a guitar was a bus

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Croz has burner accounts to kiss his own ass

Hi David. I don’t get on Twitter much but just wanted to let you know I’m really digging your album Here If You Listen. A masterpiece!

— David Crosby (@thedavidcrosby) November 26, 2020

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

lol that's awesome

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link


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