Rolling Metal 2019

I don’t want to know what this “pornogrind” is. I could find out in a second. But my wilful ignorance is problematic, you know the old “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good [people] to do nothing” saying. Well who’s fighting pornogrind on 8ch* ? https://t.co/mt2p6jzVq3

— Sol 🇬🇧 (@SolWpolski) August 5, 2019

Germany-based Cock and Ball Torture,

Speaking of which, did we ever get to the bottom of that crossbow-wielding German medieval sex cult?

Terrible month for grindcore, first Rob Miller now this.

I like this. It is good:

https://www.nocleansinging.com/2019/08/08/an-ncs-premiere-weeping-sores-scars-whispering-secret-tongues/

ooh yeah that is nice

Debemur Morti posted the new Blut Aus Nord on Bandcamp but there are no streaming tracks. This is an uh interesting blurb

Hallucinogen begins a new era for BLUT AUS NORD, ending the cycle of clandestine industrialised dissonance that culminated with previous transmission Deus Salutis Meae and moving skyward into freshly melodic territories of progressive clarity.

Interweaving dreamlike choirs, inimitable harmonic developments, reflective clean guitars, palpable organic drumming and a welcome rock and roll swagger, Hallucinogen is a spacious, emotionally wide-ranging record that finds BLUT AUS NORD more open than ever, full of life and revelling in the element of surprise.

a welcome rock and roll swagger

Hmmm…

stoked

The new Slipknot album is really, really good.

.@suicidalangels
Years of Aggression
(@NoiseArtRecords)

Hellenic thrash reeking in authenticity from Ed Repka art to the dive-bomb solos to the harmonized, ragged riffs. The title implies a best of record but more impressively, it sounds like it too. #TwitterLPReview pic.twitter.com/0m8thWKgRw

— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) August 9, 2019

Everything about this is just so fucking moronic and edgelord-y.

https://www.discogs.com/Gestapo-666-Satanic-Shariah/release/13517132

And to think these dumbfucks got started in 2000 – they're no longer in their teens.

Yeah, if my real name was Cyril I'd change it to k.NkTU too.

"A Rape in the Name of Peace"

saddest thing about that band (other than everything else) is that Noktu is the guy from the once-excellent Celestia and Mortifera and Willy from Mutiilation was an early member. Now Satanic Warmaster dude's a member which is unsurprising.

Noktu also runs the Drakkar label of course.

But yeah this designed-to-offend approach is not very in touch anymore with modern sensibilities. It all goes in cycles, Venom and Slayer were incredibly offensive at the time with authorities banning shows and many an oldschool metalhead loudly proclaiming they'd never support such outrageous bands, then this period where nobody really got offended even by stuff like Impaled Nazarene or Beherit and shock rockers like Marilyn Manson and Rammstein could become legit superstars, and now the cultural pendulum has swung firmly back to where this attitude is beyond the pale.

btw Suicidal Angels are an absolutely fantastic band with not one ounce of originality.

The new Destruction album is out today and it's really good. They've added a second guitar player — like Motörhead, they're meant to be a trio, but they work as a quartet.

There's also a new Pathology album out today, so if you like knuckle-walking death metal as much as I do... [everyone else in the thread looks away in embarrassment]

But yeah this designed-to-offend approach is not very in touch anymore with modern sensibilities.

Maybe I was too young at the time to really pay attention but the shock rock superstars of the 90s weren't overt fascists. Then again, when you're in a band called Gestapo 666 and you put out an album titled Satanic Shariah, it's fair to wonder whether it's just post-post-post-adolescent trolling. I wouldn't be surprised to discover they pulled that combination of words from an outdated algorithm.

Slayer were considered by many metalheads as too fascist in the 80s (Angel of Death etc) and Rammsteins whole imagery, well...

The cultural sensitivities in the 80s were mainly around Christianity, nuclear war, anarchism etc and that has shifted to other areas, and so have the shock-rockers.

Were it not for Phil and Brad, I would never have given the new Slipknot a minute of my time. It's one hell of a bold album.

I had the first Gestapo 666 album at one point and it's as weak musically as you'd expect btw

my initial thought on the new Immortal Bird was "not as good as the debut" but now I'm not so sure. they seem to be fairly unique in injecting a level of emotion (and concision!) into the blackened death racket

question to pomenitul: what is your thinking about fascist/racist metal? you posted a link above to FÖRGJORD which is on Satanic Warmaster's label and Lauri (SW) is a member of Gestapo 666, who you condemn. i have no moral high ground as i listen to bad metal and noise/PE. i'm just curious where the line is for you and others on this board.

A fair question. We briefly discussed it upthread in relation to Deus Mortem and Deathspell Omega, but I don't think I've ever 'formalized' my stance.

I hadn't made the connection between Förgjord and Gestapo 666 as I know very little about the former (or Satanic Warmaster, for that matter). I usually draw the line (i.e. 'I won't be returning to this') at hate speech that targets specific communities (unless it's a mere mise en scène of evil or an assault on organized religion of any kind, in which case I don't care), but the fash needs to be audible in the music itself. That said, there are plenty of notable exceptions, such as the Vikernes-penned, race-baiting 'Over fjell og gjennom torner' from Transilvanian Hunger, an album that is routinely praised as one of the best ever by ILM metalheads. As a general rule, however, I a) won't pay for anything made by a demonstrably neo-nazi contemporary metal musician, even if their political beliefs don't explicitly seep into their records; b) will invariably think less of the music they make, even if it happens to be superlative (to my mind, there is a clear barrier between politics and aesthetics, but that doesn't mean it isn't shot through with holes).

When the (racist) lyrics are easy to make out and in a language I understand, I'm also likelier to feel disgust, Peste Noire and Nécropole being two prime examples. Like Siegbran said, the timeline matters, as well. I wasn't into metal in the late 90s but I probably wouldn't have given much of a fuck back then, not least because I was too young and edgy to care about politics, but also because white supremacy seemed like less of a pressing problem in my neck of the woods. It's also just easier to tune out that dross when it comes from a bygone era as one can safely (albeit not infallibly) assume that most of it was provocative posturing.

Anyway, re: Förgjord, if a band puts out an ostensibly 'unobjectionable' record on a label run by a notorious neo-nazi, I don't have enough of a bone to pick with the band itself, but I won't give them a cent, either.

Speaking of which (?), new Mayhem dropping in October, Daemon.

i appreciate your thoughtful response, pomenitul. yours is a good policy to have when it comes to material support of questionable artists, though it's difficult to know where blanket hatred/misanthropy ends and a targeted philosophy begins. i guess bands like Gestapo 666 make it clear but most don't. i own several Satanic Warmaster CDs and can't glean from the lyrics or art anything that would set its politics apart from, say, Morbid Angel or Slayer. a friend of mine is involved in the Finnish BM scene and says that some of those guys' race attitudes which are, let's say, regressive, are not informed by any direct contact with 'others.' so much of it is posturing and it's probably a waste of time to parse it beyond what it purports to be. that said, the english lyric sheet with the recent Nécropole album is unambiguous in its anti-semitism and disappointing as i love it musically.

Is there a link to anything more about the Pr0f0und L0re dude? I keep seeing vague allegations and insinuations pop up on Twitter and in other corners, but I'm not sure I've ever fully understood what was going on there. It's just surprising that Lingua Ingnota would work with the label if there was a lot there, genuinely curious.

I don’t think there have been any accusations against the label head himself, it’s just that he works with and supports Craig Pillard, who’s a Nazi, and Jef Whitehead, who’s a woman-beating piece of shit, so theoretically, you could find a better label to associate yourself with.

Okay, I knew about those two, didn't know if there was more. I thought he had finally, albeit way too late to matter much, cut ties with Pillard though.

I have now heard the new Opeth album. It's definitely the heaviest of the "prog Opeth" records, but it's not in any way a return to death metal, sorry saddos. It kinda reminds me of present-day Uriah Heep at times, though, which is a very good thing (if you haven't heard the last 3-4 Heep albums, you're missing out). Also, fair warning, there's one track with scat singing at the end.

I haven't listened to the English-language version yet, btw, only the Swedish one (which is the one Åkerfeldt prefers).

It's quickly become my favourite of Opeth's albums from this decade.

Yeah, after one listen I'd rank them In Cauda Venenum > Pale Communion > Sorceress > Heritage. (I like them all, of course.)

Well now I'm suitably excited for the Opeth.

I haven't listened to any of their albums post-Blackwater Park, so this should be interesting.

Tomb Mold just killed it at Psycho Las Vegas. Sweet young kids withban oppressive sound.

Good goddamn death metal from California

https://reek-of-putrescine.bandcamp.com/album/the-one-reborn

Avowedly antifascist as well.

a friend of mine is involved in the Finnish BM scene and says that some of those guys' race attitudes which are, let's say, regressive, are not informed by any direct contact with 'others.'

was just in helsinki and stopped into a BM shop (kvlt) and I was 100% expecting them to stock some sketchy records from the minimal research I had done beforehand but was def taken back by the very open display of swastika, anti-islam, etc. patches lovingly arranged next to a large finnish flag. pretty much right in your face when you walk into a tiny shop. charming!

lol at the tasteful (black) patio furniture in front of nazi hot topic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpbS9_TXgAAXvJX.jpg

Much of Eastern Europe (and Finland, an ex-Russian Grand Duchy, sort of counts) takes 'both-siding' to the next level: due to the pervasive influence communist Russia has exerted on its neighbours throughout much of the 20th century, there's a tendency not only to argue that fascism was ultimately just as bad but also, more often than not, to argue that it has something positive to teach us. Putin's Russia is on board with it as well, provided it remains an expression of 'patriotism'. Given how ethnically and culturally homogenous Finland is (and American 14 worders speak of it with infinite longing), there's unfortunately nothing surprising about this.

Profound Lore update: They've just released the new Diocletian album. Diocletian's main dude is a hardcore racist and general piece of shit.

Kinda like emperor Diocletian

Metal moodz unto fathomless infinity:

https://orisonwrethe.bandcamp.com

Courtesy of the Dutch BM scene that spawned Turia, Iskandr, Nusquama, etc.:

https://amorfatiproductions.bandcamp.com/album/imperial-cult-spasm-of-light

There's a new Facelift Deformation album, Cybernetic Organism Atrocities, out this week. They've got a live drummer now!

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1131995627_10.jpg

https://realityfaderecords.bandcamp.com/album/cybernetic-organism-atrocities

I like the Witch Vomit

It's fucking great.

Even the new Entombed AD is fun

The new Sacred Reich is good but the Witch Vomit is the only thing i want to listen to.

Also gott good call on the Putrescine

Are the left/right guitars being out of tune an aesthetic choice?

Doesn't matter. It rocks

Also I like the new Cerebral Rot. The rhythm guitar isn't exactly setting the world on fire, but the leads are reverb drenched nightmares that feel like they are played by the Loch Ness Monster