Is there anything the Labour Party can do to win the next election?

I'm talking about various cartoonists that have already started caricaturing Miliband as a monkey, although that seems to have started within the last couple of weeks.

He reminds me of the guy who did the Professor sketches in Vision On (ask your dad etc.).

Mandelson and Hoon back? Come on, this is ridiculous. I guess this is what happens when you only promote yes-men for 10 years - all the new voices get marginalised.

That's presupposing the existence of new voices.

I know, but there has to be some, surely? That's what's so disheartening about the LP at the moment - who could run it better than it is at the moment? And there's nobody of any talent in the wings.

Candidacy only went to yes men in the first place. I doubt there are many inspirational new voices in (Labour) Parliament at all.

PROFESSOR PAT PENDING?

(looks nowt like him, but)

Really they're all just going into politics now as a career option rather than anything to do with conviction. Behave nicely, don't talk out of turn and you might get to be a PPS in 30 years' time laddie. They've got mortgages, student loans and credit cards to pay off so they're not in a position to argue, not that the notion of arguing would ever occur to them.

The ballot box will wipe a lot of them out anyway - Labour could be forced into a callow shadow cabinet with the occasional big hitter.

http://www.its-prof-again.co.uk/

Is there anything in this world that *doesn't* have it's own website?

Sydney Devine.

A callow cabinet?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1545000/images/_1549964_callow150.jpg

With Mandy and Draper back beating the drum for Labour it's full steam ahead to a fourth term!

...for the Tories within the last three decades...

Yeah, but Mandelson has previous experience at the DTI and in that capacity was surprisingly well thought of, both inside and outside the department.

(At least according to my partner, who was receiving a lot of DTI assistance while starting up his biotech business at the time. There was no small amount of dismay at the policy vacuum following PM's resignation, as he was providing strong tactical leadership on "knowledge-based economy" initiatives.)

Mandy spoke well to Paxman on the Econocalypse the other night.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/oct/17/davidcameron-politicalnews

let's hope this economic thingy can do for brown what it has done for obama

I hate David Cameron.

So do I.

Can you vote, in the UK?

I don't think so, but maybe if I'm here a little longer. I hate most the way he's talked of as having some kind of common touch that Brown lacks, yet they never put him in any situations where he might prove this. The one time I saw him speaking to "ordinary people" was on a BBC Newsbeat video where young people asked him questions, and he seemed completely aloof and freakish next to them.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/18/davidcameron-conservatives

Holy crap, who saw this coming?

Crikey, this is getting dangerously close to socialism.

We won't be getting Tom Jones or Phil Collins back then.

50 quid on Campbell in car crash/outed as paedo/polonium milkshake before 2009.

Darling, rather.

HAVE YOUR SAY

The economy will go back to the dark days of the 1970s - taxing the rich is such a stupid idea

Matt, Manchester

or "Diamond", as KSilk had him on "Jungle" yesterday.

(xpost)

We are all Joe the Plumber.

Speak for yourself pal. I'm more Joe the Pesci myself.

Not me, I'm Joe le Taxi.

And now I'm Lord the Custos.

Joe the Swash is the new Joe the Plumber.

0.5% increase in NI from 2011

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1095057/Gordon-Brown-denies-February-election-rumours-ministers-claim-recession-worst-ever.html

I still don't think they'd win, but I'd say this is the best chance they've got. However, given that Brown bottled it big time last October, it'd be pretty perverse of him to roll the dice now.

frankly they've got too much on their plate to hold an election right now. i think they'll wait for the green shoots of recovery of early 2010, should there be any.

there's a weird anti-Brown rant that's been posted up on the v large billboard spaces underneath the old railway bridge by the top of Shoreditch High St.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/doctorow/3109564177/

I love the Daily Mail pic of Tessa in prayer:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/bobbysixer/tessa.jpg

"We’ve had it up to here with a government that says we can go on treating people like shit."

Labour's @BarryGardiner breaks down over the cost of living crisis @eiecampaign pic.twitter.com/YqseSSC1HE

— PoliticsJOE (@PoliticsJOE_UK) August 18, 2022

Barry Gardiner MP supports the Enough is Enough campaign.

DJ Martian otm - the prophetic power of systems thinking!

This is the man to save Labour: John McDonnell

― djmartian, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:11 (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

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Bingo

Sadder answer, the plan is to do nothing and rely on winning the battle of apathy in the wasteland of 2024

it's more like "cisterns thinking" with Kieth, that's where he usually hides his flask of single malt

"I know Owen, I like Owen, I'm sorry Owen... I'm not focused on Owen, I'm focused intently on winning the next general election"@Keir_Starmer reacts to being called a "professional political conman" by @OwenJones84.@theJeremyVine | #JeremyVine pic.twitter.com/kuNA15yF1i

— Jeremy Vine On 5 (@JeremyVineOn5) August 31, 2022

"I like Owen"

An odd thing here is that KS puts OJ down by saying he was a "cheerleader" for Labour's 2019 election campaign.

KS, unlike OJ, was literally on the platform for the launch of Labour's 2019 election campaign. (I, unusually, was there!)

just found out that the owner of ex-alpaca Geronimo genuinely made a graphic for today where she called him "The Peoples Alpaca" pic.twitter.com/b7Wteunce0

— Alice Lia Maro (@slimelia) August 31, 2022

next he'll be saying he actually tried to save Geronimo

KS saved geronimo from having to watch the world fall into ghastly ruin