The August 2019 US Politics Thread is dumb (stupid}

not least the sinisiter LOVERS

beginning to look like James Comey might actually be stupider than Trump

Mr. Hamburglar, please take a stand against stealing hamburgers. pic.twitter.com/C5hhZKNl4K

— Scott Conroy (@ScottFConroy) August 5, 2019

China confirms it is suspending agricultural product purchases in response to Trump's new tariffs

https://fm-static.cnbc.com/awsmedia/chart/2019/7/5/image%20(5).1565046032353.png

markets are taking this totally normal little trade war well

indeed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBT-y3aUwAAJ_eo.jpg:small

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How is this all playing with the alt-right gaming chuds?

If Trump or another republican politician says something they don't like, they just doublethink the blame onto "the media" that reported it.

I posted this in the AOC thread as well, but this is a pretty amazing clip. She burns through more in two minutes than MSNBC can in a whole evening of panel discussions.

‘I don’t want to hear the question ‘is this president racist?’ anymore. He is.’ — @AOC held nothing back while condemning Trump for using the language of white supremacy pic.twitter.com/3rWCkdYq6n

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) August 6, 2019

These are rich people who maxed out donations to our racist, asshole president, I know your schtick is to rush to defend power but scumbag multimillionaires are the backbone of the GOP (not just “famous billionaires”) naming & shaming those who need good PR is the least we can do https://t.co/PVr8cA7Tp4

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) August 6, 2019

It's public information, the pushback on Castro is ridiculous.

good morning!

you know it's serious when Joy Fucking Reid is shaming Maggie Haberman:

What am I missing? This is public information via the FEC. Also, the NYT has done these stories disclosing donors to presidential candidates, like this one: https://t.co/bCbA3kfaCr

— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) August 7, 2019

that aoc clip is powerful, holy shit

I feel like the pushback against NYT and the rest of the media has been more intense this time around. From O'Rourke just going 'Members of the press: What the fuck?' to the backlash to the NYT Unity headline to this. Might be people think the rules of political discourse are changing when shooters are literally using Trumps rhetoric in manifestoes before mass murder, but a lot of the media wants business to go on as usual.

NYT definitely seemed to get a lot of heat from that headline

The tweets from politicians in the story from The Guardian were pretty good: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/aug/06/new-york-times-front-page-headline-changed It's a mix of the headline just being wrong, and being indefensible, and being cowardly.

AOC: Love Bigger 2020

NYT cowardly “centrist” nonsense shockah

I know we've discussed this already but it's especially irritating how the primary knock on AOC from the right is that she's an airhead or has no idea what she's talking about; practically every old dumb blonde joke has been re-appropriated to be about AOC on Facebook boomer pages. Then again literally all these people do is project so I guess it makes sense

bravo to Castro. It's about time Dems play dirty, and I use the term loosely because this is legal.

This is... fun? Is fun the word?

https://splinternews.com/heres-how-to-find-out-who-donated-thousands-to-trump-in-1837027340

Re: centrist media, I've been very pleasantly surprised at how Esquire has been calling out Trump. For a magazine that highlights $3K sweaters and $10K watches, they could have avoided alienating their rich right-wing readers.

lots of rich ppl think trump is an embarrassment iirc

This is... fun? Is fun the word?

kinda nice, now I know of a few local businesses I'll never shop at again

yeah but just cuz bad manners xp

Only nine people in my town of over 130,000 have ever donated to Trump.

404 error. either lots of people are looking this stuff up or it's TEH DEEP STAET

it should work if you search by committee rather than candidate.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/aug/07/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-fox-news-hoax

“If you were to assemble a list, a hierarchy of concerns, problems this country has, where would white supremacy be on the list? Right up there with Russia probably. It’s actually not a real problem in America,” Carlson told his audience on Tuesday night.

Claiming that white supremacy issue was being used by Democrats as a political tool, Carlson continued: “This is a hoax. Just like the Russia hoax, it’s a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power.”

Carlson also claimed all the white supremacists in America could fit inside a football stadium before repeating his belief that white supremacy in the US is a non-existent problem. He went on to insist that he’s “never met anybody – not one person – who ascribes to white supremacy”.

makes you think!

I often have trouble estimating the 'disingenuous/dumbfuck' ratio with people like this. Certainly hefty portions of both.

Carlson also claimed all the white supremacists in America could fit inside a football stadium

typically college and pro football stadiums hold like 50K+ people, up to 80 or 100K right?

uh

I think it's safe to assume the former in Carlson's case but it's a mixture of both when it comes to his audience.

xp

'White supremacy is a hoax,' says prominent steward of white supremacy.

I don't know if it's still possible (or if it ever was, really) to persuasively disentangle Fox News from Infowars.

'White supremacy is a hoax,' says prominent steward of white supremacy.

cf: "there's no such thing as the mafia"

carlson doesn't believe that white supremacy is a problem in america cause he believes it's the solution

I propose putting all the white supremacists in a football stadium, playing the national anthem on a loop, locking the doors, and forcing them to stand until they fall down

where would white supremacy be on the list?

way way wayyyyyyy below Antifa amirite Tucky

If you were to assemble a list, a hierarchy of concerns, problems this country has....a manifesto if you will...

shorter fucker carlson: the problem is definitely not white supremacy. the problem is all of these non-white people that we don't want in our country because we don't think they're as good as true americans, you know, the "all-american" kind of people, most often white

What a graphic. Wowsers. (And the grey box that is Wyoming is extraordinary.) https://t.co/Su0TllURBx

— Andrew Wilson (@AJWTheology) August 7, 2019

WV - where even the non-gun-owning people are cool with the NRA

all 10 of them

Just like the way they categorize what a racist is, they're only willing to see the caricatures of the group as the problem. Not to throw around fallacy names, but it's kind of a no true scotsman thing. If he insists that liberals are saying we have a white supremacist problem, but to him a white supremacist is defined narrowly as literally a skinhead with a swastika tattoo on their forehead, then yeah that's one way to misrepresent the argument. Same way racism is narrowly defined as separate water fountains and the KKK.

It's easier to justify pernicious behavior when you pretend that its strictest definition is saddled with a bunch of bogus modifiers that let you off the hook.

well, yeah...look at how much they bristled at the concentration camp label

If you were to lock all the white supremacists in a stadium would they bond or turn on each other?
Would hope for a permanent elimination competition.

very fine supremacists on both sides

“I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate,” President Trump tells reporters, adding that is “whether it’s white supremacy, or any other kind of supremacy.”

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) August 7, 2019