PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

at the moment you can get 2 packs of frozen L McCartney 1/4lb mozzarella burgers for a quid. They make very nice cheeseburgers and aren't half bad at all for soylent green based burgers.

i'm sure they've ran out of the eponymous ingredient by now

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/future/images/a/ad/Infant_hybrid.png/revision/latest?cb=20140727140437

spud-u-dislike

xps yeah, supermarket wine was the thing that horrified us price-wise last time we were over; brands in the £6-7 range here were €11+. of course after Brexit we'll long for 2018 Irish wine prices...

I've never quite worked out Irish pay rates. an inlaw was earning 45k in her 1st entry-level admin job in Dublin several years back which made us go ???* but that side of the family always seems to land on its feet and be oblivious to their good fortune so I hesitate to assume it's representative

* our confusion was that this sounded like a lot, just to clarify, seeing as we had a conversation at cross-purposes with step-MIL along similar lines at one point, where we expressed surprise at someone (else)'s salary bcz it sounded high to us and she agreed with our surprise then said "that's terrible, how can anyone live on that?" uh... never mind

That's not exactly typical. Around 28k would be the norm

xxp

I wasn't allowed to call Andrew Bridgen the MP for North West Bullshitshire in the paper. But I can here...https://t.co/vZ88VB5qR6 pic.twitter.com/d99t26WIP4

— Matt Chorley (@MattChorley) November 17, 2018

I was thinking perhaps Walmart's new dissolution of holidays/overtime/bank holiday pay contracts were something they had planned to roll out in a post Brexit UK. Then they thought wtf just roll it out anyway.

"The new contract cuts holiday entitlement, slashes bank holiday and night shift pay, and introduces an any time, any place, anywhere culture which risks a hugely damaging impact on the predominately part time, low paid, female workforce, who need flexibility that works for them.

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Where are you reading this, calz?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/thousands-asda-workers-told-sign-16699823

the walton family are remarkably evil bastards

I missed this:

https://www.euronews.com/2019/07/26/residents-in-boris-johnson-s-ancestral-turkish-village-proud-of-his-election-as-uk-pm

Conversely, the inhabitants of Kallstadt deserve credit for having expressed embarrassment at Trump's election.

Yeah, Imagine being worth $170 billion and thinking "How can I get more?" xp

xp otfm.

I've written to Boris Johnson calling on him to reconsider the fitness of Sajid Javid to serve in the role of Chancellor pic.twitter.com/uEKqltCERQ

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) August 5, 2019

xp extremely greedy when I don’t recall that they ever withdrew from workfare placements

mcdonnell bringing the fire as usual

I've got an old friend who works at Asda. When he was a zero hours delivery driver for them they were the lousiest set of bastards he'd ever worked for. Then he got an unlikely promotion to a low level salaried position organising the drivers. He must have drank a fair bit of own brand kool-aid because since then he was taking a sadistic narc's relish in springing a driver he suspected of being a heroin addict with a surprise drug test. i told him he was a prick and as an ex-heroin addict himself he could have took a more constructive approach to the poor bastard. Anyway I texted him something about this and unsurprisingly he hasn't answered me yet. Fucking arsehole!

Downing Street confirms that £1bn of the £1.8bn 'new' money for the NHS is not in fact new at all. They're now trying to work out where the other £800 million came from. That may not be new either.

— oliver wright (@oliver_wright) August 5, 2019

🤡

contempt = palpable

M Hancock is such a pathetic simpering piece of shit, when this boris ship goes down, which won't take long by current indications, he will go back to the hideous obscurity he came from. I think it was the French religious icon painter Rouault who I first heard the expression "beautiful obscurity" from. This doesn't apply to ambitious little creepazoids like Hancock who will literally do anything to further his career.

just catching up with Today i take it? :)

not heard that yet, but from what I've read he's still trying to say this £1.8 bn is all new money ..

some more bad news for the economy’s debit column. funny can’t bring to mind many stories like this from the credit column, despite our ongoing “jobs miracle”

Tesco announces 4,500 job cuts across stores nationwide https://t.co/VMGYmWqz8F

— Charlotte Hughes. The Poor Side Of life (@charlotteh71) August 5, 2019

No10: It's "new money"

Whitehall source:
- Up to £1bn comes from surplus money NHS already generated, now re-allocated. Such surpluses often re-allocated in past.
- £800m not allocated yet - that'll happen in the "Autumn" (prob spending review)

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Was listening to postman pat talking about his illustrious new Labour career. Talk about an absolute dearth of mystery wrapped up in a Dogshit sandwich.

He thinks his real legacy is his book because 500000 sorry arsed people bought it. Harrumph what a class a cunt

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/06/mps-thwart-boris-johnson-no-deal

lol we're all gunna die
So a no-deal exit has been Boris Johnson's plan from the very start, right? I'm not seeing enough media types saying that, in case I missed something. He and his cabal have no intention of trying to leave the EU with an exit deal in place as far as I can tell, and it's all going swimmingly for them right now. See you in Hell!

Brexit causing Toynbee and co to lose their minds again and doing fantasy politics unity government XI's from those that arguably got us here in the first place. Whose name has come out the centrist tombola this time? Margaret fucking Beckett, we are saved.

yeah i read this one today

http://www.democraticaudit.com/2019/08/05/is-it-too-late-to-stop-a-no-deal-brexit/

which ought to conclude "lol we're all gonna die" but instead pretends to some kind of deluded optimism that the actual content ruthlessly squashes

xp they’d rather wank themselves to death over their ~*~*~fantasy cabinet of all the talents*~*~* than acknowledge that the nice people they go drinking with might be cavalier about food and medicine shortages.

the situation is nicely poised now tho so that Corbyn can take the entire blame for no deal when he fails to step down for compromise prime minister *checks notes* Anna Soubry????

British politics needs to be understood, first, as a conspiracy to ensure that the Conservative Party - while sometimes unpopular - is always legitimate.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 10, 2019

A lot of these "can no deal be stopped?!?" pieces seem to leap into the wildest "the Queen could..." realms and skip over the prosaic stuff.

The times are risky but I don't think it's that hard to see how it could be averted. For parliament to prevent No Deal (again) they'd need to move the leave day in UK legislation and then get the EU to approve an extension on their part too (it doesn't have to be the PM who seeks it necessarily). The EU might rightly ask to what end, and that might mean passing a VONC to justify another extension but with a majority of 1 this will seem possible by October.

If the situation is ultimately still that Johnson needs an election a) with Brexit still undefined and b) that appears to be "forced on him by anti-democratic politicians" then this exactly how he'd want to play it out anyway, right? No Deal averted, election called, Boris with clean hands, people vs politicians campaign ahead.

the Graun piece sets out the legislative hoops fairly clearly I think, every scenario requires a degree of coordination and determination not previously demonstrated by the anti no deal MPs

is there a reason that is not dumb for calling the backstop "undemocratic"? I assume no but I want to treat The British Government with the utmost respect

the not dumb reason is that if you repeat a soundbite for not very long the national media will start to echo chamber it and then a significant chunk of what you hope is your base will believe it

so this is just a "Brawndo's got what plants crave" thing, cool

I'm sure plenty of people that know nothing about Ireland or the GFA will mindlessly parrot undemocratic backstop, hell they've probably even got an ipa named after it in their subsidised bar.

The Graun piece is of the same pattern though: so keen to get to discussing the never-gonna-happen Queen stuff it skips the mundane options. Like amending the withdrawal act rather than repealing it.

It also discounts the politics. Yes many of the options are unreasonably difficult starting from today, but they all play off against one another: if you try and redo Cooper-Letwin for instance and Johnson just decides to ignore it, that strengthens your hand for attempting more drastic interventions because it becomes clear that he’s acting kamikaze.

there is an actual answer and it's that the EU has to agree to its termination which of course means that the UK is being crushed under the heel of the unelected etc

(xpost)

The guy who wrote the Guardian piece is a constitutional expert, I believe, i.e. not one their usual remoaner clowns.

He is, which explains the focus on what could theoretically happen, rather than what is likely to.

the backstop is undemocratic because fifty odd unionists havent agreed to it

ah ok Tracer Hand, that makes more sense. the EU wasn't elected by the UK populace, so any act that requires collaboration with the EU is undemocratic.

can't wait to see a democratic trade deal with the USA!

usual remoaner clowns

We're using this term unironically now?

with all due respect i would suggest that any MP not currently convinced that Johnson has set the controls for the heart of The Sun may not be temperamentally ready for whatever struggle lies ahead

yeah the piece ends up at the usual West Wing fanfic but i suspect this is because of the slow awful realisation that all of the parliamentary alternatives are at best uncharted territory and at worst not gonna happen

We've been doing that for a while, keep up there, pom. (xp)