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And maybe I'm reading too much (and too charitably) into this, but I've always felt like the closing quip 'There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark' is a potentially sensitive take on the overarching theme of mental illness (lunacy having both a figurative and etymological meaning throughout), i.e. the demarcation between madness and non-madness, Syd-led Floyd and Syd-less Floyd, etc., isn't as watertight as it appears.

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:51 (six months ago) link

It's much more than about just playing "Interstellar Overdrive" or even "Astronomy Domine" (the first space rock song!) occasionally. Vocals and harmonies (Barrett/Wright) and Syd's unorthodox chord sequences and guitar playing are very influential on the Syd-less band.

I haven't watched or read any interviews with them wherein they reminisce about Syd, though…

Sometimes it seems like they talk about little else! But that could be just because that's the part of their history I find most interesting so seek out.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:18 (six months ago) link

Good to know! I forgot to mention that I haven't looked up any interviews with them, period. A rabbit hole awaits…

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:21 (six months ago) link

(Btw, I agree with you re: vocals, harmonies, chord sequences, guitar playing, etc.).

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:23 (six months ago) link

i mean, it's not the band's fault that their post-syd stuff was so much more famous than syd's actual stuff. well i mean it is the band's "fault" in that they were the ones who went on to make classic and mega-selling records that have had far more impact on the public psyche than syd's stuff has, and i know there are a lot of syd fans who sort of resent them for that, but i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 16:55 (six months ago) link

I've seen Wright looking really quite haunted when recalling Syd in documentaries, esp when re-telling the story where they began just blipping over picking him up to take him to gigs.

MaresNest, Sunday, 4 August 2019 17:16 (six months ago) link

Speaking of Wright, a great analysis from Samuel Andreyev!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLEwuo5R-tQ

timellison, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:04 (six months ago) link

i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.

― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:55 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

from whatever i've read it seemed like gilmour in particular seemed to really go out of his way to facilitate syd's solo career as much as anyone could at that point

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:07 (six months ago) link

Yes, I think Gilmour really made the effort - the others seem to have been variously freaked out by the whole experience - but then he was playing and singing Syd's songs and (I think) lived across the street from him.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:12 (six months ago) link

(many xposts) Missing the 1966 version of “Interstellar Overdrive” and “Nick’s Boogie”

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:23 (six months ago) link

I guess each of those could take up a side and be album 1 of a double. I’ve never even heard them! Which does not rule.

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 22:36 (six months ago) link

it's nice of andreyev to do, but i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes. i think i'll check out his video on bartok's fourth string quartet instead.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 23:43 (six months ago) link

The best part of it for me is in the middle where he plays through it section by section on piano. Guy rules.

timellison, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:08 (six months ago) link

i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes

wow, you've sold out

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:10 (six months ago) link

wow, you've sold out

― mookieproof

you knew it would happen one day

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:30 (six months ago) link

you’ve changed, man

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 August 2019 01:10 (six months ago) link

can anything possibly rule more than van morrison singing the comfortably numb chorus at the berlin wall in 1990

i fucking doubt it

mookieproof, Sunday, 25 August 2019 04:26 (six months ago) link

Not Victor Borges then.

Mark G, Sunday, 25 August 2019 13:47 (six months ago) link

Robert Wyatt doing the "Hello..." bit.

dan selzer, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:23 (six months ago) link

LATER PINK FLOYD RULES

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:56 (six months ago) link

That set is an abomination

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:26 (six months ago) link

I still have yet to hear a note of Endless River.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:49 (six months ago) link

I saw that 1987 tour — I was 15, maybe 16 — and it was like going to a Laser Floyd show or to see a cover band. I don't even remember what the album (Lapse) sounded like, and have never heard Division Bell or Endless River, never mind the live albums.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:23 (six months ago) link

the finalized track listing of that box is awfully disappointing. No Big Spliff, no Carerra Panamerica (which i'd heard wasn't making it because Gilmour doesn't like it, but still), no Peace At Last (which I hear got pulled at the last minute). All of that would maybe be ok if they didn't want $500 for this. I don't see it selling well, and it'll just make the vaguely curious resort to piracy.

akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:57 (six months ago) link

and by that I mean: I will definitely download the MLOR remix. I'm sure that's vastly improved (I don't dislike that album as much as others do). The rest doesn't hold a huge amount of interest to me.

akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:59 (six months ago) link

peace at last = i meant 'peace be with you'

akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:59 (six months ago) link

The most irrationally overpriced boxed set in history. They continue to innovate.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:20 (six months ago) link

Ahoy matey, etc.

pomenitul, Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:21 (six months ago) link

And also with you.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:26 (six months ago) link

i'm like the only person who likes the endless river
it's like classic rock ambient

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:34 (six months ago) link

it's like classic rock ambient


it rules

Brad C., Thursday, 29 August 2019 23:39 (six months ago) link

Pink Floyd's Pink Floyd Announces New Project That Excites Fans Extremely

https://classicrockworld.org/pink-floydspink-floyd-announces-new-project-that-excites-fans-extremely/

Mark G, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:15 (five months ago) link

Really glad Endless River came up here because I too hadn't heard it (except the single which is meh) and it's kinda great. According to wiki Andy Gill called it "faux-psychedelic dinner-party muzak". Like that was a bad thing?

Ned Trifle X, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:49 (five months ago) link

I am moderately excited

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:18 (five months ago) link

Here I was thinking that they had replaced David Gilmour with Nuno Bettencourt.

☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:35 (five months ago) link

http://www.markprindle.com/gilmour.htm#metallic

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:52 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Biding My Time" RULES

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 3 October 2019 14:16 (four months ago) link

John Lennon, Jesus Christ, Chief Joseph and... the Texas flag.

I'd probably wear that shirt if I hung out in a room like that too.

pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:55 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

rather than send the s-k thread further off-topic: in what ways, by the late 70s, was mason 'contributing' more than wright?

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:36 (three months ago) link

The nature of their contributions was always different. I think with Mason, he could be relied on to come up with the appropriate parts, and maybe make an arrangement suggestion here or there, or bring in sound effects. Whereas with Wright, he'd co-written significant, and defining, parts of DSOTM and WYWH, but was no longer coming up with anything at all. They apparently expected more from him than comping along with the chord changes.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:01 (three months ago) link

Didn't he have some drug issues around that time?

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:39 (three months ago) link

There's a good story in the Mark Blake bio about producer credits on The Wall. Previous albums had always said "produced by Pink Floyd", although neither Mason nor Wright had ever done any actual production work. This time Waters wanted the producer credits to say Ezrin/Waters/Gilmour. Mason agreed to this but Wright wanted a producer credit and so sat around in the studio from morning to night saying things like "I don't like that" in the belief that this showed he was co-producing the record. Needless to say, he didn't get the credit.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:52 (three months ago) link

Mason agreed to this but Wright wanted a producer credit and so sat around in the studio from morning to night saying things like "I don't like that" in the belief that this showed he was co-producing the record.

lol this rules

tylerw, Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:00 (three months ago) link

Credits should've read "Produced by Ezrin/Waters/Gilmour. Not liked by Wright."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:15 (three months ago) link

"Special thanks from the band to Rick Wright."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:42 (three months ago) link

Sounds like Wright wasted the hours in an offhand way

badg, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:31 (three months ago) link

Sounds like Pink Floyd had too many dicks to make room for a pianist.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:34 (three months ago) link

I mean, he probably wasn't wrong?

pplains, Saturday, 23 November 2019 01:25 (three months ago) link


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