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Piper is kind of sui generis. Such a huge soft spot for that record but I have a hard time evaluating it within the context of their catalogue; it was a different band.

yeah it really has so little to do with what they became, it's probably best compared to like SF Sorrow or Os Mutantes

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:41 (one month ago) link

I've got to say disagree with the idea that Piper had little to do with what they became. I think its influence lingered at least up until, but not including, DSOTM.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:54 (one month ago) link

Part of it? Maybe more "Interstellar Overdrive" than "The Gnome" or "Bike," although I think their pastoralism has roots in Syd too (say, "The Scarecrow").

timellison, Sunday, 4 August 2019 03:13 (one month ago) link

The direct influence certainly lingered - they were doing "Interstellar Overdrive" in concert through the end of 1970 and "Set the Controls" (a Syd-era composition) through '73 - but the shadow stuck around for the rest of their career. Which is maybe a lot of the issue a lot of people have with Syd's relationship with the band; he deserves to be known as more than a shadow.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:12 (one month ago) link

Wish You Were Here is all about Syd, after all. I never got the sense that Floyd Mk. II wanted him to be forgotten, the blame lies elsewhere.

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:15 (one month ago) link

It's not at all about him being forgotten, it's about how he's remembered... which is as a Poor Tragic Loony rather than for his actual songs. As opposed to, say, someone like Brian Wilson, who is certainly well known as a Poor Tragic Loony, but not to the extent that his songs are.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:26 (one month ago) link

For the band members themselves, witnessing Syd's progressive loss of self from up close must have been a traumatizing experience so I get why they decided to underscore that facet of the Madcap in their lyrics ('And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes…'). I haven't watched or read any interviews with them wherein they reminisce about Syd, though…

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:33 (one month ago) link

And maybe I'm reading too much (and too charitably) into this, but I've always felt like the closing quip 'There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark' is a potentially sensitive take on the overarching theme of mental illness (lunacy having both a figurative and etymological meaning throughout), i.e. the demarcation between madness and non-madness, Syd-led Floyd and Syd-less Floyd, etc., isn't as watertight as it appears.

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:51 (one month ago) link

It's much more than about just playing "Interstellar Overdrive" or even "Astronomy Domine" (the first space rock song!) occasionally. Vocals and harmonies (Barrett/Wright) and Syd's unorthodox chord sequences and guitar playing are very influential on the Syd-less band.

I haven't watched or read any interviews with them wherein they reminisce about Syd, though…

Sometimes it seems like they talk about little else! But that could be just because that's the part of their history I find most interesting so seek out.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:18 (one month ago) link

Good to know! I forgot to mention that I haven't looked up any interviews with them, period. A rabbit hole awaits…

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:21 (one month ago) link

(Btw, I agree with you re: vocals, harmonies, chord sequences, guitar playing, etc.).

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:23 (one month ago) link

i mean, it's not the band's fault that their post-syd stuff was so much more famous than syd's actual stuff. well i mean it is the band's "fault" in that they were the ones who went on to make classic and mega-selling records that have had far more impact on the public psyche than syd's stuff has, and i know there are a lot of syd fans who sort of resent them for that, but i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 16:55 (one month ago) link

I've seen Wright looking really quite haunted when recalling Syd in documentaries, esp when re-telling the story where they began just blipping over picking him up to take him to gigs.

MaresNest, Sunday, 4 August 2019 17:16 (one month ago) link

Speaking of Wright, a great analysis from Samuel Andreyev!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLEwuo5R-tQ

timellison, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:04 (one month ago) link

i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.

― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:55 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

from whatever i've read it seemed like gilmour in particular seemed to really go out of his way to facilitate syd's solo career as much as anyone could at that point

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:07 (one month ago) link

Yes, I think Gilmour really made the effort - the others seem to have been variously freaked out by the whole experience - but then he was playing and singing Syd's songs and (I think) lived across the street from him.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:12 (one month ago) link

(many xposts) Missing the 1966 version of “Interstellar Overdrive” and “Nick’s Boogie”

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:23 (one month ago) link

I guess each of those could take up a side and be album 1 of a double. I’ve never even heard them! Which does not rule.

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 22:36 (one month ago) link

it's nice of andreyev to do, but i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes. i think i'll check out his video on bartok's fourth string quartet instead.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 23:43 (one month ago) link

The best part of it for me is in the middle where he plays through it section by section on piano. Guy rules.

timellison, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:08 (one month ago) link

i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes

wow, you've sold out

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:10 (one month ago) link

wow, you've sold out

― mookieproof

you knew it would happen one day

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:30 (one month ago) link

you’ve changed, man

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 August 2019 01:10 (one month ago) link

can anything possibly rule more than van morrison singing the comfortably numb chorus at the berlin wall in 1990

i fucking doubt it

mookieproof, Sunday, 25 August 2019 04:26 (three weeks ago) link

Not Victor Borges then.

Mark G, Sunday, 25 August 2019 13:47 (three weeks ago) link

Robert Wyatt doing the "Hello..." bit.

dan selzer, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:23 (three weeks ago) link

LATER PINK FLOYD RULES

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:56 (three weeks ago) link

That set is an abomination

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:26 (three weeks ago) link

I still have yet to hear a note of Endless River.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:49 (three weeks ago) link

I saw that 1987 tour — I was 15, maybe 16 — and it was like going to a Laser Floyd show or to see a cover band. I don't even remember what the album (Lapse) sounded like, and have never heard Division Bell or Endless River, never mind the live albums.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:23 (three weeks ago) link

the finalized track listing of that box is awfully disappointing. No Big Spliff, no Carerra Panamerica (which i'd heard wasn't making it because Gilmour doesn't like it, but still), no Peace At Last (which I hear got pulled at the last minute). All of that would maybe be ok if they didn't want $500 for this. I don't see it selling well, and it'll just make the vaguely curious resort to piracy.

akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:57 (three weeks ago) link

and by that I mean: I will definitely download the MLOR remix. I'm sure that's vastly improved (I don't dislike that album as much as others do). The rest doesn't hold a huge amount of interest to me.

akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:59 (three weeks ago) link

peace at last = i meant 'peace be with you'

akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:59 (three weeks ago) link

The most irrationally overpriced boxed set in history. They continue to innovate.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:20 (three weeks ago) link

Ahoy matey, etc.

pomenitul, Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:21 (three weeks ago) link

And also with you.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:26 (three weeks ago) link

i'm like the only person who likes the endless river
it's like classic rock ambient

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:34 (three weeks ago) link

it's like classic rock ambient


it rules

Brad C., Thursday, 29 August 2019 23:39 (three weeks ago) link

Pink Floyd's Pink Floyd Announces New Project That Excites Fans Extremely

https://classicrockworld.org/pink-floydspink-floyd-announces-new-project-that-excites-fans-extremely/

Mark G, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:15 (one week ago) link

Really glad Endless River came up here because I too hadn't heard it (except the single which is meh) and it's kinda great. According to wiki Andy Gill called it "faux-psychedelic dinner-party muzak". Like that was a bad thing?

Ned Trifle X, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:49 (one week ago) link

I am moderately excited

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:18 (one week ago) link

Here I was thinking that they had replaced David Gilmour with Nuno Bettencourt.

☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:35 (one week ago) link

http://www.markprindle.com/gilmour.htm#metallic

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:52 (one week ago) link


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