xps I wonder if there's a story that will come to light in future about TOTDY as Amazon's zero promotion stance seems odd seeing as how it reviewed well at Cannes and was like, 13 hours long and looked stunning so must have cost a fair whack. When it was released it didn't show up anywhere on the numerous categories they have on the home page and you had to manually search for it. Think the only trailer for it was self released by NWR too.
― groovypanda, Friday, 2 August 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link
you'd imagine it would work well as a bit of prestige for Amazon, too. I recognize that any show being touted as "groundbreaking" needs to prove it, and yet i think it really did some interesting shit. i'm not really a Refn apologist per se but this was the type of programming i would like to see more of on streaming, which should have more room for such experimentation.
I suspect the content was too much for the corporate suits. I mean the extreme anti-cop stuff and the sexual content, i can see some cowards in the board room insisting that they completely ignore its existence. I'm sure they were perfectly cool w/the violence.
― omar little, Friday, 2 August 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
The Chuck Schuldiner bio Death By Metal is on Amazon and it's excellent.
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 2 August 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
Punk documentary DOA is on Prime
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 3 August 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link
I wonder if there's a story that will come to light in future about TOTDY as Amazon's zero promotion stance seems odd seeing as how it reviewed well at Cannes and was like, 13 hours long and looked stunning so must have cost a fair whack.
this is Amazon we're talking about. for them, 50 million dollars or whatever is a drop in the ocean.
― Simon H., Saturday, 3 August 2019 04:42 (four years ago) link
They have a seven billion dollar production budget.
― Simon H., Saturday, 3 August 2019 04:45 (four years ago) link
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, August 2, 2019 3:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
goddammit i meant to watch this before i canceled prime
fuck amazon btw
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 August 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link
Read that as Chuck Schumer at first, really need to detoxify my politics brain
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 3 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
Just finished The Boys last night, really enjoyed it, read the Wikipedia summaries to see how far it deviated from the comic book, reaffirmed that I will never, ever, ever, EVER read a Garth Ennis book
I was just reading some of the plot threads and going "... but WHY"
The show at least attempted to use most of the hideous violence to support the story rather than to just be gross. Robin's death is legitimately shocking and horrifying but felt arbitrary due to the callousness of the world rather than the callousness of the storytelling, if that makes sense. The cast is also fantastic.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
The bit with them cutting up people with baby eye-lasers was hilarious. Very Lazer-Cats.
― DJI, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
― Simon H., 3. august 2019 06:42 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
If it cost this much it would be a lot more per hour than Refns latest films. He gets a lot out of a little. Which just underlines your point :)
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
i think episodes 5 & 8 were very much peak Refn. i *almost* want to call 5 a masterpiece. it really goes some places.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link
Just finished "The Boys," and again, just to get it out of the way, don't know anything about the comic or Garth Ennis or whatever. But I thought the show was excellent and full of good ideas and performances, wouldn't change a thing. Glad it's getting a second season. And honestly think (name excised just in case) is one of the scarier crazy TV villains I've seen in a while, someone regular folks and other superheroes might legit fear.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 August 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
If it cost this much it would be a lot more per hour than Refns latest films. He gets a lot out of a little.
Yeah, the budget for the whole thing was probably closer to 10-15 or less I suppose. Not too many actors and only a couple of recognizable ones, no huge setpieces, etc
― Simon H., Sunday, 11 August 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
I took the particular song playing during the final scene in The Boys as a bit of a spoiler of the "cliffhanger."
― Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Sunday, 11 August 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
I didn't even notice, but I loved most of the song choices.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 August 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
Oh, "Sleepwalk"? I dunno. I do love that they used iirc the Rachid Taha version of Rock the Casbah.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 August 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
i've been binging Patriot, and i can see why other people might find it annoying or shallow, but simultaneously i love it so much. i think it made me laugh harder than anything else i've watched this past year. i'm early in season 2 now and i can't tell if it's not quite as good or maybe i just overdid it with the pace i watched s1.
― na (NA), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
i finished the 2nd season a couple weeks back. it's hilarious but oh so weird. "cool"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPf_T7OYdo
― big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
"it IS cool"
― na (NA), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
basically i lose it anytime anyone on the show spouts a long stream of technical gibberish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwTGl9fqvP0
― na (NA), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
if that were the content of the whole show for like an hour, i would reup that amazon prime now
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
I was just reading an AVClub feature Jimmi Simpson couldn't stop talking about The Patriot (which he's on?).
9. Who is the most underrated person in your industry right now?JS: Underrated is a little too specific. I would say underexposed is Steven Conrad. He’s a writer-director-creator. He’s been writing for years and years very successfully—Pursuit Of Happyness was him—a bunch of cool movies. He did Walter Mitty. But he started creating television recently, and he created a show for Amazon called Patriot, which I’d literally never heard of until I read the script for Perpetual Grace, which is his show that I’m on now. So I read the script for Perpetual Grace—was floored. One of the best scripts I’ve ever read. And I couldn’t wait to meet the man, the men: Bruce Terris and Steve Conrad both wrote Perpetual Grace. They said to watch Patriot first. I’m like, “The Mel Gibson movie?” And then I find out, no, it’s a series on Amazon.And I watch it, and I’m just floored. It’s visionary. Not just the writing, the execution. It’s like your favorite directors of all time, like Kubrick, and Paul Thomas Anderson, and Michel Gondry, who have these innate abilities to communicate their style so completely, but somehow it feels effortless. You don’t feel like you’re being pushed to just absorb something. It feels like you’re watching a piece of art. And it connects to each person differently.And so you can’t ask a critic about him who’s not over the moon about Steve Conrad, calling him the next phase in television creators. But, in general, most folks—the public—don’t know about him as much as they should. Luckily, I’ve become very close friends with him, and creative partners to a degree, and so I’m going to keep doing whatever I can to keep showing people how amazing Steven Conrad is. He’s more amazing than I’ll ever be, so just being next to a genius like that is good for me. And I feel lucky. And I think other people should feel as lucky as I do, just by getting to see his stuff.
JS: Underrated is a little too specific. I would say underexposed is Steven Conrad. He’s a writer-director-creator. He’s been writing for years and years very successfully—Pursuit Of Happyness was him—a bunch of cool movies. He did Walter Mitty. But he started creating television recently, and he created a show for Amazon called Patriot, which I’d literally never heard of until I read the script for Perpetual Grace, which is his show that I’m on now. So I read the script for Perpetual Grace—was floored. One of the best scripts I’ve ever read. And I couldn’t wait to meet the man, the men: Bruce Terris and Steve Conrad both wrote Perpetual Grace. They said to watch Patriot first. I’m like, “The Mel Gibson movie?” And then I find out, no, it’s a series on Amazon.
And I watch it, and I’m just floored. It’s visionary. Not just the writing, the execution. It’s like your favorite directors of all time, like Kubrick, and Paul Thomas Anderson, and Michel Gondry, who have these innate abilities to communicate their style so completely, but somehow it feels effortless. You don’t feel like you’re being pushed to just absorb something. It feels like you’re watching a piece of art. And it connects to each person differently.
And so you can’t ask a critic about him who’s not over the moon about Steve Conrad, calling him the next phase in television creators. But, in general, most folks—the public—don’t know about him as much as they should. Luckily, I’ve become very close friends with him, and creative partners to a degree, and so I’m going to keep doing whatever I can to keep showing people how amazing Steven Conrad is. He’s more amazing than I’ll ever be, so just being next to a genius like that is good for me. And I feel lucky. And I think other people should feel as lucky as I do, just by getting to see his stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 August 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
Oh, wait, the show was just canceled?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 August 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
he's on a new show from the creator of Patriot
― na (NA), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
oh damn that sucks it got cancelled.
― big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 12 August 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
the technical talk in patriot is amazing. that scene where he has to bluff his way through that speech? and i didnt like season 2 as much as season 1, but still, it was good.
― just sayin, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link
yeah s2 of prime is a downer after s1. still pretty good but doesn't hit the highs of the first season. and they clearly were expecting to have another season based on how s2 ended.
― na (NA), Friday, 16 August 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
There's a new stand-up special by Jim Gaffigan that's pretty funny if you like him (I do). Somewhere in the middle he does 10 straight minutes of jokes about horses, and by the end of it he's actively ridiculing the audience for being annoyed by all the horse jokes.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
it's a soap but I really love Made In Heaven
― Dan S, Thursday, 22 August 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link
vegemitegrrl recs have *never* let me down. just finished red oaks and jfc that show. the writing in general overall, but the way Nash puts his part over was SO effing wonderful. and Paul Reiser as asshole with a heart was really well played
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link
isn’t it great!?
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
yay! another Red Oaks fan! wonderful from beginning to end and love how they let characters develop
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
Josh Meyers is a great example he could have just stayed a douche but he really loved her and was sweet in his way
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link
Red Oaks is one of my favorite shows ever. The character arcs are beautiful. And some really great endings to episodes - the series ending in particular.
― SA, Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
look at this unbelievable horseshit
New trailer for Jon Krasinski in Amazon’s ‘Jack Ryan’ series. Thoughts? pic.twitter.com/r5lvmHjLXW— Lights, Camera, Pod (@LightsCameraPod) September 5, 2019
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
Tom Clancy's ghost is smiling.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
Ugh. I actually liked the first season in a mindless sort of way, but that's bad news.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
"I can't go to Yemen - I'm an analyst!"
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
lolll thats really bad.
― big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
Jim Goes to YemenJim Goes to Venezuelathis show is suuuuuuuper dumb but I will prob still watch it
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 September 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link
Same.
― DJI, Friday, 6 September 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
nuclear... venezuela
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 September 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
jim has really been carrying the can for some vile politics over the last few years, huh
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 September 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
Jon Chudinski
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 6 September 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link
but man, Patriot! was bored working from home last week and watched the entire first season bc of this thread. loved it. sad to hear it was cancelled.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 6 September 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link
this show is suuuuuuuper dumb but I will prob still watch itotm.
― tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
Is anyone else watching Carnival Row? For a show about faeries, it is relentlessly gray and grim. I think Ornaldo Bloomps was badly miscast. The scene where the wizened store owner jerks him off was pretty good though. Is it worth watch the last few eps?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 9 September 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link
Saw one ep. Felt like Peaky Blinders with fary wings/steampunk, does it get beyond that?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link
Not really
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link