corniest selection on the ringer's "40 best songs of 1999"

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its fun to imitate though

there was a time when I was kinda curious what other songs by Len sounded like. not anymore, oh well

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

I checked out the album once, I think the rest of the tracks were mainly skate-punk or something like that.

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

ftr "Heartbreaker" fucking sucks

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

'steal my sunshine' dude employs a weird loud whisper affectation that is my most hated vocal performance ever. so voting for that.

― triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:21 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is soooooo otm, such an awful delivery that ruins an otherwise beautiful song.

anyone have an 'instrumental' version that just cuts his vox?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

it's the b-side on the "california realin' remix" single

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

What was that thread, from a year or so back, where we were obsessing over a sub-genre of "pop songs with breakbeats" from this era?

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

'scar tissue' makes me squirm. the lyrics are embarrassing, dave matthews-grade j/o. the narrative behind the album and rhcp's ascent to wise rock survivors makes me want to barf. rhcp is like the ultimate example of the kind of band that a certain person will be like 'this band is good and i will listen to them, most of my musical opinions are contrarian and turgid' about. their boring respectability now is just so goddamn mindless considering their songs have never not been like 80% repellent with lyrics that can't stay away from being gross and can't say anything interesting or appealing even in their "mature" phase. i mean feel free to point to counter-examples anyone, i will nod and appreciate your deep listening drive and generosity of spirit, but i'm not going to follow you there lol.

cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

feel like hating rhcp is way more acceptable than liking them

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

tbf most of my musical opinions are contrarian and turgid

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

xp haha i think that depends a lot on where a person lives

cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

Rhcp, green day, and foo fighters all feel like the last generation that worked at rock inc. before the company went outta business so they get remembered as members of The Greats simply by outliving everyone

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

ftr "Heartbreaker" fucking sucks

now we’re talking

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

The girl at the student house next to mine played Californication on repeat for the entire summer of 2000, and very loud too, I hate that fucking album more than I can say

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

very loud too

this is just the natural volume of californication

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

I've read quite a bit about it being the ultimate example of a victim of the loudness wars, doesn't make me hate it any less tbh.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

lol I mean if u think abt it californication is just a combination of words that means “fucking california” and listen buddy fuckin a whole state is not quiet work

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

Summer Girls is still worst tho

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

and it's in the rob Sheffield list in rs too. what the fuck is wrong with these people?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

ftr "Heartbreaker" fucking sucks

The remix with Missy Elliot tho, I'm fully on board with.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

i always thought it was a portmanteau of 'california' and 'vacation'

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

the lead singer of the band Everything looks a lot like rob schneider in this "Hooch" video

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

a buddy of mine had that Lou Bega CD, it was low key pretty hilarious

two of the songs are straight up rewrites of "Mambo No. 5" and there's a skit (??) that involves an awful Italian accent

kinda reminds me of Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs, where you have a cool novelty single and then have to write a full LP but you don't really have any ideas beyond that one thing. although I liked "Tricky Tricky" a lot

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

i always thought it was a portmanteau of 'california' and 'vacation'

― triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:31 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ur thinking of “californiacation” one letter makes a huge difference between a family trip to anaheim and a trip to make a family WITH anaheim

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

feel like rhcp's a better soundtrack to the buena park pirate dinner show

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

20. Lou Bega - Mambo No. 5

40. Ricky Martin - Livin La Vida Loca

The 'snoball is working as a painter & decorator and the boss's radio is tuned to Capital and all they seem to play are these two songs' duo.

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

'steal my sunshine' dude employs a weird loud whisper affectation that is my most hated vocal performance ever. so voting for that.
― triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:21 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Credit where it's due, Mike Edwards from Jesus Jones laid the foundation for this utterly indefensible style of 'singing'.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

Also: please stop evoking 'Hooch' why because being reminded of that song is making me literally die.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

(Countdown to me creating the 'Hooch' thread no one asked for.)

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

29. NSYNC - God Must've Spent A Little More Time On You

didn't even hesitate

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

xp hooch music video needs to be sectioned and polled

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link

i'm going with miami. still get embarrassed when that song comes on. nothing on this list is 'cornier' to me.

2nd and 3rd are summer girls and god mustve spent, respectively.

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

xpost Okay well I just watched that video and can confidently state that that combination of sound and image is the purest distillation of evil ever delivered into the world.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

literally cannot imagine any person in the last, say, dozen years going "hmm you know what I need to hear right now?! Miami by Will Smith!! Yes!!! What a tune!"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

you haven't met me

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

lol. alas :(

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

although it always makes me want to listen to and the beat goes on by the whispers which is far superior

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

Okay I haven’t actually listened to the lyrics to Summer Girls until now and holy shit lmao

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

billy shakespeare wrote a whole bunch of sonnets

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

someone needs to tell David Chang about this ringer list and remind him of the "chinese food makes me sick" line in Summer Girls

triple-washed (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link

https://s3-media2.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/K1f1EGRYBHbEbHO-cCUw-g/348s.jpg

this Mexican restaurant nearby is called “Maria Maria” and it has what looks like a Carlos-style PRS guitar on the logo

brimstead, Thursday, 1 August 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link

"Summer Girls" lyrics poll

There was a good man named Paul Revere.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 August 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link

god must have spent

dyl, Thursday, 1 August 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

i already mentioned this in another thread but neither "maria maria" nor "thong song" should be on any 1999 list

dyl, Thursday, 1 August 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link

i must say i unironically like-to-love most of these songs (including "summer girls") but it is quite an uninspired list nonetheless

not sure what the point is of some of those 'top ___ alternative songs of 199x' lists that have been popping up the last few years. i think i saw one last year that was literally almost all top 10s from that year's modern rock billboard charts, plus a few token tunes that they could retroactively call 'alternative' because i guess they were well-regarded in spin magazine or something (like "music sounds better with you")

dyl, Thursday, 1 August 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

I guess I need to listen to 'Summer Girls' again real quick because I always conflate it with 'Butterfly' for some unknown reason (prolly because they're both fucking dumb songs?) and I'm just now realizing for the eleventy-millionth time that it is not 'Butterfly'.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 August 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link

Ahhh, okay, right. LFO, the boy band whose members all look like they have a shaky notion of the terms of their restraining orders.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 August 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

“Miami” is indeed pretty damn corny, but (it cannot be said enough) it’s failproof thanks to its And The Beat Goes On foundation.

xps

breastcrawl, Thursday, 1 August 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link

Aside from the tracks that never really hit the UK (Mobb Deep / Juvenile / NSYNC etc), all of these got blasted at me multiple times a day for the entire year.

I had just left 6th Form and was working at an Italian restaurant just outside Cardiff - I had my first full wage, no bills to pay and was spending 8 hours a day, 6 days a week, stuck in a hot kitchen with a rotating cast of Welsh/Italian maniacs. The owner insisted on Radio 1 / Capital etc being on while customers were in the restaurant after one too many 'blasting , and as a result I have very strong Stockholm syndrome for all these tracks.

Even at the time Mambo No.5 seemed like a new pinnacle of pop cheddar so that gets my vote, with Cher a very close 2nd. At the time, Cardiff was under the grip of HHowever I feel that the rich seam of gorgonzola that was 1999 pop-trance is missing from this list completely:

"Protect Your Mind (For The Love Of A Princess)"

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link

xp Post fail! hit submit by mistake, should read as:

'...one too many 'blasting John Peel out of the kitchen door at unsuspecting customers' incident , and as a result..'

...

and 'At the time, Cardiff was under the grip of Hard House / Trance fever, however I feel that the rich seam of gorgonzola that was 1999 pop-trance is missing from this list completely:

DJ Sakin - Protect Your Mind (For The Love Of A Princess)
Phats & Small - Turn Around
ATB - 9 PM (Till I Come)
Planet Perfecto - Bullet In The Gun'

All of these hit the UK charts and were ripe cheese that would get my vote.

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Thursday, 1 August 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

Impossible to pick - this my core, heart music.

― flappy bird, Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:06 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

extremely otm. scanning this list is taking me back to the summer after 6th grade--childhood's end, really--only the good memories remain now. scar tissue alone, wow... say what? karaoke on mtv. that don't impress me much desert leopard print. billy shakespeare wrote a whole lotta sonnets. all that glitters is gold...

it's not right, but it's ok :(

J. Sam, Thursday, 1 August 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link


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