Burna Boy – OUTSIDE (2018)

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (142 of them)

Listening to the song w Future is making me think that perhaps the way Future uses his voice might have set an example for Burna and been instrumental in allowing him to slow down, open up and relax more and more over the past five years. I remember thinking that there was a slight constriction to his voice and subject matter (so many songs about how his enemies were trying to hold him back on that first album!) when I started listening to him around 2013-14 that... well... held him back a little. He was always great but he sings with so much more authority now than he used to do. There are obviously other things going on w regards to this point of a more local nature (plus, he got older), and also some very big differences between the two, but once I heard it I couldn't quite unhear it either.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

On the one hand, I can hear that, especially on the slower tracks and yes, in terms of subject matter at times. On the other, I think Future sounds out of place on his track--maybe I'll come around with a few more listens, but I think a Jamaican or UK artist would have fit in better (might also be influenced by it being Dre Skull and possibly Popcaan saying "woi-yo").

I'm reluctant to make this point because it's feels blinkered for a non-Nigerian to hear this, but the comparison that comes to my mind the most is Fela. Definitely not on every track, but when he gets throatier (not to mention political) it strikes me as the best possible kind of influence, not copying or paying homage, just tapping into how FK used his voice. For me, it's a noticeable part of the "authority" you mentioned.

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that was mostly what I was referring to w "obviously other things going on w regards to this point of a more local nature" but I would add Fela filtered through the crossover success of Ojuelegba with its Fela leanings but also decidedly un-Fela vocals, lol. It's like a lane opened up for Burna and he decided to go for it. At least that's how I hear it.

And idk, I think Future sounds good on that track.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

Both American rappers sound kind of incongruous to me, but ftr not "bad" just not as organic as the other features. That might be because they're at the end of the album though, and I haven't absorbed it yet--I could well come around.

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

I don’t think it’s controversial to say Burna’s been influenced by Fela - case in point:
https://medium.com/@chibueze/how-many-times-has-burna-boy-sampled-his-idol-and-grandfathers-friend-fela-let-s-count-2587a78c89e6

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah didn't mean to imply it was controversial, more just a "listens to Nigerian music once" kinda observation to make

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

And a review of the album by renowned Nigerian music writer Joey Akan for The FADER.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

xp

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

well, just a follow-up post really

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

...once, twice, three times a Fela...

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

wait, Skrillex produced Show & Tell? I swear I heard Dre Skull's producer tag on that. I cannot find a good source for credits for this though

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

Def stepping into something I don't know enough about to comment on, but while I get Gaddafi is a much more complicated figure than the Western view of him would suggest, including him in a list of "greatest leaders" with Mandela and Fela is kind of wild, especially if you're going to question Burna's politics on the back of "Dangote".

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

Lol, I didn't catch that! [DJ Drama] Proble-MATIC! [/DJ Drama]
That is definitely the sort of thing that an artist might get away with but a critic at the Fader shouldn't.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

You’re both right:

New one for Burna and Future 🚀🚀 https://t.co/rYe7WW1KEs

— Dre Skull (@dreskull) July 25, 2019

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

xxp

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

ah-ha and thank you

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

I’m having trouble finding/establishing the credits as well. “Destiny” was produced by DJDS apparently, of that Steel & Copper EP that dropped earlier this year.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

Both American rappers sound kind of incongruous to me, but ftr not "bad" just not as organic as the other features.

― rob, Wednesday, July 31, 2019 10:31 AM (two hours ago)

maybe worth noting that a big part of this is the...remarkable way YG pronounces bumbaclaat lmao

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

Yg and future are kind of boring guests imo.. love the Jeremih /serani though

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

Yeah that one is rad, Jorja is good, Kidjo is awesome, Marley is fine if you don't listen too hard to the lyrics. As mentioned I love the Blak Ryno thing, Zlatan is great though that's not surprising since that was originally released as Zlatan f. Burna Boy. I'd never heard of M.anifest before but that song is excellent.

The Hannah Giorgis piece in the atlantic mentioned that BB loves Koffee so hopefully their mutual admiration will result in something soon. The Fader piece said he's dating Stefflon Don, which is news to me and I'm a little surprised they haven't collaborated if that is the case.

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

I’m a bit surprised that Koffee collab didn’t happen in time for this album.

I love the track with M.anifest too (he’s a veteran in the GH rap scene, but I haven’t listened to him much).

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

Not a collab, but “Spiritual” is one of my faves of the new tracks.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

the song w/ future is dope mostly bcuz it might be burna's best rapping on the album -- "rollie that's a bustdown it's full of diamonds / it don't tell the time but it's 80 thousand" -- but future feels patched in. i can't even remember anything about YG's part. one of the reasons this album is good is bcuz the token crossover guests are tacked onto already good songs in ways that feel superfluous at worst but not really detracting in any real way

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

“Pull Up” has snuck up on me, it’s on autoplay in my head now.

Btw, it’s not even the first Kel P-produced “Pull Up” with Dilemma sample that Burna was involved in this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecc_6DLTrtI
Timaya ft. Burna Boy • Pull Up

breastcrawl, Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

yeah my wife plays Pull Up a lot

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

The album has entered the UK album charts at 16 this week, and the Dutch charts at 12. Some kind of milestone for sure.

breastcrawl, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

i’m in the middle of the street
how did i ever let you leave oh no
why did i drink this hennessey

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 August 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

Relatable imo

Tim F, Sunday, 4 August 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i guess he and jorja swapped features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQsZUVMwEls

still listening to african giant m/l daily

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

visuals for Pull Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMyrBds_9Zc

big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

This album rules. Serani on “Secret” makes me delirious

rob, Friday, 23 August 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

yeah that hook is undeniable

big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 23 August 2019 00:34 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7k0EBwu8g8

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

Another video, this time for “Gum Body” with Jorja Smitj:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN2J9i5B6Ac

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

best hook of the year

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Video for “Another Story” with M.anifest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXbWwR4rSmY

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

There's a sound in the 'Anybody" mix that sounds like a 'email sent' notification in outlook so whenever i listen i have a weird visceral reaction. still my fav song of the year tho

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 15 November 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

so good

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 November 2019 06:51 (four years ago) link

tiny desk up on YouTube now. so good

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

he's pretty disengaged from the crowd, not even a nod or smile of acknowledgement. he still delivered tho. that backup singer is a star.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

HOLY SHIT this is amazing

rob, Sunday, 1 December 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

time for a dedicated thread:
here comes the AFRICAN GIANT / Burna Boy (2019)

rob, Sunday, 1 December 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.