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I woulda thought sharing all the products (as we do) is a "masculine" attitude, in that the "man" is not supposed to care about this stuff.

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

Oh and the same shaving foam.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

the question marks were because I didn't know there was such a niche for men to have their own soap/shampoo/etc if they are living in a family situation and don't have special needs (like eczema or other sensitivities).

i am probably a super social groomer though.

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

When me and my two college buddies finally got a house together, second morning I noticed three bars of soap.

"Really?" I asked. "Are we going to have three rolls of toilet paper too?"

Whenever I'd get mad at one of them, I'd use his soap instead of my own.

pplains, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

any nice skincare stuff I have, I slather on my partner. I have to look at him every day; he needs to preserve his beauty.

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

hopefully he doesn't find my past internet search history for 'harvesting skin tissue"

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

Hair varies a fair amount from person to person. Baldness is also more common among men.

Same goes for armpits. When it's steaming hot out, you can certainly tell the difference between my wife and me, and I'm hardly a profuse perspirer to begin with.

YMMV, of course.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

I woulda thought sharing all the products (as we do) is a "masculine" attitude, in that the "man" is not supposed to care about this stuff.

― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:58 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

arah look if a man takes a shower in a forest, is he still wrong etc

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

it depends on whether or not a WWI battle was fought in the forest

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

I mean, yeah we share some things sometimes but I guess there are things that I’m just crazy about like e.g. SheaMoisture foaming face wash is my religion.

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

I’m really “sensitive” towards smells or whatever too

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

A lot of this new “masculine” stuff still just smells like locker rooms

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Wonder if there's any Garnier that comes in Pine Tar.

pplains, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

nah just the laborer tar they normally use

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

the shower in one of my college-era bathrooms had a distinctly floral smell due to one (male) roommate who preferred herbal essences shampoo

the market segmentation of MAN products has led to a weird reconfiguration of stores where there's now two separate aisles with deodorant, meaning retailers have to choose whether brands that were relatively gender-neutral (in their marketing) get stocked in two aisles or one. I'm guessing there'll be a reversal in marketing and organization in a few years

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

They should organize deodorant by scents and strength. I don't buy or regularly use deodorant so will use my spouse's if it's an extreme need. He tries to buy stuff that the smell doesn't repel me since I am at his armpit height anyway. But most deodorant smells like trash. It burns my eyes.

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

reminded, and not for the first time on this thread probably, of Paul Newman declaring in Blaze that his political opponent is "the kind of man that puts sticky stuff under his arms!"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

yeah the separate aisles thing is infuriating at my local target because the “men’s” shit is like 8 aisles away from everything else

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

Ok, I will admit that the JÅSÖN “men’s forest fresh” deodorant is absolutely amazing and smells more like fresh produce than manly wood or whatever

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

there's now two separate aisles with deodorant, meaning retailers have to choose whether brands that were relatively gender-neutral (in their marketing) get stocked in two aisles or one. I'm guessing there'll be a reversal in marketing and organization in a few years

― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, as I've mentioned somewhere (possibly itt), I've used the same deodorant for maybe 25 years and it has shifted back and forth between 'unisex' and 'ladies only' several times over that span. AFAICT it is currently unisex but I must travel to the ladies aisle to procure it and therefore must noisily devour a raw steak on the way to keep my testes from permanently retreating into my body cavity

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

which one is that?

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

i make my own homemade unisex deodorant and haven't shopped in either aisle for deodorant for years! hmu if you want some, i am making a batch soon! it was merch for my band that has since fizzled due to geographical challenges.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

xpost Degree something. Shower Fresh, maybe? Not sure of the name. Like obscenity, I know it when I see it.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

new, EXTREME Degree! you want to survive extreme temperatures becoming more common and more extreme, if that global warming bullshit hoax turns out to be true?? You better get EXTREME

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

OBSCENE DEGREE

kinder, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

Lava should jump into the antiperspirant game, whip up an 'extra coarse' formula for REAL MEN that leaves your pits a tattered ruin.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

"dook cannon" is the term we used as kids for someone at the pool who had diarrhea.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

doo doo shark

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

i make my own homemade unisex deodorant and haven't shopped in either aisle for deodorant for years! hmu if you want some, i am making a batch soon!

i have tried it! it has a nice smell!

sarahell, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

LL, I need to read some tantalizing copy about your unisex deodorant.

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

Suitable for any human armpit ISO odor control, [my band's name] deodorant is handcrafted from natural emollients, a custom blend of essential oils, and odor-absorbing agents to keep you smelling fresh under stress. Product is vegan, sold in travel-friendly small glass jars, and is refillable for locals.

That's about the best I can do to tantalize without listing ingredients. I have a little poster + a picture of the product with the poster but I would rather not post it bc tbh idk how to post a photo from my phone to ilx anymore

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

but will it get us laid? and can you mix in some bacon grease?

Yerac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link

Made with old fashioned bacon grease and human ingenuity, [my band’s name] deodorant will control yr stench & still blast your unique musk to attract the partner of your dreams.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link

why am i thinking of dicks coated in bacon grease. ... thanks.

sarahell, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

as in "thanks, brain!" not "thanks, LL"

sarahell, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

dumping that jar of stoveside rendered bacon fat over my areas

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 1 August 2019 03:57 (four years ago) link

I only use vegan bacon grease in my deodorant.

pplains, Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link

Then good news fellas!! This deodorant is for you! Road tested by men and women, it will tamp down your malodorousness and showcase what makes you special!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

Native brand deodorants are good for you and also smell good. My wife and I got a sampler box and it turns out I kinda like the floral ones, like hibiscus and cucumber or whatever, which has a civilizing effect on my manfunk. and my wife digs the more neutral scents ones, like cedar and lemon. the musky bro-ish flavors popped-collar scents are still unused.

Also, native manufacturer seasonal scents like blackberry sage that I would eat with a spoon if that weren’t weird.

rb (soda), Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

is cucumber considered floral?

sarahell, Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

I've been getting these goddamn Dr. Squatch ads on YouTube all week. I guess they aren't new, but it's the first time I've seen them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjEK7qQKRDY

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 2 August 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link

I actually use Stirling shaving soap. And yeah, some of their scents have names like Executive Man or have a picture of a lumberjack on them or whatever, but they have fruity scents too and at least one specifically targeted toward women. I don't really care about the scents, so I just use their Naked and Smooth unscented variety. It makes a great lather anyway.

https://www.stirlingsoap.com/collections/shave-soap

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 2 August 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

I don't know if it lacks magical shaving properties but I've just been using dr bronners when I trim up my neck

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 2 August 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

I was irritated by the beer in a plastic cup and where he pointed to the liver in that Dr Squatch video.

Yerac, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

Bronners has a purpose-made shaving soap now that rules. I like wood, herb, and citrus scent tones and my partner likes more flowery ones, but she usually steals my deo (with silly macho packing) anyway.

Three Word Username, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

i just go by what it says on the bronners soap label and i use it as shower-gel, mouthwash, shampoo, prophylactic, laundry detergent, shaving oil, abortifacient, floor cleaner, and douche. i also now ascribe to an idiosyncratic syncretic abrahamic religion

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 August 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

The only time I ever tried Bronners it reminded me of furniture polish or something.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 2 August 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

I had a bf in college that used it. ... I did wish he would use it more often (not the most hygienic guy) ... but I had no problem w/the effect or smell

sarahell, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

I like dr bronners. It's perfect for long hiking/camping trips to use for everything.

Yerac, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

I thought about this thread at the Drab Majesty show, where I saw a couple dudes wearing tactical kilts. I wanted to ask them about their EDC sporrans. Also a lady with Sisters of Mercy logo earrings, but that's off-topic.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 2 August 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link


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